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Message 878336 - Posted: 22 Mar 2009, 16:43:42 UTC

Is it a good choice I have made for BOINC/Seti@home I hope I have made a step forward to crunch seti and my next question is, can I make a backup from the data dir and put it in the same place on the new PC and make a new install of BOINC and what version is recommend for the quad core processor, I hope to hear some advice.

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Message 878347 - Posted: 22 Mar 2009, 16:56:45 UTC

I can truly recommend the latest series Phenom II.

Amd has done it right this time and that particular cpu has as good overclocking headroom as Intel but paired with Amd's Overdrive application and Amd 790FX chipset and beyond you truly can finetune your oc and maintaining very descent temperatures.

I'm running a old mb from 2007 paired with the latest Phenom II and it simply shines in an old platform taking the most out of it.
Only thing that you need is a bios upgrade for letting the bios detect the cpu but even if i had an old bios it still booted up and worked but it detected Amd unknown.

Good luck with your new machine.

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Message 878386 - Posted: 22 Mar 2009, 18:20:26 UTC - in response to Message 878336.  
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Is it a good choice I have made for BOINC/Seti@home I hope I have made a step forward to crunch seti


Depends on your personal benchmark and the size of your wallet. There is little doubt that a good spec i7 owns the Chrunching stakes - at the moment. So if pure power is the aim - has to be an i7.

However, the Phenom 2 comes into its own in terms of a very cost effective workhorse that is particularly effective in working with high end graphics cards. I thought long and hard, but tempted as I was by an i7 for my main machine, my normal day job did not need that level of umph. So I ended up getting a Phenom2.

I also have been very happy with it, a solid reliable beastie. I got the 940 so I could overclock - it does that with consumate ease, they put a lot of work into the interface, and its easy to clock and control nearly every aspect of it. As always its "horses for courses", but I am very happy with the end result.

Regarding BOINC transfer - I cracked that as a by product, in that I took a disk image prior to the new build, and just copied it over, that worked fine.

Certainly copying the whole Program Data/BOINC directory would catch all the data well. However if you are "just" transfering BOINC, I am not sure of the implications on the copied data directory, vis the Program Files/BOINC directory in terms of reinstall vis a vis the new registry on the new machine if its not a straight disk image.

As regards the app to use - have a look at Raistners Opt Apps, I use V7 because I also Crunch Climate Prediction on the quad, you'll have a different version if you only do SETI on cpu and gpu - he outlines clearly the correct use of each Version, just take the time to carefully read his notes, and alls well.

Half an answer to the BOINC transfer bit, wait for a more experienced guy on that - but good choice re processor from where I sit - Happy Crunching :)

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Message 878636 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 18:33:22 UTC
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I've seen several I7 940s that are signicantly slower than my PII 940. by significant check out this WU while its still around. please note the i7 in question does not appear to be using the Opt. ap. that being said the i7 can run 8 WU's at a time but their is little saved by doing so. So dollar for dollar you are going to get significant savings in your investment vs. the i7 and you get just about the same amount of work done.

I happen to agree the PII 940 is a fantastic CPU.


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Message 878676 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 20:38:37 UTC - in response to Message 878636.  

I've seen several I7 940s that are signicantly slower than my PII 940. by significant check out this WU while its still around. please note the i7 in question does not appear to be using the Opt. ap. that being said the i7 can run 8 WU's at a time but their is little saved by doing so. So dollar for dollar you are going to get significant savings in your investment vs. the i7 and you get just about the same amount of work done.

I happen to agree the PII 940 is a fantastic CPU.


So you're comparing an i7 non-optimized with a Phenom II optimised and concluding that running 8 at a time unoptimized is dollar for dollar, significantly less than a Phenom II?

I don't think that's a fair comparison. I'm sure the outcome would be quite different if you were to compare optimized vs. optimized and/or non-opt vs. non-opt.
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