Ngo (Mar 19 2009)

Message boards : Technical News : Ngo (Mar 19 2009)

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Matt Lebofsky Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 1 Mar 99 Posts: 1379 Credit: 74,079 RAC: 0	Message 877252 - Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 20:44:53 UTC
	Another work week is drawing to a close for me (I don't come in to the lab on Fridays - sometimes I work from home - sometimes not). The servers continue to hold on as long as we have the hardware/network resources available (when will they become unavailable? Hours? Days? Weeks? Months?). Yesterday I mostly worked on NTPCKr web programming - stuff for mostly internal use, but a "lite" version will be made public eventually. Why the "lite" version? It's not because we have something to hide - we just don't have the web server/database resources to handle the traffic. The hope is that the public version will at least have a regularly updated list (every hour?) of the current most interesting pixels on the sky, and you can click on them and see where they are in the sky, and get some sense of why they scored well (numbers of signals, they line up with stars/extrasolar planets, etc.). The internal version will have, among other things, additional clicks so we could pull a window of signals out of the database, plot them, and we can scan for RFI - you can see why this would add a big load on our servers. Nevertheless, we'll see what we can manage, and try to much as much information as possible available to everybody. Today I spent way too long dealing with confusing subversion/trac configuration. Annoying. I guess I should be getting back to radar blanking (sigh). - Matt ____________ -- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person -- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude
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Danny Sosebee Send message Joined: 10 Jun 02 Posts: 53 Credit: 1,022,592 RAC: 0	Message 877324 - Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 1:31:20 UTC - in response to Message 877252.
	I'm sure this is probably a stupid question but I'm going to ask it anyway. What is the name of each of your technical news threads related to? This one one is Ngo, and I've seen threads named British, Warner, Thousand Island, etc. I haven't found an obvious pattern and am curious as to what these thread names mean (if anything). ____________
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arkayn Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 3149 Credit: 41,368,657 RAC: 31,294	Message 877350 - Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 3:00:52 UTC - in response to Message 877324.
	Yosemite thread titles for this month? ____________
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uli Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 6 Feb 00 Posts: 8033 Credit: 3,823,625 RAC: 1,954	Message 877366 - Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 4:46:59 UTC
	Thank you to who ever gave us the options of checking the various stats in our accounts. Great job, I love it. ____________ Pluto will always be a planet to me. Cash Donation Specialist
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Aurora Borealis Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jan 01 Posts: 2975 Credit: 4,291,203 RAC: 1,577	Message 877394 - Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 7:54:42 UTC - in response to Message 877366.
	Thank you to who ever gave us the options of checking the various stats in our accounts. Great job, I love it. I'm fairly sure that is Dr. Anderson's work.
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10559 Credit: 5,269,299 RAC: 6,523	Message 877470 - Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 15:52:17 UTC
	Ouch on the science DB. Hope it comes back up clean. ____________
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Gundolf Jahn Send message Joined: 19 Sep 00 Posts: 3101 Credit: 344,452 RAC: 101	Message 877489 - Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 16:42:09 UTC - in response to Message 877252.
	(when will they become unavailable? Hours? Days? Weeks? Months?) Yep, it was hours, I think ;-) The cricket graphs went down about eight hours after your post (if I got the timezone calculation right :-). GruÃŸ, Gundolf ____________ Computer sind nicht alles im Leben. (Kleiner Scherz) SETI@home classic workunits 3,758 SETI@home classic CPU time 66,520 hours
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Matt Lebofsky Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 1 Mar 99 Posts: 1379 Credit: 74,079 RAC: 0	Message 877499 - Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 17:17:59 UTC - in response to Message 877324.
	I haven't found an obvious pattern and am curious as to what these thread names mean (if anything). At this point it changes month to month. Last month was names of lakes throughout the Sierras that I've actually hiked to at some point. This month is entirely different - and for those who are keen to guess I don't really make clear what it may be until the end of the month. As for the outage, thumper crashed last night - still unsure why (heavy informix load? bad root disk drive? both?). Eric was the only one at the lab and fought with it for a while. Then around midnight I caught wind of the situation and was able to log in remotely via the network kvm and reboot the thing to a state where the OS finally came up, but all the RAIDs had to resync. Jeff wakes up super early and saw all the messages from me/Eric and took it from there. I'm about to head to a gig in Carmel so it'll be all Jeff today (with help from Eric/Bob perhaps) coaching it back into shape. - Matt ____________ -- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person -- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude
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Terror Australis Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1443 Credit: 185,107,833 RAC: 117,000	Message 877648 - Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 0:28:04 UTC Last modified: 21 Mar 2009, 0:40:30 UTC
	Matt Lebofsky wrote ....I don't believe in jinxes so I don't mind saying as much.... And in his next post wrote ...when will they become unavailable? Hours? Days? Weeks? Months?... Jinxes you mightn't believe in. But as a scientist/technician/programmer you must have heard of Murphy. I'm afraid with these two statements (and something you possibly said at the lab) you have just invoked him (and on a Friday to boot). Most of us here don't believe in jinxes, (but we wouldn't say it out aloud) :-)) Brodo
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Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 12016 Credit: 19,624,970 RAC: 41,416	Message 877661 - Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 1:25:20 UTC - in response to Message 877648.
	Matt Lebofsky wrote ....I don't believe in jinxes so I don't mind saying as much.... And in his next post wrote ...when will they become unavailable? Hours? Days? Weeks? Months?... Jinxes you mightn't believe in. But as a scientist/technician/programmer you must have heard of Murphy. I'm afraid with these two statements (and something you possibly said at the lab) you have just invoked him (and on a Friday to boot). Most of us here don't believe in jinxes, (but we wouldn't say it out aloud) :-)) Brodo The two quotes of Matt's that you highlighted aren't even related. When he was talking about not knowing when "they" will become available, he was referring to hardware/network resources, not some sort of jinx in the system that was preventing something from happening. ____________
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Terror Australis Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1443 Credit: 185,107,833 RAC: 117,000	Message 877699 - Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 3:47:06 UTC - in response to Message 877661.
	Matt Lebofsky wrote ....I don't believe in jinxes so I don't mind saying as much.... And in his next post wrote ...when will they become unavailable? Hours? Days? Weeks? Months?... Jinxes you mightn't believe in. But as a scientist/technician/programmer you must have heard of Murphy. I'm afraid with these two statements (and something you possibly said at the lab) you have just invoked him (and on a Friday to boot). Most of us here don't believe in jinxes, (but we wouldn't say it out aloud) :-)) Brodo The two quotes of Matt's that you highlighted aren't even related. When he was talking about not knowing when "they" will become available, he was referring to hardware/network resources, not some sort of jinx in the system that was preventing something from happening. Oh Ozz. Where's your sense of humour ? They are related from the point of view that statements like that invoke Murphy (particularly two in two days) and no other reason. Maybe I should have quoted a bit more just make the humourous context a bit clearer. BTW, Matt wondered when resources would become "unavailable" in his post, not "available" as you wrote. Our mate Murphy showed him pretty quickly. Aye ? Peace Brother Brodo
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DJStarfox Send message Joined: 23 May 01 Posts: 1040 Credit: 486,408 RAC: 78	Message 877728 - Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 4:58:57 UTC - in response to Message 877499. Last modified: 21 Mar 2009, 4:59:10 UTC
	Maybe a dumb question... But can't you just copy the database from bambi back over to thumper? I've had to do that to recover with a warm standby using SQL Server; tricky but it worked. Or is thumper OK to just let the RAID recover on its own?
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Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 12016 Credit: 19,624,970 RAC: 41,416	Message 877743 - Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 5:25:02 UTC - in response to Message 877699.
	Oh Ozz. Where's your sense of humour ? Lost in Onyxia's Lair. ____________
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PAJTL_Computing Send message Joined: 24 Apr 00 Posts: 1 Credit: 56,374,398 RAC: 8,407	Message 877766 - Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 6:01:57 UTC - in response to Message 877324.
	I'm sure this is probably a stupid question but I'm going to ask it anyway. What is the name of each of your technical news threads related to? This one one is Ngo, and I've seen threads named British, Warner, Thousand Island, etc. I haven't found an obvious pattern and am curious as to what these thread names mean (if anything). ********* spoilers ************ I would hesitate a guess that they are programers names :) any others?
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7212 Credit: 3,703,516 RAC: 681	Message 877859 - Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 14:47:10 UTC - in response to Message 877699.
	Oh Ozz. Where's your sense of humour ? They are related ... [Strong dark stern voice of force] Never confuse cause and coincidence. [/Strong dark stern voice of force] Murphy was just an unfortunate American that got his wires crossed! The rest is just superstition. Keep searchin', Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 2888 Credit: 1,784,997 RAC: 205	Message 877911 - Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 17:24:35 UTC - in response to Message 877859.
	Murphy was just an unfortunate American that got his wires crossed! The rest is just superstition. Actually, Murphy was an American bureaucrat who very deliberately created and promoted his Law to convince people to be more thorough in planning and tracking major military development programs. ____________
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KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 1614 Credit: 4,510,961 RAC: 2,790	Message 877912 - Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 17:24:51 UTC - in response to Message 877766.
	I'm sure this is probably a stupid question but I'm going to ask it anyway. What is the name of each of your technical news threads related to? This one one is Ngo, and I've seen threads named British, Warner, Thousand Island, etc. I haven't found an obvious pattern and am curious as to what these thread names mean (if anything). ********* spoilers ************ I would hesitate a guess that they are programers names :) any others? British authors that Matt has read? ____________ .
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1mp0£173 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0	Message 878163 - Posted: 22 Mar 2009, 2:09:59 UTC - in response to Message 877699.
	Oh Ozz. Where's your sense of humour ? He left it in his coat pocket, which is hanging in the hall closet near the door. ____________
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KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 1614 Credit: 4,510,961 RAC: 2,790	Message 878547 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 10:51:38 UTC
	Alert - all the MB validators have gone off-line! ____________ .
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Dirk Villarreal Wittich Send message Joined: 25 Apr 00 Posts: 2098 Credit: 363,794 RAC: 72	Message 878549 - Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 11:07:19 UTC Last modified: 23 Mar 2009, 11:15:59 UTC
	Do you mean these ones? sah_validate1 bruno Not Running sah_validate2 bruno Not Running sah_validate3 bruno Not Running sah_validate4 bruno Not Running I sent a mail to the mod-list, just in case. ____________
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