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Message 866429 - Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 8:12:28 UTC

I know this might have been posted before, so i apologise for bringing this up again, but are there any developments for running SETI on ATI GPU's?



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Message 866434 - Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 8:21:02 UTC - in response to Message 866429.  

I know this might have been posted before, so i apologise for bringing this up again, but are there any developments for running SETI on ATI GPU's?



At the moment, there's not really much that can be done, since I believe CUDA is a proprietary system. There are talks of moving GPU crunching over to OpenCL, which attempts to do like Java and be basically platform, architecture, and OS independent.

Once the development moves into OpenCL, it theoretically shouldn't matter what hardware you have.
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Message 866497 - Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 14:59:55 UTC

NVidia threw people at helping program the CUDA version. Anything else SETI has to do on their own. It will be a while, probably a long while.


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Message 866499 - Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 15:04:07 UTC

As we don't actually have CUDA for Linux or OSX yet, ATi support will be at least a year away. Hell, AstroPulse doesn't even have an "official" OSX app yet.
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Message 866525 - Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 16:54:57 UTC

Don't forget: NVIDIA did the port to CUDA, and presumably, only for Windows.

I assume someone could take the Windows port and use it as a road-map to Linux.

I'm sure ATI support would turn up pretty fast if ATI wanted to do the work.
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Message 866531 - Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 17:07:19 UTC
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Unfortunately ATI did not see the potential of having a dedicated fanbase from SETI despite that for raw GPU power at comparable price point, ATI actually have the advantage, e.g. HD4850 is rated at 1000 GFLOPS while the 9800GTX+ is only 705 GFLOPs. Perhaps they are not in the shape to even spare 1 or 2 headcounts to write the SETI app for their GPU.

Perhaps we should write an open letter to AMD if they could spare an intern or a few for a year to do this.

Or we just wait for Intel to hopefully write one for Larabee.
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Message 866576 - Posted: 17 Feb 2009, 23:36:04 UTC

I don't know why everyone thinks larabee will be any good. Intel have never made a decent graphics chip, things are not about to change. Unless they have stolen something from ATi or nVidia. You don't go from being one of the worst to one of the best over night. We may see an improvement, but just like all the other marketing rubbish Intel post on here it will be nothing more than a improvement on the rubbish that they already produce.
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Message 869806 - Posted: 26 Feb 2009, 22:34:18 UTC

According to the BOINC Roadmap, BOINC 6.8 will go sport ATI GPU support. I have had a chat with Rom on what they'll be doing, Brook+ or OpenCL. He said they will determine that as soon as they get their ATI cards.
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Message 869861 - Posted: 27 Feb 2009, 0:24:00 UTC

Ooh, I can't wait to be able to crunch on my on-board Radeon X1250
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Message 870810 - Posted: 1 Mar 2009, 5:52:33 UTC

It's a shame for ATI. I've just ordered a geforce 285 for the CUDA AP crunching. I'll do a fair bit of gaming also (just needed the excuse to buy one). My first choice would have been the ATI.
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Message 870814 - Posted: 1 Mar 2009, 5:58:22 UTC

In the meantime if you want to put your ATI card to use you can crunch Milkyway@home with it. You might even get 12 credits for 1 second of CPU time.
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Message 870825 - Posted: 1 Mar 2009, 6:20:44 UTC - in response to Message 866576.  

I don't know why everyone thinks larabee will be any good. Intel have never made a decent graphics chip, things are not about to change. Unless they have stolen something from ATi or nVidia.

May not be much good for graphics, but it's crunching potential is phenomial.
And the fact that they've had input from some ex Nvidia (i think it was) deveolpment personell means it might even be half decent as a video card.
And don't forget how bad the P4 was, now look at the Core 2 Duo series. Then look at how crippled their P4 based Xeons were in more than 2P configurations, compare that with the Multi Processor i7 based Xeons. It's amazing what they can do when they get around to it.
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Message 871094 - Posted: 1 Mar 2009, 19:38:31 UTC - in response to Message 869806.  

According to the BOINC Roadmap, BOINC 6.8 will go sport ATI GPU support. I have had a chat with Rom on what they'll be doing, Brook+ or OpenCL. He said they will determine that as soon as they get their ATI cards.


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Message 871236 - Posted: 2 Mar 2009, 6:00:48 UTC

Milestone: 6.6
No date set
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Closed tickets: 23 Active tickets: 5
The new features for this release are:

New client-side CPU & GPU scheduler
New work-fetch policy for better management of CPU and GPU work queues
Improved BOINC Manager network connectivity
Consolidation of the grid/accessible advanced views.
NOTE: No new bugs should be assigned to this milestone

Milestone: 6.8
No date set
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Closed tickets: 0 Active tickets: 6
The new features for this release are:

ATI GPU support
New BOINC OpenGL based screen saver.
NOTE: The turn around for this release is expected to be pretty quick

Milestone: 6.10
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The new features for this release are:

WIN: Streamline installer for mass deployments using either Installshield or WiX
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Message 871237 - Posted: 2 Mar 2009, 6:10:35 UTC - in response to Message 866531.  

Unfortunately ATI did not see the potential of having a dedicated fanbase from SETI despite that for raw GPU power at comparable price point, ATI actually have the advantage, e.g. HD4850 is rated at 1000 GFLOPS while the 9800GTX+ is only 705 GFLOPs. Perhaps they are not in the shape to even spare 1 or 2 headcounts to write the SETI app for their GPU.

Perhaps we should write an open letter to AMD if they could spare an intern or a few for a year to do this.

Or we just wait for Intel to hopefully write one for Larabee.


I'll sign that letter! My son recently invested in an i7 rig and equiped it with dual GPU ATI card. Blazing fast processing on the intensive graphical games. I've jokingly told him I'll sneak SETI on there, if only for the 8 cores of processing (he and I actually did install SETI for a short while for some burn-in testing and you can see in my profile an i7 ran briefly).

Put SETI on the ATI card and *I'LL* buy a new rig. Until then, these old crates with discount nVidia cards in them are problematic enough.

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Message 871243 - Posted: 2 Mar 2009, 6:30:26 UTC - in response to Message 871241.  

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Message 871250 - Posted: 2 Mar 2009, 7:53:13 UTC - in response to Message 871237.  

.. if only for the 8 cores of processing (he and I actually did install SETI for a short while for some burn-in testing and you can see in my profile an i7 ran briefly).


....4 cores - 8 threads....getting ahead of myself there.....
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Message 871324 - Posted: 2 Mar 2009, 14:01:31 UTC
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I see for 6.10 the plan is to streamline for mass installs.. would it be possible for an MSI installer so Active Directory can deploy it? I know, this isn't the right place to ask, but I saw it and we're talking about future releases of BOINC..

by the way.. 600th post!
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Message 871343 - Posted: 2 Mar 2009, 15:15:02 UTC - in response to Message 871324.  

I see for 6.10 the plan is to streamline for mass installs.. would it be possible for an MSI installer so Active Directory can deploy it? I know, this isn't the right place to ask, but I saw it and we're talking about future releases of BOINC..

by the way.. 600th post!


The installer is already an .MSI packed into an executable. What you are looking for is documented here.
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Message 871351 - Posted: 2 Mar 2009, 15:41:09 UTC - in response to Message 871343.  

I see for 6.10 the plan is to streamline for mass installs.. would it be possible for an MSI installer so Active Directory can deploy it? I know, this isn't the right place to ask, but I saw it and we're talking about future releases of BOINC..

by the way.. 600th post!


The installer is already an .MSI packed into an executable. What you are looking for is documented here.

Nifty. Kind of a waste of the 600th post. :p
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