*CUDA and BSOD? *DirectX requiered?

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Message 863097 - Posted: 7 Feb 2009, 11:07:57 UTC


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=51600&nowrap=true#862384
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... though using the Nvidia control panel causes BSOD ...
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Hmm..

I finished now my new 'rig-project'.. ;-)

Using NCP will cause BSOD..?

I installed only the GPU-driver..

Then I looked in -> msconfig/systemstart

And found:

NvCpl - RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
nwiz - nwiz.exe /install
RunDLL32 - RUNDLL32.exe NvMCTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
ctfmon - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe


So it would be well to disable NvCpl ?
This is the NCP ?

What are the others?
Maybe something I could disable also?


SETI@home CUDA need DirectX ?
WinXP Home SP2 have DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
So maybe I need to update to DirectX 10? (supplied on the GPU-driver-CD)


Thanks a lot!

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Message 863107 - Posted: 7 Feb 2009, 11:57:35 UTC - in response to Message 863097.  

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Paul Buck may get a BSOD, but do you? If you do, what does the BSOD say? Without that information it could be anything, even the changes in the weather. ;-)
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Message 863115 - Posted: 7 Feb 2009, 12:16:10 UTC - in response to Message 863107.  

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Paul Buck may get a BSOD, but do you? If you do, what does the BSOD say? Without that information it could be anything, even the changes in the weather. ;-)


Ahh.. O.K. .. I thought it's a known error.. ;-)

And maybe some 'how2do' manuals out there.. :-)


O.K., will let everything in the 'systemstart'..
But disabled (manually) the icon in the taskbar [click 'exit'].. then it doesn't came back after reboot..


What mean the other entries in the systemstart?

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Message 863117 - Posted: 7 Feb 2009, 12:23:27 UTC - in response to Message 863097.  


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=51600&nowrap=true#862384
...
... though using the Nvidia control panel causes BSOD ...
...


Hmm..

I finished now my new 'rig-project'.. ;-)

Using NCP will cause BSOD..?

I installed only the GPU-driver..

Then I looked in -> msconfig/systemstart

And found:

NvCpl - RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
nwiz - nwiz.exe /install
RunDLL32 - RUNDLL32.exe NvMCTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
ctfmon - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe


So it would be well to disable NvCpl ?
This is the NCP ?

What are the others?
Maybe something I could disable also?


SETI@home CUDA need DirectX ?
WinXP Home SP2 have DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
So maybe I need to update to DirectX 10? (supplied on the GPU-driver-CD)


Thanks a lot!


Hi,

From what I understand

NvCpl is a NVIDIA utility for the display control panel, which allows the configuration of extra display options.

nwiz is the nVidia nView Desktop Manager Configuration Wizard.

NvMCTray loads your video display profile, also sticks an icon in your system tray and gives you quick access to display settings.

Ctfmon.exe activates the Alternative User Input Text Input Processor (TIP) and the Microsoft Office Language Bar.
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Message 863121 - Posted: 7 Feb 2009, 12:38:08 UTC - in response to Message 863115.  

Ahh.. O.K. .. I thought it's a known error.. ;-)

There are a couple of hundred BSODs available in Windows, so it's easier to know what it says.

And maybe some 'how2do' manuals out there.. :-)

Like the ones in my FAQs (see signature)?

O.K., will let everything in the 'systemstart'..
But disabled (manually) the icon in the taskbar [click 'exit'].. then it doesn't came back after reboot..

What mean the other entries in the systemstart?

Um, I am not sure what you mean here. What systemstart? You mean the registry?
BOINC Manager starts from the registry, as does boinctray.exe

BOINC Manager is the GUI. Normally it will start the client when that one isn't running. When you have BOINC installed as a service, the service will start before Windows log on. After log on, BM will open up (through the registry entry). If the service isn't running (you stopped it before, or set it to Manual start up type), BM will start the service.

You can stop BM from running by going BM->Advanced view->advanced->Options->Take the check off of "Run Manager at login?" (or similar wording).

Boinctray.exe is the idle detection application which checks if you are using the keyboard and mouse, for when you use the "Only do work when idle" options.
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Message 863599 - Posted: 8 Feb 2009, 20:48:59 UTC
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@ Byron S Goodgame

Thanks a lot!

So maybe I could delete 'NvMCTray'? (I done this, to now no probs)
Or all nVIDIA entries?

This is not a gaming - only a crunching-rig! :-)

For example if I disable/enable PhysX in the nVIDIA settings, I don't need anymore the 'NvMCTray' entry, or?
The settings are saved somewhere?
And profiles I don't need, or?


@ Ageless

Thank you also!


I don't know if the US/UK- WinVersion are the same like the german..

If I click on [Start] and then [Execute] and insert msconfig and then [RETURN] or 'OK' then I can manage the systemstart.

There on the right I could enable/disable the progs.



@ all

What's with DirectX ?
I need the newest version for best CUDA crunching performance?

I need PhysX enabled for better CUDA crunching performance?
Or it's better to disable it?


What's with the settings:

nVIDIA- Tray:
performance and quality settings/ performance ->

high power
power
quality
high quality

activated is stock 'quality'

This settings will change the CUDA performance?


Thanks a lot!
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Message 863605 - Posted: 8 Feb 2009, 21:07:57 UTC - in response to Message 863599.  

If I click on [Start] and then [Execute] and insert msconfig and then [RETURN] or 'OK' then I can manage the systemstart.

There on the right I could enable/disable the progs.

Oh, those things. That depends from machine to machine what is starting up.

What's with DirectX ?
I need the newest version for best CUDA crunching performance?

No, DirectX 9.0c is the only requirement for BOINC. CUDA doesn't have a requirement on its own, but I would assume that the nVidia drivers do, so go by their requirements for the DirectX version.

I need PhysX enabled for better CUDA crunching performance?
Or it's better to disable it?

Physx is not a requirement, you can disable it. It's only used in games.

This settings will change the CUDA performance?

No, they're also only for gaming experience, as far as I can find. Seti CUDA will not look at those settings.
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Message 863700 - Posted: 9 Feb 2009, 2:05:44 UTC - in response to Message 863599.  
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@ Byron S Goodgame

Thanks a lot!

So maybe I could delete 'NvMCTray'? (I done this, to now no probs)
Or all nVIDIA entries?

This is not a gaming - only a crunching-rig! :-)

For example if I disable/enable PhysX in the nVIDIA settings, I don't need anymore the 'NvMCTray' entry, or?
The settings are saved somewhere?
And profiles I don't need, or?


Hi

AFAIK you can uncheck the entries for nwiz and NvMCTray without it effecting CUDA, (though I haven't done this since running CUDA). NvCpl I believe will involve editing the registry to keep it from running, but might be best to leave running.
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