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Message 985476 - Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 3:43:11 UTC - in response to Message 985468.  
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Well folks, today the Cern scientists near Geneva were successful when they collided beams of protons at the highest energy levels ever seen. No black holes, no time jumping. Just Boom!

The LHC@home home page is dated April, while we still are in March. Some time travel must have happened.
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Message 987058 - Posted: 6 Apr 2010, 12:28:54 UTC

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Good running at the LHC over Easter weekend, including a period of 21 hours at 3.5 TeV per beam.

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Message 987156 - Posted: 6 Apr 2010, 23:58:45 UTC - in response to Message 987058.  

Well good news. But, what is the design maximum and what have we achieved at Fermi-lab and Batavia.

I would have thought that the US accelerators had enough energy to have announced the Higgs Boson discovery by now--or are we waiting for a joint announcement from Cern --may take a while.
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Message 987198 - Posted: 7 Apr 2010, 3:46:04 UTC

I read in Astronomy that the Fermi Gamma-ray telescope may discover Higgs before the LHC. I started following CERN on Twitter to keep up.
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Message 1002405 - Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 5:30:59 UTC - in response to Message 987198.  

It starts and stops. Get with it CERN!

http://english.ruvr.ru/2010/06/07/9234386.html
Jun 7, 2010 13:55 Moscow Time


Large Hadron Collider restarted
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The world’s most powerful particle accelerator has been restarted after a six-day pause, media reports say.

More protons were injected into the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) on Monday following last year’s technical shutdown, scientists said. Right now, the proton beams are successfully circulating in the main ring of the LHC in what experts hope will shed more light on the nature of the Universe.
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Message 1019999 - Posted: 27 Jul 2010, 6:48:21 UTC - in response to Message 1002405.  

Bombshell!

Scientists inch towards finding 'God particle'
By DANIEL FLYNN, REUTERS

PARIS - Scientists working with particle accelerators in Europe and the United States said on Monday they may be closing in on the elusive Higgs Boson, the “God particle“ believed crucial to forming the cosmos after the Big Bang.

Researchers from the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) project near Geneva said in just three months of experiments they had already detected all the particles at the heart of our current understanding of physics, the Standard Model.

Rolf Heuer, director-general of the European Centre for Nuclear Research (CERN) which runs the LHC, told the International Conference on High Energy Physics in Paris experiments were progressing faster than expected and entering a stage in which “new physics””would emerge.

This could include long-awaited proof of the existence of the Higgs Boson and the detection of dark matter, believed to make up about a quarter of the universe alongside an observable 5 percent and 70 percent consisting of invisible dark energy.

“This is a dark universe and I hope the LHC ... will shed the first light into this dark universe,” Heuer told the international conference. “This will take time.”

The LHC, a 27-km (17-mile) looped tunnel which creates mini-Big Bangs by smashing together particles, is currently colliding particles at around half its maximum energy level — 7 million million electron volts, or 7 TeV.

It plans to increase this to 14 TeV from 2013, coming closer to the conditions in which the universe was created 13.7 billion years ago.

“Whether the LHC will have discoveries by 2012, I don’t know. I hope it might happen, but if it doesn’t happen then it might be three or four years later,” Heuer said.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Science/2010/07/26/14832856.html
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Message 1020010 - Posted: 27 Jul 2010, 7:37:36 UTC
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There are two projects for more powerful colliders, the International Linear Collider and the Compact Linear Collider, each costing a lot of money. Those Big Science projects, alongside with the ITER nuclear fusion experiment, are menacing to starve many minor science projects. I am against Big Science. Two Italian physicists, Angelo Baracca and Silvio Bergia, have written a book, "La spirale delle alte energie", unfortunately written in physicists' argot (I am or was a theoretical physicist), which illustrates the law of diminishing returns for particle accelerators. A Nobel Prize winner, Emilio Segre', whom I personally knew since I published a book of his while working at Mondadori Publishing House, had expressed similar thoughts in an article on the magazine "Endeavour" about 1972.
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Message 1020301 - Posted: 28 Jul 2010, 10:06:28 UTC - in response to Message 1019999.  
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An unfortunate name for the Higgs Boson--Fermilab must have already found it as well by now.
Are they also expecting to find WIMPS . I'll bet on them finding the Higgs but not on the Dark Matter.

Time will tell. Probably will be a request for a higher power collider to find the WIMPS. Perhaps we should ask what are we actually doing and why. it seems that if we smashed two bowling balls together we would get a huge variety of particles that someone could devise a structure to explain their masses. Epicyles were used to explain the motion of the planets and a Fourier style collection of sine waves can decompose a square wave. So if we are really just getting Hadron "chips or sparks" are we actually discovering the further underlying structure of matter? Or are we just taking another look at the fact that energy and matter are the same thing in different manifestations. Matter to energy yes indeed but maybe energy to matter as well. We might create what Nature hasn't .

Just some late night musing sparked by Tullio's comments. Going to the moon again and trying to get to Mars will probably produce more benefit to humankind from the allied science and material advances
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Message 1020372 - Posted: 28 Jul 2010, 14:07:12 UTC - in response to Message 1020301.  

Physics is not the only science, contrarily to what Lord Rutherford said once, that only nuclear physics exists, the rest is butterflies collecting. Murray Gell-Man, the father of SU(3) symmetry, is now studying the origin of languages. There are sciences which cost much less than LHC and ITER.
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Message 1022368 - Posted: 4 Aug 2010, 2:02:04 UTC - in response to Message 1020372.  


Peter Higgs, appeared on an episode of the program Morgan Freeman Goes Through the Wormhole



http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/07/21/morgan-freeman-goes-wormhole/

It was close to that episode Cern, came out with the statement The article posted on July 7, 2009. I really don't think they are any closer than anyone else.

Here is another link:

http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/Science/Higgs-en.html

Missing Higgs

A major breakthrough in particle physics came in the 1970s when physicists realized that there are very close ties between two of the four fundamental forces – namely, the weak force and the electromagnetic force. The two forces can be described within the same theory, which forms the basis of the Standard Model. This ‘unification’ implies that electricity, magnetism, light and some types of radioactivity are all manifestations of a single underlying force called, unsurprisingly, the electroweak force. But in order for this unification to work mathematically, it requires that the force-carrying particles have no mass. We know from experiments that this is not true, so physicists Peter Higgs, Robert Brout and François Englert came up with a solution to solve this conundrum.
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Message 1028832 - Posted: 27 Aug 2010, 6:01:52 UTC - in response to Message 1022368.  

Feeling the pinch.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Science/2010/08/25/15139451.html
'Big Bang' research centre faces cost cuts
By Robert Evans, Reuters

GENEVA – Europe’s particle research centre CERN, engaged in a high-profile programme investigating the origins of the cosmos, faces a sharp cut in its budget over the next 5 years, officials said on Wednesday.
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Message 1028844 - Posted: 27 Aug 2010, 7:52:58 UTC

The European Community has chosen to spend most of its research money (1.25 billion dollars) on the ITER nuclear fusion experiment which is both late and over budget. This is a political decision, not a scientific one. All other European research projects are going to suffer. The decision was reached on June 25."Europe cannot afford not to go forward with the project", said Achilleas Mitsos, past Director General for Research at the European Commission and now negotiator for the ITER project.
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Message 1043456 - Posted: 21 Oct 2010, 4:30:45 UTC - in response to Message 1028844.  

The universe just got a jolt. We may be a process of a simple reaction.


http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=11926151
CERN Scientists Eye Parallel Universe Breakthrough
By Robert Evans
October 20, 2010

GENEVA (Reuters) - Physicists probing the origins of the cosmos hope that next year they will turn up the first proofs of the existence of concepts long dear to science-fiction writers such as hidden worlds and extra dimensions.

And as their Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN near Geneva moves into high gear, they are talking increasingly of the "New Physics" on the horizon that could totally change current views of the universe and how it works.

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Message 1043545 - Posted: 22 Oct 2010, 13:03:30 UTC

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Message 1049498 - Posted: 19 Nov 2010, 6:45:21 UTC - in response to Message 1043545.  

http://www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech/large-hadron-collider-traps-antimatter/story-fn5fsgyc-1225956290864
Large Hadron Collider traps antimatter

ANTIMATTER - the opposite of conventional matter - has been captured and studied for the first time.

Scientists believe that just after the Big Bang, almost 14 billion years ago, the universe contained equal amounts of matter and antimatter.

Antimatter is usually instantly annihilated when it comes into contact with ordinary matter.

Now researchers at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN have used strong magnetic fields to trap a total of 38 anti-hydrogen atoms for a record 0.166 of a second.
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Message 1049500 - Posted: 19 Nov 2010, 6:51:56 UTC - in response to Message 1049498.  

http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/emerging-tech/2010/11/17/cern-hopes-for-proof-of-extra-dimensions-in-2011-40090892/
Cern hopes for proof of extra dimensions in 2011
By Ben Woods, ZDNet UK, 17 November, 2010 15:07

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Scientists at the Cern laboratory in Switzerland have said that the Atlas research project may prove the existence of extra dimensions and the Higgs boson as early as next year.

The Atlas experiment, which analyses the results of proton collisions inside the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), is designed to observe phenomena involving massive particles, such as the Higgs boson, extra dimensions, and particles that could make up 'dark matter' — all of which have previously been unobservable with lower-power particle accelerators.



Extra dimensions is hard to comprehend, still trying this dimension for now.
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Message 1049904 - Posted: 20 Nov 2010, 11:32:31 UTC - in response to Message 1049500.  

It seems to me that the Higgs Boson should have already been seen at Fermi Lab.

What is the mechanism or explanation of how, at CERN, by which we will know if there is another dimension ??

Can anyone explain why it will take so long. Are they at full beam strength--what's the hold-up? Are there problems with the detectors?

I am awaiting confirmation of Daddio's Darkion theory of Hyper-Symmetry ?

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Message 1049906 - Posted: 20 Nov 2010, 11:51:03 UTC - in response to Message 1049904.  

It seems to me that the Higgs Boson should have already been seen at Fermi Lab.

What is the mechanism or explanation of how, at CERN, by which we will know if there is another dimension ??

Can anyone explain why it will take so long. Are they at full beam strength--what's the hold-up? Are there problems with the detectors?

I am awaiting confirmation of Daddio's Darkion theory of Hyper-Symmetry ?

Cheers

I think they are working with lead ions and then going on Christmas vacation. Proton-proton scattering will begin again next year. They are at half power now.
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Message 1049950 - Posted: 20 Nov 2010, 15:23:25 UTC - in response to Message 1049906.  

Tullio,

Thank You, - Grazie tanto

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Message 1050056 - Posted: 20 Nov 2010, 22:48:46 UTC - in response to Message 1049904.  

...Can anyone explain why it will take so long...

They are looking for a statistically significant number of what are phenomenally rare examples.

For example, Fermi Lab have been give a grant extension of a few years to try to build up more examples for them to get enough data. The LHC can achieve a much higher rate of collisions and so the race is on as to who gets enough data first!


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