Hole in the Rock (Jan 22 2009)

Message boards : Technical News : Hole in the Rock (Jan 22 2009)

Author	Message
Matt Lebofsky Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 1 Mar 99 Posts: 1375 Credit: 74,079 RAC: 0	Message 856590 - Posted: 22 Jan 2009, 23:34:01 UTC
	We continue to have problems mounting our raw data drives (which we fill down at Arecibo and drain up here). The symptoms are random, the error messages are random, and where these messages actually appear is random. Jeff and I are pretty much giving up trying to figure it out. We'll most likely remove as many moving parts from the whole system and deal with continuing issues as they arise. Not sure who/what to blame. Linux? SATA? USB? The enclosures? The cables? The drives themselves? I actually got the software radar blanker working. Whether or not the output it generates is worth anything remains to be seen, but at first glance it looks pretty good. The proof is when I run this on a whole file and make some workunits, and then see if these workunits explode. - Matt ____________ -- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person -- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude
	ID: 856590 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7458 Credit: 39,641,945 RAC: 33,268	Message 856595 - Posted: 22 Jan 2009, 23:48:24 UTC
	Ye gods. Exploding workunits? Does my warranty cover that? <grin>
	ID: 856595 ·

1mp0£173 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0	Message 856601 - Posted: 23 Jan 2009, 0:13:23 UTC - in response to Message 856595. Last modified: 23 Jan 2009, 0:13:40 UTC
	Ye gods. Exploding workunits? Does my warranty cover that? <grin> Who cares about the warranty, who is going to clean up the mess? :-) ____________
	ID: 856601 ·

Geek@Play Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2414 Credit: 79,016,596 RAC: 0	Message 856619 - Posted: 23 Jan 2009, 0:44:16 UTC
	Matt........your bringing back some wonderful memories. Been there, done that. ____________ Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....
	ID: 856619 ·

Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 15969 Credit: 624,961 RAC: 248	Message 856620 - Posted: 23 Jan 2009, 0:44:26 UTC
	. . . Thanks as usual for the Updates Matt ps - you might look into sometjhing i sent Eric a short bit ago - interesting ____________ BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . .
	ID: 856620 ·

WinterKnight Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6801 Credit: 17,101,170 RAC: 28,161	Message 856680 - Posted: 23 Jan 2009, 2:52:50 UTC
	So now after the exploding downloads, Got much more work than asked for, we are going to get exploding tasks. Time to dig out the protective clothing etc.
	ID: 856680 ·

KWSN THE Holy Hand Grenade! Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 1594 Credit: 4,423,183 RAC: 4,349	Message 856753 - Posted: 23 Jan 2009, 10:07:12 UTC Last modified: 23 Jan 2009, 10:16:09 UTC
	at about 0200 PST, I started getting: 1/23/2009 1:56:17 AM\|SETI@home\|Message from server: No work sent 1/23/2009 1:56:17 AM\|SETI@home\|Message from server: CPU app exists for SETI@home Enhanced but no CPU work requested 1/23/2009 1:56:17 AM\|SETI@home\|Message from server: (your BOINC client is old - please install current version) followed by: 1/23/2009 1:58:50 AM\|SETI@home\|Message from server: No work sent 1/23/2009 1:58:50 AM\|SETI@home\|Message from server: CPU app exists for SETI@home Enhanced but no CPU work requested 1/23/2009 1:58:50 AM\|SETI@home\|Message from server: No work available for the applications you have selected. Please check your settings on the web site. 1/23/2009 1:58:50 AM\|SETI@home\|Message from server: (your BOINC client is old - please install current version) This just after sucessfully getting a block of 20 WU's for the same computer (which is running version 5.10.45...) Did something change on Berkeley's end, 'cause nothing changed on mine! [add]Each time I got these messages, I also got "communication deffered" for 24 hrs, BTW [/add] ____________ .
	ID: 856753 ·

Pooh Bear 27 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jul 03 Posts: 3217 Credit: 1,000,061 RAC: 0	Message 856973 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009, 0:20:51 UTC
	Matt, Thanks for all the updates. What happened to your taking Thursday off, and being in on Friday? That didn't last long. ____________
	ID: 856973 ·

Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 11987 Credit: 18,001,608 RAC: 56,281	Message 857079 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009, 5:55:28 UTC - in response to Message 856590.
	Not sure who/what to blame. Linux? SATA? USB? The enclosures? The cables? The drives themselves? Either blame Canada or blame Misfit. ____________
	ID: 857079 ·

Zebra3 Send message Joined: 22 Oct 01 Posts: 186 Credit: 13,657,908 RAC: 0	Message 857118 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009, 8:52:03 UTC - in response to Message 857079.
	Not sure who/what to blame. Linux? SATA? USB? The enclosures? The cables? The drives themselves? Either blame Canada or blame Misfit. Its always Canada's fault...why can't it be Switzerland's fault this time...lol ____________ http://www.novascotia.com
	ID: 857118 ·

Greg Send message Joined: 12 Oct 07 Posts: 6 Credit: 1,028,090 RAC: 0	Message 857141 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009, 10:44:27 UTC
	Well you know the golden rule of flakey hardware - Its always the last thing you test! If all else fails, check that the hamster's wheel hasn't shifted off axis.
	ID: 857141 ·

Lois Petrolito Send message Joined: 9 Nov 03 Posts: 10 Credit: 68,170 RAC: 0	Message 857185 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009, 15:15:21 UTC
	Maybe that's why I haven't gotten any new work in about a week. Or, it could be BOINC itself doing it. I'm on multiple projects, and when I get work units from one, I get nothing from anyone else unless I suspend that particular project. ____________
	ID: 857185 ·

Fluffy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Nov 00 Posts: 44 Credit: 200,235 RAC: 0	Message 857202 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009, 15:58:39 UTC - in response to Message 857118.
	Not sure who/what to blame. Linux? SATA? USB? The enclosures? The cables? The drives themselves? Either blame Canada or blame Misfit. Its always Canada's fault...why can't it be Switzerland's fault this time...lol There are no Gremlins in Switzerland. AMC couldn't afford to send any there. ____________ HAY! Watch this! LLLLEEEEEERRRROOOOOYYYYY! ...yikes...
	ID: 857202 ·

clive G1FYE Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 4 Nov 04 Posts: 1284 Credit: 14,941,395 RAC: 2,739	Message 857265 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009, 18:46:19 UTC
	since about 15:00 hrs utc friday the gigabit net graphs show that the connection is running at maximum rate. Ime getting connection timeouts, everything seems to be working, its just got an lot of work to do.
	ID: 857265 ·

Neil Blaikie Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 142 Credit: 5,566,899 RAC: 1	Message 857267 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009, 18:49:46 UTC
	Seems like something is going on as haven't been able to upload anything since very early this morning. ____________
	ID: 857267 ·

Kaylie Send message Joined: 26 Jul 08 Posts: 39 Credit: 332,100 RAC: 0	Message 857304 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009, 20:07:19 UTC - in response to Message 857267.
	Is it possible that work is being split into such small parts that there are so many of them they are jamming up transfers? It seems all the MB tasks I have been getting are smaller than usual.
	ID: 857304 ·

Bendarr Send message Joined: 27 Dec 08 Posts: 1 Credit: 11,624 RAC: 0	Message 857312 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009, 20:13:06 UTC - in response to Message 857267. Last modified: 24 Jan 2009, 20:13:46 UTC
	I am likewise having upload problems. I had roughly 4 units and managed to upload maybe 2 units and I've got 2 more but I keep getting deferred as well.
	ID: 857312 ·

Adrian Foster Send message Joined: 26 Jul 06 Posts: 3 Credit: 88,090 RAC: 2	Message 857319 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009, 20:19:31 UTC
	My post may or may not be related to this thread. Don't know. All I know is that for one whole week now my computer has suspended all work on BOINC. All computation and all upload. I have an astropulse ready to upload and for some reason the computer has suspended it. I cannot unsuspend it. Oh, and I promise you - I have done nothing in that week, barely used the computer infact. Why would it be doing this ? I cannot unsuspend it, upload the completed file or get new ones ?????
	ID: 857319 ·

Krisk Send message Joined: 18 Jul 99 Posts: 9 Credit: 1,845,297 RAC: 0	Message 857333 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009, 20:43:25 UTC
	Haven't been able to upload since last night 1/23/09, 22.30 PST. ____________
	ID: 857333 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21680 Credit: 2,443,662 RAC: 0	Message 857339 - Posted: 24 Jan 2009, 21:16:54 UTC - in response to Message 857079.
	Not sure who/what to blame. Linux? SATA? USB? The enclosures? The cables? The drives themselves? Either blame Canada or blame Misfit. I was going to quote that line and say how disappointed I was. I am no longer disappointed. ____________
	ID: 857339 ·

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