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Alexander Send message Joined: 14 Nov 08 Posts: 2 Credit: 32,551 RAC: 0 |
Hi everyone, My PC is CUDA ready (BOINC 6.4.5, 8800 GTS 640MB; Message "CUDA Devices found" in the BOINC Message log) but I dont get any CUDA Apps. It is running for 2 weeks now in that state and no CUDA Apps so far. Is there anything special I have to set, so that my client receives CUDA Apps ? I identify CUDA Apps by the term "CUDA" at the end of the application name. So for example "SETI@Home Enhanced 6.03 CUDA". At least, I guess it will look like that, since I got none so far. Thanks for any advice, Alexander |
perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 |
Go to your account page, under computing preferences and under processor usage make sure you have number of processors at three. This will allow you CPUs to run APs and the GPU to run MB. PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
Rick A. Sponholz Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 43 Credit: 23,179,807 RAC: 0 |
I've got 5 computers CUDA capable (4 Quads, 1 Buce), and originally proccessed CUDA work units, but haven't gotten any new ones in about a week. http://www.boincsynergy.com/images/stats/comb-5132.jpg |
KGK49 Send message Joined: 23 Jan 02 Posts: 12 Credit: 10,119,556 RAC: 1 |
I was receiving CUDA units but have not seen any in 10-14 days (as of 1/19/2009). As far as setting your processor number to one more than you have - I have an unresolved issue....Under preferences I have set my processor usage on my quad to 5 CPUs - its been that way for weeks and if I go into my preferences now it shows 5 - but when I look up my info under (my) results it only shows 4 CPUs. When I was getting cuda(s) it never ran 5 units at a time so I'm convinced the Seti system believes I only have 4 CPUs - not the 5 it shows under (preferences) Processor Usage. CUDA is still in its infancy and issues like these will be addressed in time or I'll figure out what I'm not doing to tell the system that 4 CPUs + 1 GPU = 5. |
perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 |
My C2D is showing 2 CPUs and lists the 8500GT as a coprocessor. I am running two AP WUs and one cuda right now. Are you showing a message like this in your boinc messenger message tab? 1/19/2009 1:45:00 PM|SETI@home|Starting task 08no08ab.2619.80199.11.8.70_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 607 If it shows 603 then it is not cuda. Also are you just running 4 tasks or 5 at a time? Oops, sorry I didn't see that you were only running 4. Have you tried running Raistmer's version 6 optimizing app? If you are just running the V8 it won't recognize CUDA. PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
Rob Send message Joined: 4 Sep 07 Posts: 57 Credit: 2,444,762 RAC: 0 |
Rather than starting a new thread may I pose a similar question to the present one? I am also running a C2D along with an 8800GTS 640 MB vid card which is recognized in BOINC manager messages. I have enabled the use of the GPU in preferences, set processor usage as 3 and have an 8 day cache of WU's but have yet to process a single WU with the GPU. The latest GPU driver has been loaded and there is obviously more than enough work for the GPU to share with the CPU. I'm not running any optimized apps mainly because this feeble old brain can't figure out how to. What am I doing wrong?? |
Maik Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 163 Credit: 9,208,555 RAC: 0 |
You really want cuda wu's? first read this hardcore solution option a) you are shure that your card isnt to weak - check prefs: enable cuda, disable astropulse - if your ap-cache is empty and still get no cuda wu's -> go option b) option b) you dont know what your card is / you know your card is to weak - check prefs: enable cuda, disable astropulse - install nvidia drivers 181.20 or above - get Raistmers v6 and install it -> done btw. my card is to weak (9600GT) and so i was following option 2: 20.01.2009 04:03:45||[error] Proposed work request 417636.484116 bigger than max 349059.490560 20.01.2009 04:03:48|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 349059 seconds of work, reporting 12 completed tasks 20.01.2009 04:03:53|SETI@home|Scheduler request completed: got 20 new tasks 20.01.2009 04:03:55|SETI@home|Started download of 09dc08ad.31804.16432.7.8.49 20.01.2009 04:03:55|SETI@home|Started download of 02no08aa.18937.326480.16.8.74 20.01.2009 04:04:00|SETI@home|Finished download of 09dc08ad.31804.16432.7.8.49 20.01.2009 04:04:00|SETI@home|Finished download of 02no08aa.18937.326480.16.8.74 20.01.2009 04:04:00|SETI@home|Started download of 09dc08ad.31804.16432.7.8.74 20.01.2009 04:04:00|SETI@home|Started download of 02no08ab.31772.20113.15.8.30 20.01.2009 04:04:05|SETI@home|Finished download of 09dc08ad.31804.16432.7.8.74 20.01.2009 04:04:05|SETI@home|Finished download of 02no08ab.31772.20113.15.8.30 20.01.2009 04:04:05|SETI@home|Started download of 09dc08ac.31739.20113.13.8.24 20.01.2009 04:04:05|SETI@home|Started download of 09dc08ac.31739.20113.13.8.76 20.01.2009 04:04:09|SETI@home|Finished download of 09dc08ac.31739.20113.13.8.24 20.01.2009 04:04:09|SETI@home|Finished download of 09dc08ac.31739.20113.13.8.76 20.01.2009 04:04:09|SETI@home|Started download of 09dc08ad.31804.16432.7.8.57 20.01.2009 04:04:09|SETI@home|Started download of 09dc08ad.31804.16432.7.8.76 20.01.2009 04:04:09|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 275739 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks 20.01.2009 04:04:14|SETI@home|Finished download of 09dc08ad.31804.16432.7.8.57 20.01.2009 04:04:14|SETI@home|Finished download of 09dc08ad.31804.16432.7.8.76 20.01.2009 04:04:14|SETI@home|Started download of 09dc08ad.31804.16432.7.8.116 20.01.2009 04:04:14|SETI@home|Started download of 09dc08ad.31804.16432.7.8.71 20.01.2009 04:04:15|SETI@home|Scheduler request completed: got 20 new tasks 20.01.2009 04:04:18|SETI@home|Finished download of 09dc08ad.31804.16432.7.8.116 20.01.2009 04:04:18|SETI@home|Finished download of 09dc08ad.31804.16432.7.8.71 20.01.2009 04:04:18|SETI@home|Started download of 09dc08ac.31739.20113.13.8.26 |
Rick A. Sponholz Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 43 Credit: 23,179,807 RAC: 0 |
Where do I get "Raistmers v6"? |
Byron S Goodgame Send message Joined: 16 Jan 06 Posts: 1145 Credit: 3,936,993 RAC: 0 |
Where do I get "Raistmers v6"? From this message in the Modified SETI MB CUDA + opt AP package for full GPU utilization thread. Edit: Or the direct link at Lunatics There's also a link posted that someone else uploaded here if there are problems with the Lunatics link. |
Alexander Send message Joined: 14 Nov 08 Posts: 2 Credit: 32,551 RAC: 0 |
Thank you for the feedback! Well, I made sure that "GPU Usage" is checked. It was checked already at the time when I installed BOINC 6.4.5; so about 2 weeks ago. I thought the CUDA app is already "common practice", thats why I was starting this thread. There is at least the official word on this website, that CUDA apps are ready to use. But if there are still settings to do like "set your processor number manually to one more than you really have", and I have to install things, the official instruction is not talking about, then I leave my hands from that ;-) You know, this is still a valuable daily used machine for me and I dont want any sudden crashes or so :) So good luck with integrating CUDA ! Alexander |
computerguy09 Send message Joined: 3 Aug 99 Posts: 80 Credit: 9,570,364 RAC: 3 |
Thank you for the feedback! 8800 GTS 320/640 is the "old" G80 GPU, which typically won't run with CUDA v2 apps. It certainly isn't supported on GPUgrid, and probably isn't on SETI. While CUDA drivers will load on this card, any recently built CUDA app most likely will run very slowly or not at all... Mark |
Cosmic_Ocean Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 |
8800 GTS 320/640 is the "old" G80 GPU, which typically won't run with CUDA v2 apps. It certainly isn't supported on GPUgrid, and probably isn't on SETI. Friend of mine has an 8800GTS 320 that he got at least 6 months ago and I verified with Everest that it really is a G92. Just pointing out that we don't actually have a solid/approximate date of when they switched from G80 to G92. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
Rob Send message Joined: 4 Sep 07 Posts: 57 Credit: 2,444,762 RAC: 0 |
Well that seems to explain why I'm not processing any wu's with my present vid card...according to GPU-Z my 8800GTS is the G80 flavour. Oh well. In any case thanks for the answer. Cheers from the great white north. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
This is as good as any thread to ask this in, where did the assumption come from that Seti CUDA needs 1.1 capability, that it won't run on 1.0? |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
This is as good as any thread to ask this in, where did the assumption come from that Seti CUDA needs 1.1 capability, that it won't run on 1.0? Detective work amongst the SETI crunching community, mostly at Beta and Lunatics. Some people got work, other people didn't. By a process of elimination, passing by the 255MB limit on the way, it seemed that a representative sample of the "didn't get" community had 1.0 capability, and a representative sample of the "get" community had 1.1 capability. However, that is an observational statement, not a formal technical prerequisite statement. It could be that the SETI server is set to reject requests from capability 1.0 cards, much as it was originally set to reject requests from cards reporting 255MB RAM. I believe that there have been reports of capability 1.0 cards, with an app_info.xml to disguise that fact, successfully receiving and returning work. Maybe asking NVidia directly would be the most reliable way of getting an answer? |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Maybe asking NVidia directly would be the most reliable way of getting an answer? Ah sorry, I didn't say that, but Nvidia was the one asking it. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Maybe asking NVidia directly would be the most reliable way of getting an answer? Tell them to try it and see! If anyone has access to the full range of CUDA-capable cards, it should be them..... Suggestion: someone fire up a 1.0 card (I think the 320MB 8800GTS is often cited), and attach it to Beta where the downloads work. See what you get. Then, install a package with an app_info.xml (I did some for v6.07, to get round the speed limit - that should be good enough, you're not actually going to run a VLAR with it), and fish for work again. If it works, and you can crunch a shorty, then the 1.0 limit can be removed. The question then becomes, why did the SETI server installers think that 1.0 should be excluded, if they didn't get the idea from NVidia? |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
It is a restriction on the Seti server, apparently. But it's being looked into now that this can change. Will keep you apprised. |
Mike Davis Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 240 Credit: 5,402,361 RAC: 0 |
01/21/09 19:32:14||Fetching configuration file from http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/get_project_config.php 01/21/09 19:32:38|SETI@home Beta Test|Master file download succeeded 01/21/09 19:32:43|SETI@home Beta Test|Sending scheduler request: Project initialization. 01/21/09 19:32:43|SETI@home Beta Test|CPU work request: 1.00 seconds, 0 instances 01/21/09 19:32:43|SETI@home Beta Test|CUDA work request: 181440.00 seconds, 1 instances 01/21/09 19:32:58|SETI@home Beta Test|Scheduler request completed: got 10 new tasks 01/21/09 19:33:00|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe 01/21/09 19:33:00|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of setigraphics_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe 01/21/09 19:33:04|SETI@home Beta Test|Finished download of setigraphics_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe 01/21/09 19:33:04|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll 01/21/09 19:33:07|SETI@home Beta Test|Finished download of setiathome_6.03_windows_intelx86.exe 01/21/09 19:33:07|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of setiathome-6.03_AUTHORS 01/21/09 19:33:09|SETI@home Beta Test|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 01/21/09 19:33:09|SETI@home Beta Test|CPU work request: 0.00 seconds, 0 instances 01/21/09 19:33:09|SETI@home Beta Test|CUDA work request: 181440.00 seconds, 1 instances 01/21/09 19:33:10|SETI@home Beta Test|Finished download of setiathome-6.03_AUTHORS 01/21/09 19:33:10|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of setiathome-6.03_COPYING 01/21/09 19:33:12|SETI@home Beta Test|Finished download of libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll 01/21/09 19:33:12|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of setiathome-6.03_COPYRIGHT 01/21/09 19:33:16|SETI@home Beta Test|Finished download of setiathome-6.03_COPYING 01/21/09 19:33:16|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of setiathome-6.03_README 01/21/09 19:33:18|SETI@home Beta Test|Finished download of setiathome-6.03_COPYRIGHT 01/21/09 19:33:18|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of seti_603.jpg 01/21/09 19:33:20|SETI@home Beta Test|Finished download of setiathome-6.03_README 01/21/09 19:33:20|SETI@home Beta Test|Finished download of seti_603.jpg 01/21/09 19:33:20|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of 03no08aa.12605.270551.9.11.150 01/21/09 19:33:20|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of 03no08aa.12605.270551.9.11.165 01/21/09 19:33:21|SETI@home Beta Test|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 01/21/09 19:33:21|SETI@home Beta Test|Message from server: No work sent 01/21/09 19:33:21|SETI@home Beta Test|Message from server: No work is available for AstroPulse 01/21/09 19:33:21|SETI@home Beta Test|Message from server: Can't use CUDA app for SETI@home Enhanced: Your CUDA device has the wrong software version 01/21/09 19:33:21|SETI@home Beta Test|Message from server: CPU app exists for SETI@home Enhanced but no CPU work requested 01/21/09 19:33:25|SETI@home Beta Test|Finished download of 03no08aa.12605.270551.9.11.165 01/21/09 19:33:25|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of 03no08aa.12605.270551.9.11.151 01/21/09 19:33:28|SETI@home Beta Test|Finished download of 03no08aa.12605.270551.9.11.150 01/21/09 19:33:28|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of 03no08aa.12605.270551.9.11.152 01/21/09 19:33:31|SETI@home Beta Test|Finished download of 03no08aa.12605.270551.9.11.151 01/21/09 19:33:31|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of 03no08aa.12605.270551.9.11.161 01/21/09 19:33:35|SETI@home Beta Test|Finished download of 03no08aa.12605.270551.9.11.152 01/21/09 19:33:35|SETI@home Beta Test|Finished download of 03no08aa.12605.270551.9.11.161 01/21/09 19:33:35|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of 03no08aa.12605.270551.9.11.153 01/21/09 19:33:35|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of 03no08aa.12605.270551.9.11.167 With an 8800GTX 768mb. Just incase they needed something more |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
With an 8800GTX 768mb. Just incase they needed something more Ye gods. Pick the bones out of that lot. I think you've got every server glitch in the book. Got 10 tasks for a one-second work request? check. Got a CUDA card, but no app/work for it? check. Request 2.1 days' work at project initialisation, when you have no idea of the device speed? check. The only other things it would be useful to know for a full house would be the version of the BOINC client you're using, and the version number of the NVidia CUDA driver. |
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