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Message 32699 - Posted: 4 Oct 2004, 20:30:23 UTC

Ready to send 1,219,810

Thats what the server status says but strangly none of my puters recieve any.
Three projects I am in and none can provide me with work.


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Message 32712 - Posted: 4 Oct 2004, 21:02:52 UTC

I noticed that since I havent updated my BOIC client the message from the server was: "No work from the project"
Which ver do you use?


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Message 32716 - Posted: 4 Oct 2004, 21:04:26 UTC

Yes, if you haven't already, you need to manually update BOINC to 4.09.
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Message 32724 - Posted: 4 Oct 2004, 21:32:39 UTC

They should realy tell us these updates to the CC it would help alot!


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Message 32727 - Posted: 4 Oct 2004, 22:19:14 UTC

Here Seti@H signup page
My name is Pascal and this message has no meaning, but still has my approval...

It is 10 oclock, do you know what your WUWUs are doing tonight...

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Message 32730 - Posted: 4 Oct 2004, 22:28:16 UTC

When it says "no WUs available" it also says "update your BOINC client to v4.09". That's BOINC telling you to update your client to 4.09... how much more specific do you want to get?


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Message 32734 - Posted: 4 Oct 2004, 22:40:35 UTC
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Actually I had the same problem, and NOT because of not updating.

You need to:
1. detach from the project
2. log out of the "my account" zone in the seti-boinc site
3. go to "I forgot my account number/password" and insert your email
4. Attach to project using the new info you get in the mail.


For some obscure reason some of the accounts that were created really early on became unusable as are... and doing what I described will "activate" it...
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Message 32777 - Posted: 5 Oct 2004, 0:07:54 UTC

This problem doesnt care about which Version I use.

I am having this with V4.09 abd V4.05.
And I sometimes recieve a Workunit.
On the other hand this V4.09 gives trouble with my P4 HT processor.
As soon as there is only one WU left the CC uses 50% processing power amd locks up. and thats the case atm
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Message 32800 - Posted: 5 Oct 2004, 1:13:26 UTC - in response to Message 32734.  

> For some obscure reason some of the accounts that were created really early on
> became unusable as are... and doing what I described will "activate" it...

Shortly after going public they changed the project URL. Perhaps did you not change the URL?

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Message 32823 - Posted: 5 Oct 2004, 2:31:56 UTC - in response to Message 32699.  

> Ready to send 1,219,810
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> Thats what the server status says but strangly none of my puters recieve any.
> Three projects I am in and none can provide me with work.
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>I had simillar problems on HT machines. How big is your cache? I had mine at 40 days worth at one time. Change this first to what you can realisticaly can crunch. Upgrade to current version. After benchmarks are run Click on project and reset project. On some of my computers I got work right away on others I had to leave attached to project and within 30 minutes I recieved Work Units. Hope this helps.
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Message 32897 - Posted: 5 Oct 2004, 9:57:04 UTC - in response to Message 32800.  

> > For some obscure reason some of the accounts that were created really
> early on
> > became unusable as are... and doing what I described will "activate"
> it...
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> Shortly after going public they changed the project URL. Perhaps did you not
> change the URL?
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> <a> href="http://www.boinc.dk/index.php?page=user_statistics&project=sah&userid=91863">
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I am not a total NooB to DC. Of course I had the new URL. Seti isn't just my main DC project and my cache is set to 2 days. Anyway this morning I fetched work for ....hmmm 0.5 days. I dont think its a problem on my side as 4 host couldn't recieve any work. And all were happyly crunching till yesterday.


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Message 32995 - Posted: 5 Oct 2004, 19:10:29 UTC

well if you ARE receiving any work at all, then it is working.. keep in mind that you need almost all the servers to be up to get work, and most of the time they ARENT.
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Message 32999 - Posted: 5 Oct 2004, 19:24:40 UTC - in response to Message 32777.  

> This problem doesnt care about which Version I use.
>
> I am having this with V4.09 abd V4.05.
> And I sometimes recieve a Workunit.
> On the other hand this V4.09 gives trouble with my P4 HT processor.
> As soon as there is only one WU left the CC uses 50% processing power amd
> locks up. and thats the case atm
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>

I had a similar problem with an older IBM/Cyrix CPU (the processor, not the name on the case). The problem is only intermittent, however, so I've not had a chance to diagnose it.
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Message 33110 - Posted: 6 Oct 2004, 2:40:45 UTC - in response to Message 32897.  

> I am not a total NooB to DC. Of course I had the new URL.

Just asking...

You said old accounts can stop functioning. First I've heard of it, and I've been running since beta.

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Message 33287 - Posted: 6 Oct 2004, 17:01:56 UTC - in response to Message 32995.  

> well if you ARE receiving any work at all, then it is working.. keep in mind
> that you need almost all the servers to be up to get work, and most of the
> time they ARENT.
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I think they underestimated the amount of utilization and growth curve, which itself is further complicated as existing users upgrade to faster machines.

There hasn't been a week where they've been able to keep one side of the system up that the other doesn't collapse for some reason.

I imagine an alien or two somewhere is having a good laugh... :o)
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Message 33378 - Posted: 6 Oct 2004, 21:47:45 UTC

I honestly don't even think this method of searching aliens is wise... It would be better off to use it to map the universe (something astropulse is taking steps towards), I mean we are searching for a radio transmission, in certain bandwidths and the like which are similar to how we use radio to encode data (which is reasonable since it is rather effecient), but how many alients civilizations would use it? Either they are at about our tech level. Or they will be using something else.
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Message 33468 - Posted: 7 Oct 2004, 2:29:25 UTC - in response to Message 33378.  

> I honestly don't even think this method of searching aliens is wise... It
> would be better off to use it to map the universe (something astropulse is
> taking steps towards), I mean we are searching for a radio transmission, in
> certain bandwidths and the like which are similar to how we use radio to
> encode data (which is reasonable since it is rather effecient), but how many
> alients civilizations would use it? Either they are at about our tech level.
> Or they will be using something else.
>

Then go crunch for Climate Prediction, Mr. Poopy Pants.

If the super-brilliant nerds at SETI think ET is going to phone home over AM radio, then by god I'll be crunching AM radio waves. I mean, seriously... if you're going to doubt the project at such a basic level, why are you here? ePenis contest?




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Message 33630 - Posted: 7 Oct 2004, 14:06:45 UTC - in response to Message 33378.  

> I honestly don't even think this method of searching aliens is wise... It
> would be better off to use it to map the universe (something astropulse is
> taking steps towards), I mean we are searching for a radio transmission, in
> certain bandwidths and the like which are similar to how we use radio to
> encode data (which is reasonable since it is rather effecient), but how many
> alients civilizations would use it? Either they are at about our tech level.
> Or they will be using something else.

Well, when all you have is a hammer ... EVERYTHING looks like a nail ... :)

Seriously though, the spot in the specrum that is being looked at is the "best bet" spot. So, we look there first this is a "long shot" project. But you have to start somewhere, and this was the spot picked.

Later, when we have a real good amout of computer processing power, maybe we will be able to look elsewhere in the spectrum. We are making a bunch of assumptions about the capabilities of the targets, but again, you have to start somewhere and this is as likely a spot as any other.

As the project has matured, we are looking to be getting data from the radiotelescopes in the southern hemisphere, and also (I think) a broader spectrum from Arecibo ... THis was discussed on the SETI@Home Classic site ... but we need to get BOINC up and gooing (close, we are so close) so that we can have multiple science applications running against the data.
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Message 33706 - Posted: 7 Oct 2004, 17:47:27 UTC
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thats exactly it Paul D.... It might not be the most likely way, but it is a possible way, so why not try it. This is why I joined seti in the first place.
Its better then doing nothing and we gotta start somewhere.

I dont expect us to FIND anything, I expect us to crunch enough data to rule out this method of searching so that we can move on to the next one and hopefully it would be more reasonable, and also I wish to support the concept of distributed computing.

I mean hi, we are getting astropulse now arent we? that would never have happened if there wasnt a strong support for seti.
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Message 33729 - Posted: 7 Oct 2004, 18:36:32 UTC - in response to Message 33706.  

In my opinion many seem to forget one thing, this whole research is/was done for Seti (so to speak).
I really don't believe this (as a scientist) there are a lot of more direct interests (far more realistic and useful but less spectacular for the masses!).

Some idea's off the shelf :

* thanks to Seti we will have neater starcharts especially in the frequencies round the "waterhole".
* in some cases we will have more data concerning the movement of this radiosources up till now in the northern hemispere (altough our window aperture is bounded by the movement of the earth and the Arecibo telescope on a relatively fixed position.
* distribution of hydrogen will be better known.
* some signals from natural/curious origin will have to be further investigated and can in themselves perhaps give birth to new knowledge.
* IF we find something else it's the icing on the pie...

Greetings from Belgium ;-))
(planning to start up another bunch crunching boxes...)



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