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Al Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482 |
Been scanning thru many of the threads, saw some references that the new BOINC isn't compatible with the enhanced version. I was running 5.x before, with AK_v8_win_SSE3 on my P4 3.4, and saw some posts about the Vid co pro when I checked the home page to see why my WU's weren't being accepted (turns out project is down) I thought Hey, I have a 9800GT, why not do a little more science, since it's just sitting there idling for most of the day. After reading some posts here, it seems they don't play well with each other at this point, and that there will be an enhanced app coming, any idea of the status of it? (days, weeks, months?) Thanks much, and keep up the great work! |
Fred W Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 2524 Credit: 11,954,210 RAC: 0 |
Been scanning thru many of the threads, saw some references that the new BOINC isn't compatible with the enhanced version. I was running 5.x before, with AK_v8_win_SSE3 on my P4 3.4, and saw some posts about the Vid co pro when I checked the home page to see why my WU's weren't being accepted (turns out project is down) I thought Hey, I have a 9800GT, why not do a little more science, since it's just sitting there idling for most of the day. I haven't got a CUDA capable card ATM but, from what I have read here, your 9800GT should be able to get through far more WU's than your P4 processor (even with the AK_V8 on it). So it may still be worth further investigation - you could run another project on the 99+% of the P4 that S@H doesn't use. F. |
RandyC Send message Joined: 20 Oct 99 Posts: 714 Credit: 1,704,345 RAC: 0 |
Been scanning thru many of the threads, saw some references that the new BOINC isn't compatible with the enhanced version. I was running 5.x before, with AK_v8_win_SSE3 on my P4 3.4, and saw some posts about the Vid co pro when I checked the home page to see why my WU's weren't being accepted (turns out project is down) I thought Hey, I have a 9800GT, why not do a little more science, since it's just sitting there idling for most of the day. Or...he could run the optimized Astropulse. |
Dentaku Send message Joined: 24 May 99 Posts: 26 Credit: 72,931 RAC: 0 |
I just got a new graphics card that supports CUDA. BOINC is reporting "CUDA devices found". Coprozessor: GeForce 9400 GT (1). I finished all SETI WUs and now a new WU was downloaded: but no "CUDA" substring in the text ... just the same old "SETI@home ENhanced 5.28". WHat is wrong? Join team KRAFTWERK - all BOINCers welcome! :-) |
Mike Davis Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 240 Credit: 5,402,361 RAC: 0 |
sounds like you have an appinfo.xml file. delete that and it should work, assuming you have windows, cuda drivers, cuda card, boinc 6.4.5+ |
Dentaku Send message Joined: 24 May 99 Posts: 26 Credit: 72,931 RAC: 0 |
No, I don't have this file - I'm running Linux (Ubuntu 8.10, 64 Bit). Join team KRAFTWERK - all BOINCers welcome! :-) |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
No you don't have an App_info.xml file. Second Seti Cuda isn't available for Linux yet. CUda FAQ In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Dentaku Send message Joined: 24 May 99 Posts: 26 Credit: 72,931 RAC: 0 |
Okay, this was confusing: the SETI@home CUDA page (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/cuda.php) says: "CUDA apps are supported only on Windows and Linux; Mac OS X support is coming soon." and the FAQ (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/cuda_faq.php) says: "Releases for MacOS X and Linux are planned in the near future." Thanks for the hint! SO I have to wait for Linux CUDA support ... Join team KRAFTWERK - all BOINCers welcome! :-) |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
Okay, this was confusing: the SETI@home CUDA page (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/cuda.php) says:You should mention that discrepancy [url= http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=18]Here[/url] In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Al Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482 |
Been scanning thru many of the threads, saw some references that the new BOINC isn't compatible with the enhanced version. I was running 5.x before, with AK_v8_win_SSE3 on my P4 3.4, and saw some posts about the Vid co pro when I checked the home page to see why my WU's weren't being accepted (turns out project is down) I thought Hey, I have a 9800GT, why not do a little more science, since it's just sitting there idling for most of the day. Ok, I have a couple questions, when it came back up, it appears that I got 3 Astropulse tasks, they look to be about 189 hours to complete. I have seen them come thru now and then on my machines, but for the most part I have run S@H wu's. Looking at it running currently, it shows that 2 tasks are running, and both of them have about 130 hours to go, one a little longer than the other. I don't see anything indicating that the CUDA is active, as I always have 2 tasks running at once. It does say CUDA is found, here is the inital startup messages: 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||Starting BOINC client version 6.4.5 for windows_intelx86 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||Libraries: libcurl/7.19.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8i zlib/1.2.3 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||Data directory: C:\Program Files\BOINC\Data 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||Running under account Admin 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 3 Stepping 4] 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||Processor features: fpu tsc sse sse2 mmx 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Editon, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00) 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||Memory: 3.00 GB physical, 3.59 GB virtual 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||Disk: 70.93 GB total, 45.97 GB free 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||Local time is UTC -6 hours 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||Not using a proxy 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||CUDA devices found 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||Coprocessor: GeForce 8800 GT (1) 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 4737460; location: home; project prefs: default 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 26-May-2007 00:12:51) 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||Computer location: home 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1535.04MB 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 2916.59MB 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 35.46GB 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task ap_20no08ab_B2_P0_00218_20090102_29188.wu_1 using astropulse version 500 1/3/2009 11:37:00 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task ap_15no08ac_B2_P1_00201_20081227_26849.wu_3 using astropulse version 500 With the Vid co pro, shouldn't all 3 of the tasks I have now be running, 2 off of the P4 and the other using CUDA? Lastly, you mentioned running another project on it, as the Vid card would process things faster than my CPU. Not sure how to do this, I usually just install BOINC and attach to the project, add the enhanced app, and let it chug away. Haven't really done any configuring of it other than what it takes to get the enhanced app working. Any thoughts would be appreciated, thanks. :) |
Byron S Goodgame Send message Joined: 16 Jan 06 Posts: 1145 Credit: 3,936,993 RAC: 0 |
Hi, This message should help you set up the cc_config.xml file needed to get all the cores you have running tasks. Apparently, there's also the option of upgrading to Boinc 6.5.0 which can also do the same thing, but since it's a Development version, you may wish to wait till they've released it as a recomended version, after they have worked out more of the bugs that may exist with it. You can attach to other projects through the tools menu in Boinc Manger and following the instructions that follow. |
Al Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482 |
If you're referring to the message: 1) look for cc_config.xml file in BOINC folder. If you have not it, create one. 2) look for <ncpus>0</ncpus> string in that file (or create such strings) <cc_config> <options> <ncpus>0</ncpus> </options> </cc_config> 3) change "0" to 5 (for quad) or to 3 for duo. 4) save file and restart boinc (or chose load local preferences and read local options or smth lice this from BOINC manager menu) I didn't have the cc_config.xml file in the BOINC dir, so I created one, but still not sure exactly what to put in it. All the things listed in < >"s, and as I have a standard P4 3.4, should I leave the ncpus at 0? And, once doing this, will I have an indication in the main BOINC screen that all 3 are working? Thanks again |
Byron S Goodgame Send message Joined: 16 Jan 06 Posts: 1145 Credit: 3,936,993 RAC: 0 |
Hi, I only see this pc as being CUDA able so for this one you would adjust the setting like so <ncpus>3</ncpus>. After making this adjustment go back to Boinc Manger and in the Advanced menu click on read config file, which will update Boinc Manager. If you have two cpu tasks and a setiathome_enhanced 6.05 or 6.06 CUDA task, you should now see them all running, and can also be verified in Windows Task Manager. |
(retired account) Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 30 Credit: 91,116 RAC: 0 |
SO I have to wait for Linux CUDA support ... Dentaku, if you would like to start some CUDA crunching, check out GPUgrid in the meantime. They have a Linux 64bit application available and it has no major bugs since they started earlier last year with CUDA. Herzlichen Gruss aus Oberhessen! Alex |
Al Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482 |
Yep, that's the PC that I'm working on. Did as you instructed, edited it, restarted BOINC, and instructed it to re-read config file. Here is what is happening now: 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||Starting BOINC client version 6.4.5 for windows_intelx86 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||Libraries: libcurl/7.19.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8i zlib/1.2.3 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||Data directory: C:\Program Files\BOINC\Data 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||Running under account Admin 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 3 Stepping 4] 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||Processor features: fpu tsc sse sse2 mmx 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Editon, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00) 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||Memory: 3.00 GB physical, 3.59 GB virtual 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||Disk: 70.93 GB total, 45.96 GB free 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||Local time is UTC -6 hours 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||Not using a proxy 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||CUDA devices found 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||Coprocessor: GeForce 8800 GT (1) 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 4737460; location: home; project prefs: default 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 26-May-2007 00:12:51) 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||Computer location: home 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1535.04MB 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 2916.59MB 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM||Preferences limit disk usage to 35.46GB 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task ap_20no08ab_B2_P0_00218_20090102_29188.wu_1 using astropulse version 500 1/4/2009 12:15:46 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task ap_15no08ac_B2_P1_00201_20081227_26849.wu_3 using astropulse version 500 1/4/2009 12:30:32 AM||Re-reading cc_config.xml Went back to my tasks screen, same thing is happening, 2 of the 3 astropulse tasks are running, the 3rd still isn't. BTW, my processor is actually a single core, it is using hyperthreading to get the 2nd task running, if that makes a difference. It has always had 2 tasks running at once, I expected 3, should I? I appreciate your assistance |
Byron S Goodgame Send message Joined: 16 Jan 06 Posts: 1145 Credit: 3,936,993 RAC: 0 |
It's only suppose to run 2 cpu tasks with this setting and one gpu task. When you get a gpu task then you'll have 3 tasks running. You might want to make sure you have your SETI@home preferences set to recieve SETI@home Enhanced for this pc location. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Note that there is not AstroPulse CUDA app, so the most you can run is two AP on the CPUs and one CUDA MB on the GPU. |
Al Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482 |
Here is the way it's set up now: Resource share If you participate in multiple BOINC projects, this is the proportion of your resources used by SETI@home 100 Is it OK for SETI@home and your team (if any) to email you? Emails will be sent from setiweb@ssl.berkeley.edu; make sure your spam filter accepts this address. yes Should SETI@home show your computers on its web site? yes Default computer location home Graphics preferences Select Custom to edit individual parameters Minimalist Color preferences: Select Custom to edit individual parameters Tahiti Sunset URL of background image This image (JPEG, Targa, BMP or PPM format) will be displayed in the background. none URL of logo image This image (JPEG, Targa, BMP or PPM format) will be displayed in the lower corner. none Run only the selected applications (all applications) If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? no Use Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) if available yes But I think the last post by OzzFan may have explained it, AP doesn't do CUDA, and right now, all I have is AP WU's. Is there a way to force it to update to get more WU's, especially S@H ones? I have gone to the Projects tab and done an update on the S@H project, but it must think I am properly committed, as it won't give me any more WU's at this time. I could be crunching a bunch with my GPU if it would just give them to me... *sigh* Oh, and one last question, while looking at my settings on this computer, I noticed that all I have for credits is 43. I looked further down the list and found another instance of this computer listed with all the work it's done over the last few years. For some reason, it created a new computer ID when I installed 6.45, is this supposed to happen? Also, I have a bunch of S@H WU's sitting in the projects (version 5.x ones, if there is such a thing) folder of the 5.x install, is there a way to move them over to the new dir so they don't just languish out there till the system expires them? If so, this would give my GPU something to work on, and not be a "bad" wingman. Thanks again for all your help guys. We'll get this thing working :) |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
But I think the last post by OzzFan may have explained it, AP doesn't do CUDA, and right now, all I have is AP WU's. Is there a way to force it to update to get more WU's, especially S@H ones? I have gone to the Projects tab and done an update on the S@H project, but it must think I am properly committed, as it won't give me any more WU's at this time. I could be crunching a bunch with my GPU if it would just give them to me... *sigh* Yes, BOINC thinks you are properly fulfilled in work requests so it will not retrieve more until you work with what you already have. Sort of like finishing your dinner before allowing yourself seconds. :) Oh, and one last question, while looking at my settings on this computer, I noticed that all I have for credits is 43. I looked further down the list and found another instance of this computer listed with all the work it's done over the last few years. For some reason, it created a new computer ID when I installed 6.45, is this supposed to happen? Also, I have a bunch of S@H WU's sitting in the projects (version 5.x ones, if there is such a thing) folder of the 5.x install, is there a way to move them over to the new dir so they don't just languish out there till the system expires them? If so, this would give my GPU something to work on, and not be a "bad" wingman. You must have installed BOINC 6.4.5 as a new install, which generated a new system ID for you, leaving behind all your other cached work. If you had a different install directory with v5.x, then you would have had to tell the BOINC installer where you put your v5.x files so that it could properly convert them to the new v6.x folders. There is no way to merge the two folders and let all work complete. One option is to select No New Tasks to finish off your current cache, then uninstall BOINC completely. Then when you reinstall BOINC, make sure you point the installer to your old BOINC v5.x folder and it should pick up where it left off. |
Al Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482 |
Oh, just found out about Merging computers, so the last part of the post is taken care of. Unfortunately, I merged them the wrong way, I wanted to merge the new one into the old, not the old into the new, to keep my old ID number, start date, etc. Is there a way to undo it, and re-merge it correctly, either on the web interface or behind the scenes by an admin? |
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