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Message 34149 - Posted: 8 Oct 2004, 16:34:01 UTC - in response to Message 34099.  

> oh dear ,what going on with the american peoples,i not unterstand things like
> that
> look her
> http://www.operationarnold.com/home/
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They'd have a better chance if they made it 35 years instead of 20 years. Minimum age is 35 to run for Pres so if youre an american you would have been here for 35 years. Anyway, lets wait to see how Arnold finishes this term in 2 years and see if he gets relected for another term. Personally I'd like to see him run for senate in another 6 years against Barbara Boxer.
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Message 34164 - Posted: 8 Oct 2004, 17:35:25 UTC - in response to Message 34099.  
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> oh dear ,what going on with the american peoples,i not unterstand things like
> that
> look her
> http://www.operationarnold.com/home/
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This isn't Arnold's website, it belongs to a group called Operation Arnold, and we don't know if Arnold approves, or if this site is all a joke. But even if he does, and they get all the signatures they need for their petition, I give the chances for this kind of change to the Constitution, oh, about zero.

If I were "The Governator" I would take all this as a compliment and just ignore the site and any questions about whether I approve of the concept. Indeed, Arnold (it's too hard to spell his last name over and over, that's why I am using his first name) is quite popular in California right now. He doesn't need controversy about Constitutional amendments and running for president.
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Message 34216 - Posted: 8 Oct 2004, 20:18:36 UTC - in response to Message 34164.  

> This isn't Arnold's website, it belongs to a group called Operation Arnold,
> and we don't know if Arnold approves, or if this site is all a joke. But even
> if he does, and they get all the signatures they need for their petition, I
> give the chances for this kind of change to the Constitution, oh, about zero.
>
> If I were "The Governator" I would take all this as a compliment and just
> ignore the site and any questions about whether I approve of the concept.
> Indeed, Arnold (it's too hard to spell his last name over and over, that's why
> I am using his first name) is quite popular in California right now. He
> doesn't need controversy about Constitutional amendments and running for
> president.
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You have his name correct. Here we informally call him "Governor Arnold". Hopefully in another 2 years when his term is up he'll be re-elected again then in another 6 years run against Boxer for her senate seat. Then we'd have "Senator Arnold".
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Message 36184 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 19:39:57 UTC
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Message 36235 - Posted: 13 Oct 2004, 22:06:48 UTC

Did you guys saw the last news about nuclear stuff disapeared from
Irak ! What a joke... They forgot to protect nuclear plan but not
the oil pipe !!! It says it all...

Yea the world is surely much safer now...
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Message 36424 - Posted: 14 Oct 2004, 8:54:36 UTC - in response to Message 36235.  

Yea the world is surely much safer now...
And that's why supporting SETI is a must - We rational people must find a planet to colonize, otherwise we'll be killed by the watchmens' ineptitude/ignorance/indifference/et cetera.

OT: Sorry I've been offline for so long - Massive bummer on my machines.
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Message 36664 - Posted: 14 Oct 2004, 23:49:19 UTC - in response to Message 36235.  

> Did you guys saw the last news about nuclear stuff disapeared from
> Irak ! What a joke... They forgot to protect nuclear plan but not
> the oil pipe !!! It says it all...

And another debate where every answer to every question got pointed back to Iraq. I swear that if it were not for Iraq the debates wouldve been cancelled for lack of topics.
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Message 36695 - Posted: 15 Oct 2004, 2:02:54 UTC - in response to Message 36664.  

I swear that if it were not for Iraq the debates wouldve been cancelled for lack of topics.

Are you kidding me?! What about human rights abuses? What about the rollback of EPA gas uasage requirements? What about the fact that the US has 20% of its population in prison and/or poverty? What about nationalizing the internet infrastructure? And the end of corruption? End of budget deficits? Returning to the Kyoto Protocol? Immigration? Emigration?

I'm amazed that what's-his-name didn't ask the candidates "What would you like to have discussed that wasn't asked in the debates?" - That's the best question!
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Message 36700 - Posted: 15 Oct 2004, 2:25:19 UTC - in response to Message 36695.  
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AM I kidding you? No. If the candidates/moderators thought the questions that you mentioned important they wouldve been asked. Hell maybe they were asked but the answers always led back to Iraq. There were a dozen other questions that *I* would've asked too. This last debate was supposed to be about DOMESTIC issues only, but I think the word "Iraq" somehow ended up in all the answers.

To our non-American forum users:
Did you notice that at the end of the closing speaches Kerry said,"God Bless AMERICA" while Pres Bush said,"God Bless YOU"?

Edited for accuracy:
Kerry: "Thank you, good night, and God bless the United States of America."
Bush: "I want to thank you for listening tonight. I'm asking for your vote. God bless you."
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Message 36706 - Posted: 15 Oct 2004, 2:45:56 UTC - in response to Message 36700.  

AM I kidding you? No. If the candidates/moderators thought the questions that you mentioned important they wouldve been asked. Hell maybe they were asked but the answers always led back to Iraq.

That's the problem - The moderator who could have really asked the burning questions got stuck with the international debate. I vote for Jim Leherer.

To our non-American forum users:
Did you notice that at the end of the closing speaches Kerry said,"God Bless AMERICA" while Pres Bush said,"God Bless YOU"?


I spoke with my family in Buenos Aires earlier today, and they picked up on it.
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Message 36708 - Posted: 15 Oct 2004, 3:06:08 UTC

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Message 36772 - Posted: 15 Oct 2004, 8:22:40 UTC - in response to Message 36700.  


> To our non-American forum users:
> Did you notice that at the end of the closing speaches Kerry said,"God Bless
> AMERICA" while Pres Bush said,"God Bless YOU"?
>
> Edited for accuracy:
> Kerry: "Thank you, good night, and God bless the United States of America."
> Bush: "I want to thank you for listening tonight. I'm asking for your vote.
> God bless you."

Wonder if there's any connection with this?:

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Message 36994 - Posted: 15 Oct 2004, 21:42:01 UTC - in response to Message 36772.  
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> Wonder if there's any connection with this?:
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> The Grauniad
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This is old news to me. Forgot about all the pacifists protest all
arround the world prior to Irak invasion ? Hundreds of thousands
of protesters on almost every country's capital...Even the British,
the strongest US allie of the willing member, were in majority
opposed to this invasion.

I am traveling arround the world, I am working with people of about
30 different nationalities, I always knew that the world hated bush.
Everybody is aware of the way he cheated the 2000 election, annoyed
the world, rushed into war, etc.

If the hole world could vote the results would be even greater in Kerry's
favor than what we see on this "official" survey. In fact all the peoples
I know (friends, familly, people I talk to in bars and café, work colleges)
in France, Canada and all over the world would vote for Kerry.

In fact, since the US has so much influance over the world, I guess
we should all be voting...And the election should be monitored by the
UN to assure that bush don't cheat this time.

Save the USA, save the world, vote against Bush !!!

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Message 37009 - Posted: 15 Oct 2004, 22:53:58 UTC - in response to Message 36994.  

And the election should be monitored by the UN to assure that bush don't cheat this time.

I so badly wish we'd have election oversight. In fact, I was rather hoping that the leaders of the World - from Fidel Castro, through Tony Blair, to Kofi Annan - would voice who they would favor working with.

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Message 37025 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 0:28:55 UTC

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Message 37027 - Posted: 16 Oct 2004, 0:54:13 UTC - in response to Message 37025.  

> <a> href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=535&e=6&u=/ap/20041015/ap_on_re_eu/views_of_america">This
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So many of the international community are backing Kerry but before the primaries 6 months ago how many of them knew Kerry? Kerry voted FOR the war against Iraq, so who's to say that had he been president back in 2001 things wouldve happened differently? When it comes to elections ALL politicians will tell you what you WANT to hear. I dont trust either of them. Also I think it was a mistake for Bush to debate. Before the first debate he was way ahead in the polls. Then he had to look like a bozo on national TV and now he has a chance of losing. He needs to slap his campaign manager.
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