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Message 816494 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 0:58:16 UTC

So I get a prompt that tells me I can upgrade to Antivirus 2009 for free, what the hell right? So I download and install, and of course it has you reboot after the install completes. Upon restart, some new feature they added in immediately identifies AK_v8 SSE3 .exe file as a "threat" and automatically deletes it w/o asking!! So every wu I had in cache errors out, & I just wasted the last half hour reinstalling Antivirus 2008 and figuring out where they moved the Projects folder to so I could reinstall the optimized files. I don't remember exactly what the feature was called that pulled this little stunt - Sonar or Scuba or something like that - but whatever it was, stay away from AV09.
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Message 816495 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 1:02:16 UTC

I've been staying away from Norton and McAfee for close to a decade now. They're CPU hogs and are poorly written with sluggish interfaces that don't even do their jobs right.

Just my opinion, of course.
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Message 816501 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 1:27:15 UTC

any alternatives? I hate the hogs, as well, but McA comes 'free' with comcast.
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Message 816524 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 2:09:31 UTC

AVG! It works and its free.
Nortons is a virus. Have to reformat to get rid of it. Mcafee has never worked for me. Ive been an AVG user for like 5 years now and it works great!
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Message 816532 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 3:06:32 UTC
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I've been a big fan of ESet Nod32 for the past 5 years. Nod32 seems to be able to catch most every virus/trojan on a system even after it has been infected (or infested is more like it).

Not only does it catch everything that I've personally seen Norton and McAfee miss on some machines, but it also has the lowest CPU utilization for it's realtime scanner. You can't even tell its running except for the icon in the Notification Area (system tray). It also seems to have the best scan and removal rate of any anti-virus solution out there for the past several years as claimed by independant lab testing.

Again, just my opinion.
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Message 816537 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 3:28:10 UTC - in response to Message 816532.  

AVAST is free also and they have a server version also.
ClamWin is also free.
AVG is also great
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Message 816542 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 3:51:00 UTC - in response to Message 816532.  

I've been a big fan of ESet Nod32 for the past 5 years. Nod32 seems to be able to catch most every virus/trojan on a system even after it has been infected (or infested is more like it).

Not only does it catch everything that I've personally seen Norton and McAfee miss on some machines, but it also has the lowest CPU utilization for it's realtime scanner. You can't even tell its running except for the icon in the Notification Area (system tray). It also seems to have the best scan and removal rate of any anti-virus solution out there for the past several years as claimed by independant lab testing.

Again, just my opinion.


I'll second that.

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Message 816608 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 9:50:21 UTC

I saw a story on the news, in the last week or so, how there is a Trojan/virus being distributed with a bogus Free Norton Offer.

Google it and you will see. I’ve never seen Norton for free unless it was an old version with outdated updates or came with a new computer.
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Message 816611 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 10:31:44 UTC - in response to Message 816608.  
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Hi, NO you don't have to reFORMAT, to get rid off it, you can find, uninstall prog's on 'their' WEB-site (or use the install (CD/DVD))
There are a lot off good aand free AV prog's, like AVAST , AVG .
Only use Mc Afee on my 'main host', wich handles my E-Mail and WEB 'safety' , but stricktly acting to my rules, so no everyday scanning.
But I have to agree with Ozzfan, Mc A & Norton are far to BIG and sluggish and don't even do their job well, f.i. E-Mail, it constantly messes up, my WHITE and BLACKlists, also seen error's in other progs (SETI, EINSTEIN) due to scanning.
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Message 816620 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 11:10:14 UTC

Norton Utilities, when owned & run by Peter Norton was an excellent package, but since being bought out by Symantec, it has become a liability to users.

I've found AVG to be pretty reliable. Haven't tried the others, so can't comment.
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Message 816624 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 11:43:29 UTC - in response to Message 816542.  

I've been a big fan of ESet Nod32 for the past 5 years. Nod32 seems to be able to catch most every virus/trojan on a system even after it has been infected (or infested is more like it).

Not only does it catch everything that I've personally seen Norton and McAfee miss on some machines, but it also has the lowest CPU utilization for it's realtime scanner. You can't even tell its running except for the icon in the Notification Area (system tray). It also seems to have the best scan and removal rate of any anti-virus solution out there for the past several years as claimed by independant lab testing.

Again, just my opinion.


I'll second that.


I'll third it!

Used it for years on my laptop and on another general use desktop machine.

I bought a new laptop for my dad this week and the first thing I did was to un-install NAV. Suddenly it now performs like a new laptop should.
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Message 816678 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 15:30:43 UTC - in response to Message 816620.  
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Norton Utilities, when owned & run by Peter Norton was an excellent package, but since being bought out by Symantec, it has become a liability to users.


I liked Symantec Norton Utilities v8.0 for DOS and Windows 3.1. It was a solid product and it offered Win31 capabilities for more of the utilities so that I didn't have to exit to DOS (though I still did because I love DOS).

I skipped the first two versions for Windows 95 (since I didn't have a Win95 machine until later), but then I used Norton Utilities for Windows 95 version 3.0 and it was sluggish as all ----. Just using their system monitor slowed down everything to the speed of a 386. I gave Norton Utilities for Windows 95 v4.0 and Norton SystemWorks 1.0 - 3.0 a try and it only got worse. I gave up and switched to ESet and have been very happy.

My g/f's mom and uncle purchased McAfee and used them for a year. After all the good things I had heard about McAfee for many years, I thought it would be a good product so I didn't discourage it. Then, after they told me their computer was behaving erratically, I investigated and found that there was probably spyware/trojans on the machines so I ran McAfee AV and it found nothing (not to mention it took over their entire machine). So I installed Nod32 and ran it and it found over 45 infections that it removed immediately. I couldn't believe it. So now when somebody asks, I cannot recommend McAfee as a decent AV solution.
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Message 816688 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 16:01:36 UTC - in response to Message 816611.  

Hi, NO you don't have to reFORMAT, to get rid off it, you can find, uninstall prog's on 'their' WEB-site
Nice that it worked for you. Did not for me. I did not re-format, but did seek out useful advice on the web and wound up doing the most extensive regedit session I can ever recall. Many, many dozens of deletions form the registry _after_ I had tried to run their uninstalls. Partly this depends on how old your version is--I had kept my subscription for an older version rather than "upgrading", so by the time their botched renewal process finally got me in the mood to switch I was outside the scope of their uninstaller. This despite the fact they had cheerfully sold me annual subscriptions through one year earlier. Sweet. Not. I am now a full-fledged hater of the current Norton as delivered by Symantec.

As to alternatives, I'm an Eset NOD32 user for antivirus (not free, reputed to be good) and a COMODO Pro firewall user (free). I gave up on Zonealarm even more recently than on Norton AV, after two catastrophes in less than three months.

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Message 816761 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 18:57:25 UTC

Where I work we have 157 remote site across the UK. This week Mcafee performed an update that identified Dameware.exe as a threat a promptly started to remove it from all sites!!(for those who don't know Dameware is a remote control program that our support team used to access remote machines)

Why the hell do we pay for these things

Personally I have been using Avast for the last few months, since AVG 8 left something to be desired.

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Message 816770 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 19:11:38 UTC

I used AVG 8.0 on all My PCs(It's Free), It even handles spyware/malwar/tracking cookies/etc, Checks links when I do searches on Google and It works with XP x64 too(some of It natively too).
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Message 816771 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 19:13:58 UTC - in response to Message 816770.  

I used AVG 8.0 on all My PCs(It's Free), It even handles spyware/malwar/tracking cookies/etc, Checks links when I do searches on Google and It works with XP x64 too(some of It natively too).


Nod32 (despite the name) also has a 64bit native client that works well with not only XP x64, but all versions of Vista x64, which is particularly important to me since I have Vista x64 on most of my active machines.
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Message 816776 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 19:33:40 UTC - in response to Message 816771.  

I used AVG 8.0 on all My PCs(It's Free), It even handles spyware/malwar/tracking cookies/etc, Checks links when I do searches on Google and It works with XP x64 too(some of It natively too).


Nod32 (despite the name) also has a 64bit native client that works well with not only XP x64, but all versions of Vista x64, which is particularly important to me since I have Vista x64 on most of my active machines.

AVG on 32-bit laptops and Avast on my Vista 64-bit desktop rig here. Don't really know why the difference (except that I was using all AVG until it wouldn't support the 64 so I installed Avast - both seem to work adequately without being intrusive).

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Message 816777 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 19:34:33 UTC
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I am running kittyvirus double nought........
Hardware firewall on the router and mind yer clicks, sir.
A little forethought can go a long way.........
And 7 out of 8 rigs only crunch anyway.........

Not that I would recommend that approach for everybody.....
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Message 816784 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 19:55:43 UTC - in response to Message 816777.  

I am running kittyvirus double nought........
Hardware firewall on the router and mind yer clicks, sir.
A little forethought can go a long way.........
And 7 out of 8 rigs only crunch anyway.........

Not that I would recommend that approach for everybody.....

Yes, I run a hardware firewall on the router too. I'm reasonably comfortable as according to ShieldsUp my machine is invisible to the outside world too.

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Message 816787 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 20:02:04 UTC - in response to Message 816784.  

I am running kittyvirus double nought........
Hardware firewall on the router and mind yer clicks, sir.
A little forethought can go a long way.........
And 7 out of 8 rigs only crunch anyway.........

Not that I would recommend that approach for everybody.....

Yes, I run a hardware firewall on the router too. I'm reasonably comfortable as according to ShieldsUp my machine is invisible to the outside world too.

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Yup......but like I said.........be careful where ya click, mon.

No router can save yer butt if you invite them in the door......LOL.
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