Panic Mode On (9) Server problems

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Wandering Willie Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 133 Credit: 1,283,425 RAC: 217	Message 817006 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 10:09:57 UTC - in response to Message 816479.
	Hi Richard, I'm not sure that this is connected to your post but have found on occasions that the report dates have been reversed i.e. 27:11:2008 as 11:27:2008, not noticable so much below 12:10:2008 as 10:12:2008 . I took it to be a screen refresh problem as coming off and back on the dates were correctly printed. This was on both 6:2:19 and prerelease 6:3:10. Anyone else seen this. Michael
	ID: 817006 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7458 Credit: 39,659,435 RAC: 33,303	Message 817009 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 10:48:15 UTC - in response to Message 817006.
	Hi Richard, I'm not sure that this is connected to your post but have found on occasions that the report dates have been reversed i.e. 27:11:2008 as 11:27:2008, not noticable so much below 12:10:2008 as 10:12:2008 . I took it to be a screen refresh problem as coming off and back on the dates were correctly printed. This was on both 6:2:19 and prerelease 6:3:10. Anyone else seen this. Michael In the case of the dates, it could be a localisation problem - in Windows at least, BOINC displays dates in the order/format specified in Regional Settings. I've reported an apparent bug where, sorting by date in a regional format specifying 12-hour clock, the sort algorithm ignored the AM/PM flags. In the case of the IP addresses, I wondered whether it was a display bug rather than a functional bug, but decided it wasn't - the reversed SETI server address turns out to be stealthed and unresponsive, and sure enough BOINC doesn't get a reply when it displays that it's trying to use it. But if BOINC displays that it's trying the correct address, then it also (in every example I've seen) displays a meaningful reply from the server it's trying to reach. What I haven't tracked down yet is the point at which the IP address gets reversed - it doesn't start like that. Perhaps Matt could crash the server again so I can do some more testing????? LOL.
	ID: 817009 ·

Ageless Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 11635 Credit: 2,000,530 RAC: 4,176	Message 817010 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 10:52:14 UTC
	Uploads are on the fritz again, from where I sit. 11-Oct-08 12:45:02\|SETI@home\|Started upload of 26au08ae.5043.257914.15.8.28_1_0 11-Oct-08 12:45:02\|\|[file_xfer_debug] URL: http://setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/file_upload_handler 11-Oct-08 12:46:52\|\|[file_xfer_debug] FILE_XFER_SET::poll(): http op done; retval 0 11-Oct-08 12:46:52\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer_debug] parsing upload response: <data_server_reply> <status>0</status> <file_size>0</file_size></data_server_reply>client_minor_version>3</core_client_minor_version> <core_client_release>14</core_client_release> <get_file_size>26au08ae.5043.257914.15.8.28_1_0</get_file_size></data_server_request> 11-Oct-08 12:46:52\|SETI@home\|[file_xfer_debug] parsing status: 0 11-Oct-08 12:47:14\|\|Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 11-Oct-08 12:47:14\|\|[file_xfer_debug] FILE_XFER_SET::poll(): http op done; retval -107 11-Oct-08 12:47:14\|\|[file_xfer_debug] file transfer status -107 11-Oct-08 12:47:14\|SETI@home\|Temporarily failed upload of 26au08ae.5043.257914.15.8.28_1_0: connect() failed 11-Oct-08 12:47:14\|SETI@home\|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on upload of 26au08ae.5043.257914.15.8.28_1_0 11-Oct-08 12:47:15\|\|Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down. ____________ Jord - BOINC FAQ Service - BOINC User Wiki Real is just a matter of perception.
	ID: 817010 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7458 Credit: 39,659,435 RAC: 33,303	Message 817012 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 10:56:08 UTC Last modified: 11 Oct 2008, 11:00:56 UTC
	Some get through, some don't. They just struggle to get heard above the noise of the downloads (see the Cricket graphs). Matt is splitting shorties again. Edit - he's also splitting AP, and probably more people are downloading AP WUs now that the opti app is public. The combination of AP tasks (big downloads) and shorty MB tasks (lots of downloads) is pretty poisonous to the data pipe.
	ID: 817012 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34147 Credit: 344,016,938 RAC: 542,101	Message 817024 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 13:21:46 UTC
	Ouch........ The Pipe be maxed out... And the Scarecrow graphs are lookin' a bit scary too............ ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 817024 ·

VBobier Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 40805 Credit: 32,101,010 RAC: 19,339	Message 817048 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 15:00:38 UTC - in response to Message 817012. Last modified: 11 Oct 2008, 15:02:11 UTC
	Some get through, some don't. They just struggle to get heard above the noise of the downloads (see the Cricket graphs). Matt is splitting shorties again. Edit - he's also splitting AP, and probably more people are downloading AP WUs now that the opti app is public. The combination of AP tasks (big downloads) and shorty MB tasks (lots of downloads) is pretty poisonous to the data pipe. So that be the reason I'm getting errors on downloading and such, sigh, At least My PCs are doing ok, Seti needs more bandwidth to do both AP and MB It seems. :( But I'll keep on crunching, What choice do I have? ____________ BSG Anthem My Facebook page
	ID: 817048 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34147 Credit: 344,016,938 RAC: 542,101	Message 817054 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 15:10:58 UTC - in response to Message 817048.
	Some get through, some don't. They just struggle to get heard above the noise of the downloads (see the Cricket graphs). Matt is splitting shorties again. Edit - he's also splitting AP, and probably more people are downloading AP WUs now that the opti app is public. The combination of AP tasks (big downloads) and shorty MB tasks (lots of downloads) is pretty poisonous to the data pipe. So that be the reason I'm getting errors on downloading and such, sigh, At least My PCs are doing ok, Seti needs more bandwidth to do both AP and MB It seems. :( But I'll keep on crunching, What choice do I have? There is no other choice........ I just wish we could find a benefactor that could donate a Gb point to point link for them to get that bandwidth down the mountain. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 817054 ·

VBobier Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 40805 Credit: 32,101,010 RAC: 19,339	Message 817069 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 16:02:23 UTC - in response to Message 817054. Last modified: 11 Oct 2008, 16:05:10 UTC
	Some get through, some don't. They just struggle to get heard above the noise of the downloads (see the Cricket graphs). Matt is splitting shorties again. Edit - he's also splitting AP, and probably more people are downloading AP WUs now that the opti app is public. The combination of AP tasks (big downloads) and shorty MB tasks (lots of downloads) is pretty poisonous to the data pipe. So that be the reason I'm getting errors on downloading and such, sigh, At least My PCs are doing ok, Seti needs more bandwidth to do both AP and MB It seems. :( But I'll keep on crunching, What choice do I have? There is no other choice........ I just wish we could find a benefactor that could donate a GB point to point link for them to get that bandwidth down the mountain. Short of one of US here winning a Lottery for a lot of money, I'm afraid Yer right. Right now Angel is cold most likely as It's 72F in here and 47F outside and the pilot for the heater is off and calling SW Gas to do that isn't possible right now, Monday at the earliest, But At least I got the New plastic(w/foam weatherstripping inside the cover for $52.00 total) swamp cooler cover on the cooler now. ____________ BSG Anthem My Facebook page
	ID: 817069 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34147 Credit: 344,016,938 RAC: 542,101	Message 817076 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 16:14:20 UTC - in response to Message 817069.
	Right now Angel is cold most likely as It's 72F in here and 47F outside and the pilot for the heater is off and calling SW Gas to do that isn't possible right now, Monday at the earliest Kitties are always warm......... Even when I turn the heat down here, they are always camped out on the waterbed where it's cozy....... ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 817076 ·

VBobier Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 40805 Credit: 32,101,010 RAC: 19,339	Message 817085 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 16:41:13 UTC - in response to Message 817076.
	Right now Angel is cold most likely as It's 72F in here and 47F outside and the pilot for the heater is off and calling SW Gas to do that isn't possible right now, Monday at the earliest Kitties are always warm......... Even when I turn the heat down here, they are always camped out on the waterbed where it's cozy....... Hopefully declawed if their on the waterbed, Else start balin. Besides You've got More PCs and income to support them than I do. :D ____________ BSG Anthem My Facebook page
	ID: 817085 ·

Ghery S. Pettit Send message Joined: 7 Nov 99 Posts: 279 Credit: 21,900,356 RAC: 8,218	Message 817096 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 17:02:52 UTC - in response to Message 817069.
	Some get through, some don't. They just struggle to get heard above the noise of the downloads (see the Cricket graphs). Matt is splitting shorties again. Edit - he's also splitting AP, and probably more people are downloading AP WUs now that the opti app is public. The combination of AP tasks (big downloads) and shorty MB tasks (lots of downloads) is pretty poisonous to the data pipe. So that be the reason I'm getting errors on downloading and such, sigh, At least My PCs are doing ok, Seti needs more bandwidth to do both AP and MB It seems. :( But I'll keep on crunching, What choice do I have? There is no other choice........ I just wish we could find a benefactor that could donate a GB point to point link for them to get that bandwidth down the mountain. Short of one of US here winning a Lottery for a lot of money, I'm afraid Yer right. Right now Angel is cold most likely as It's 72F in here and 47F outside and the pilot for the heater is off and calling SW Gas to do that isn't possible right now, Monday at the earliest, But At least I got the New plastic(w/foam weatherstripping inside the cover for $52.00 total) swamp cooler cover on the cooler now. Aren't there re-light instructions on the furnace? Not having a furnace work when you need it stinks. BTDT. ____________
	ID: 817096 ·

Swibby Bear Send message Joined: 1 Aug 01 Posts: 236 Credit: 6,574,366 RAC: 3,155	Message 817109 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 17:45:03 UTC
	Upload Server Bruno is out of service. Uploads not working.
	ID: 817109 ·

VBobier Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 40805 Credit: 32,101,010 RAC: 19,339	Message 817110 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 17:45:25 UTC - in response to Message 817096.
	Some get through, some don't. They just struggle to get heard above the noise of the downloads (see the Cricket graphs). Matt is splitting shorties again. Edit - he's also splitting AP, and probably more people are downloading AP WUs now that the opti app is public. The combination of AP tasks (big downloads) and shorty MB tasks (lots of downloads) is pretty poisonous to the data pipe. So that be the reason I'm getting errors on downloading and such, sigh, At least My PCs are doing ok, Seti needs more bandwidth to do both AP and MB It seems. :( But I'll keep on crunching, What choice do I have? There is no other choice........ I just wish we could find a benefactor that could donate a GB point to point link for them to get that bandwidth down the mountain. Short of one of US here winning a Lottery for a lot of money, I'm afraid Yer right. Right now Angel is cold most likely as It's 72F in here and 47F outside and the pilot for the heater is off and calling SW Gas to do that isn't possible right now, Monday at the earliest, But At least I got the New plastic(w/foam weatherstripping inside the cover for $52.00 total) swamp cooler cover on the cooler now. Aren't there re-light instructions on the furnace? Not having a furnace work when you need it stinks. BTDT. Instructions? Actually no(besides It's very hard to see where to light and I've tried It already in years past), The place was built in a factory in 1987 and I bought the place used in 2006(packing It up, moving It and setting It up was a small adventure in and of Itself to the tune of about $7,000.00 and required 3 separate companies to accomplish the move over a state line(NV to CA)), In any case It's almost 73F now and 54F outside, Meanwhile I'm just letting the PCs handle the slow uploads which seems to clear by morning by some miracle. ____________ BSG Anthem My Facebook page
	ID: 817110 ·

BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2480 Credit: 7,444,212 RAC: 13,670	Message 817148 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 19:13:56 UTC
	I am beginning to wonder if the problems are a function of scaling limitations -- which might not be resolved by simply tossing more money and hardware at the problem. ____________
	ID: 817148 ·

jason_gee Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 4041 Credit: 60,321,549 RAC: 59,382	Message 817149 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 19:16:05 UTC - in response to Message 817148.
	That, and the need for a giant pair of scissors to cut red tape. I think we could all do with one of those... ____________ "It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change." Charles Darwin
	ID: 817149 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34147 Credit: 344,016,938 RAC: 542,101	Message 817151 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 19:29:54 UTC - in response to Message 817148.
	I am beginning to wonder if the problems are a function of scaling limitations -- which might not be resolved by simply tossing more money and hardware at the problem. No.......sounds more like politics than money to me........... ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 817151 ·

VBobier Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 40805 Credit: 32,101,010 RAC: 19,339	Message 817161 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 20:08:55 UTC - in response to Message 817151.
	I am beginning to wonder if the problems are a function of scaling limitations -- which might not be resolved by simply tossing more money and hardware at the problem. No.......sounds more like politics than money to me........... Ah yes, Seti is poor and Berkeley who might have the money won't help for some reason. Hopefully this isn't true of course, But Hey I'd have to be a mind reader or in the loop to know for sure. ____________ BSG Anthem My Facebook page
	ID: 817161 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34147 Credit: 344,016,938 RAC: 542,101	Message 817162 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 20:14:40 UTC - in response to Message 817161. Last modified: 11 Oct 2008, 20:22:37 UTC
	I am beginning to wonder if the problems are a function of scaling limitations -- which might not be resolved by simply tossing more money and hardware at the problem. No.......sounds more like politics than money to me........... Ah yes, Seti is poor and Berkeley who might have the money won't help for some reason. Hopefully this isn't true of course, But Hey I'd have to be a mind reader or in the loop to know for sure. Like I said........it's politics........ And the admins at Berkeley don't know which side their bread is buttered on........ Don't they realize the publicity and the recognition that Seti brings to their table????? You would think they would bow over and give the project anything they ask for........not that they beg for much........ But geez............a little investment in bandwidth???? Come on, admins........I am a little guy, and I have donated, can't you? I hope this rant is not out of line, and somebody who cares and can do will read it............. And go frickin' figure........it looks like the upload server just got nuked again............. ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 817162 ·

msattler Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 34147 Credit: 344,016,938 RAC: 542,101	Message 817164 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 20:25:01 UTC
	The kitties must muzzle themselves........lest the mods have to......... Meowwwwwwwmphhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ____________ ****** "Ask not, what your kitty can do for you. Ask what you can do for your kitty." As it is kitten, so shall it be done.
	ID: 817164 ·

Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 5059 Credit: 40,846,373 RAC: 52,620	Message 817167 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 20:29:42 UTC
	No uploads happening, just checked the Server Status page & it appears the Upload Server is down. Also noticed no new work is being created. ____________ Grant Darwin NT.
	ID: 817167 ·

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