Anyone know what the latest version of boinc is for? There's no mention in the news so I assume it's no essential? I'm currently running 4.05 and all the problems seem to be server side.

It would be nice to know (in an easy to find place) what changes have been made and what bugs have been fixed.

Mark

> Anyone know what the latest version of boinc is for? There's no mention in the
> news so I assume it's no essential? I'm currently running 4.05 and all the
> problems seem to be server side.
>
> It would be nice to know (in an easy to find place) what changes have been
> made and what bugs have been fixed.
>

though 4.09 is/was mostly a bug fix for win 98 types, it dos have some nice new features in it ... so upgrading is not a bad idea....
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I installed v4.09 awhile back on just one of my Computers Paul, I guess I missed something because I didn't notice any new features other than the Benchmarks getting whacked all to hell.

What are these supposedly new features...???

> I installed v4.09 awhile back on just one of my Computers Paul, I guess I
> missed something because I didn't notice any new features other than the
> Benchmarks getting whacked all to hell.
>
> What are these supposedly new features...???
>

All bug-fixes except a bug in win98 programmed around was for all windows-versions, but NT has much higher limits on #handles and similar so mostly they'll not show up here...

Appart for the crash-fixes, probably the most important bug-fixes in v4.09 was:
1; Core-client re-starts the application if it's stopped before finished, mostly due to lost "keep alive"-signal. Before the machine could sit idle for hours/days till BOINC re-started.
2; If failed download of application-files, they're marked as error instead of waiting forever for download, and again sitting idle.
3; Gui & cli is now aware of eachother, so you can't start a 2nd copy.
4; Fixed bug in download of user-supplied pictures, for anyone using this...
5; Fixed some bugs in the benchmark-code.
AFAIK also fixes to multi-project so more closely following the resource-share.

> Appart for the crash-fixes, probably the most important bug-fixes in v4.09
> was:

> 5; Fixed some bugs in the benchmark-code.
> AFAIK also fixes to multi-project so more closely following the
> resource-share.

I thought the slice was introduced in 4.09 ... that was the one I was thinking of ... bottom line for me was that it seemed incrementally better than 4.05 ...

Now, if they can just find out where the multi-project cross connect is ... my joy would be complete ...

Maybe they are just waiting until we go to the new GUI ... so far I have not had a problem since I turned off Pirates and Predictor ... but when Predictor comes back on line I will start them back up too ...
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>
> I thought the slice was introduced in 4.09 ... that was the one I was thinking
> of ... bottom line for me was that it seemed incrementally better than 4.05
> ...

Time-slicing was included in v4.03, the one used to beta CPDN, but was improved in v4.09. The next version should AFAIK use the new preference of how long each slice should be...

>
> Now, if they can just find out where the multi-project cross connect is ... my
> joy would be complete ...

This is already fixed in next version, but v4.10 had another bad bug so alpha is currently testing v4.11. Most likely this will be released in a couple of days if no problems.

The problems with corrupted file-downloads on the other hand is AFAIK not fixed...

Ingleside,

> > I thought the slice was introduced in 4.09 ... that was the one I was
> thinking
> > of ... bottom line for me was that it seemed incrementally better than
> 4.05
> This is already fixed in next version, but v4.10 had another bad bug so alpha
> is currently testing v4.11. Most likely this will be released in a couple of
> days if no problems.

Cool! ... with the off-line projects not carried, I seem to be doing good ...

> The problems with corrupted file-downloads on the other hand is AFAIK not
> fixed...

My suspicion it has something to do on the server end ... under high loads you get misses on the connection and the data transfer ... but what do I know ....

:)
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Is 4.09 now required to download SETI work? I have Win98SE & am still using 4.06 (because it works great & I had heard of various 4.09 problems) but all of a sudden I'm getting checksum/signature/unrecoverable errors which I've never had before when downloading. No problems getting LHC WUs.

Edit: Never mind - I did get 2 successful WUs from SETI - the failures were due to "File downloaded was not the correct file or was garbage from bad URL".

> Is 4.09 now required to download SETI work? I have Win98SE & am still
> using 4.06 (because it works great & I had heard of various 4.09 problems)
> but all of a sudden I'm getting checksum/signature/unrecoverable errors which
> I've never had before when downloading. No problems getting LHC WUs.
>
> Edit: Never mind - I did get 2 successful WUs from SETI - the failures were
> due to "File downloaded was not the correct file or was garbage from bad URL".

Although not required, (yet) it's always a good idea to upgrade to the latest public releases. I say yet because dev does have the power to only accept work from specific CC versions. In beta, there were some people running hopelessly outdated CCs that were messing up credit for everybody. The dev team forced an upgrade by dissallowing work from old clients. Since 4.09 has slightly different benchmarking, this might happen here as well.

> Although not required, (yet) it's always a good idea to upgrade to the latest
> public releases. I say yet because dev does have the power to only accept work
> from specific CC versions. In beta, there were some people running hopelessly
> outdated CCs that were messing up credit for everybody. The dev team forced an
> upgrade by dissallowing work from old clients. Since 4.09 has slightly
> different benchmarking, this might happen here as well.
>

I disagree with this. If the client is stable and working on your system, I say don't upgrade until you have to. If the Dev team forces an upgrade, then great, go ahead and do it. But I see no reason to introduce a possibly unstable upgrade into a stable environment.




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Time slicing did not work in 4.05.

Upgraded to 4.08 alpha. Time slicing among projects based on my set resource share values worked in 4.08.

When I upgraded to 4.09 the time slicing no longer followed my settings. Processing among project under 4.09 treated each project equally. On viewing the DEBT value in the XML file found that it was being flip-flopped between zero and some value depending on which project was active at the time.

Went back to 4.08 and all is fine again.

regards
Z

Thanks guys. I upgraded to 4.05 when my Win98 PC kept hanging/crashing. That seemed to fixed everything important. So I think I'll stick with the current version unless I have to...

The only small bug I've noticed since (client side anyhow) is the one which messes up the messages window. Is this some sort of resource problem? I don't know why the list can't be reset at midnight or some predetermined time. With all the problems of late it certainly fills up quickly!

Mark

> Thanks guys. I upgraded to 4.05 when my Win98 PC kept hanging/crashing. That
> seemed to fixed everything important. So I think I'll stick with the current
> version unless I have to...
>
> The only small bug I've noticed since (client side anyhow) is the one which
> messes up the messages window. Is this some sort of resource problem? I don't
> know why the list can't be reset at midnight or some predetermined time. With
> all the problems of late it certainly fills up quickly!

That disappearing scroll bar has been with us for like forever... I have no idea, and aparantly if anyone else does they have not told the developers. With a new GUI around the corner ... well, live with it

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> Although not required, (yet) it's always a good idea to upgrade to the latest
> public releases. I say yet because dev does have the power to only accept work
> from specific CC versions. In beta, there were some people running hopelessly
> outdated CCs that were messing up credit for everybody. The dev team forced an
> upgrade by dissallowing work from old clients. Since 4.09 has slightly
> different benchmarking, this might happen here as well.

Yes, good point, I remember those problems in beta, but there were vast differences in the new CCs that came out then, benchmarks off by factors of 5 or 6 etc. Beta should naturally require more diligence in keeping up with new versions. But now there seem to be quite a few people running 4.10 & 4.11, along with the majority running 4.09 I would guess, so you have to wonder about those "alpha" results too, if they compare with the majority.

For LHC I generally request slightly more credit than I get so I have to assume I'm not hosing anyone. I would actually try 4.09, but I seem to have gotten rid of 4.06 to reinstall just in case :(

AFAIK???:

As Far As I Know???

I just love acronyms and figuring them out.

L8R....

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I'm running 4.11 on one of my machines, and it banchmarks the ssame as it did under 4.09. I haven't noticed any real changes to the credit it claims either.

I tried it on the one machine that is connecte to all the projects and was having problems with multi-project cross over. No problems since I loaded it.

SETI@home - 2004-10-03 00:33:04 - Message from server: No work available (your core client is out of date - please upgrade)

Looks like 4.09+ is required now...wish me luck :)

Hi

Yes its true, i installed 4.11 from Alpha.

Works fine so far, with 52 WUs left and seti 4.03.

greetz Mike