UPPPPss whit astropulse work take too much time finish a work example: in my quad core 2.4GHz each seti work takes aprox 2 hours, for astropulse work takes aprox 36 hours, someone can explain it and would know if this can reduce. thanks

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Guillermo -

Until the rollout is stable, the optimizers can't really look at reducing the run times. Be thankful that your quad core is able to do them in about 36 hours or so. On my P4 machine with Hyperthreading, it takes about 140 hrs or so.

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Wendy



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Guillermo -

Until the rollout is stable, the optimizers can't really look at reducing the run times. Be thankful that your quad core is able to do them in about 36 hours or so. On my P4 machine with Hyperthreading, it takes about 140 hrs or so.

Upppss Uppss OUh but seti dont take this intoaccount and more this time reduce the average credit or not?

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SETIHOME USER SINCE 1999

Is there someone out there can help me. I have just been sent an Astropulse WU,which I did apply for,it was just there,for over 395 hours!of work, to be completed by 10Sept. 08. with my 633CPU impossible. Furthermore I have been trying for 4 days to upload completed WU. Keep getting same message that server is down. I have already cancelled one Seti WU as it seemed to be going into some sort of loop.(Time remainng was going backwards! about 2 minutes and then forward about 90 seconds, so time to complete WU would have been endless.

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Angelique - Everyone has been having issues uploading completed work for at least the past 2 days. SETI is aware but they don't have an ETA yet. If you could post a link to the WU in question that seems to be having an issue, we can try to take a look at it. Also, if you could post any relevant messages from the messages tab of the BOINC Manager, that would be helpful as well.

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Wendy



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And the other thing about the astropulse work is the credits. Last WU took 30 times the amount of seconds as a normal WU. No big deal accept for the fact that the credits claimed is 45% of what it should be by normal WU standards. AND the only other astropulse WU cruncked granted me ZERO credits. My RAC has dropped by 1000 in the last 2 weeks. Dont mind the time but PLEASE make the credits equal.

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And the other thing about the astropulse work is the credits. Last WU took 30 times the amount of seconds as a normal WU. No big deal accept for the fact that the credits claimed is 45% of what it should be by normal WU standards. AND the only other astropulse WU cruncked granted me ZERO credits. My RAC has dropped by 1000 in the last 2 weeks. Dont mind the time but PLEASE make the credits equal.

The zero credit issue will be fixed by Eric as soon as things are straightened out with the servers and you will get credit retroactively for it.

SETI workunits were overpaying for the last 6 months or so and have recently been dropped by about 10% to correct this issue. The AstroPulse credit granting is actually more accurate than SETI's as I understand it from Eric's post.

And the other thing about the astropulse work is the credits. Last WU took 30 times the amount of seconds as a normal WU. No big deal accept for the fact that the credits claimed is 45% of what it should be by normal WU standards. AND the only other astropulse WU cruncked granted me ZERO credits. My RAC has dropped by 1000 in the last 2 weeks. Dont mind the time but PLEASE make the credits equal.

The zero credit issue will be fixed by Eric as soon as things are straightened out with the servers and you will get credit retroactively for it.

SETI workunits were overpaying for the last 6 months or so and have recently been dropped by about 10% to correct this issue. The AstroPulse credit granting is actually more accurate than SETI's as I understand it from Eric's post.

Thank you for your response. Helps clear things up.

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Astropulse is now a choice. See Seti@Home preferences, Run only the selected applications.

Default is both applications on.
Select which ones you do or don't want to run from here.

Save changes to the web-site, then open BOINC Manager->Advanced view->Projects tab->Select Seti->Click Update. This will make sure your BOINC knows to only fetch your choice of work at the next scheduler interval. Work must be available at that time, of course.

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Astropulse is now a choice. See Seti@Home preferences, Run only the selected applications.

Default is both applications on.
Select which ones you do or don't want to run from here.

Save changes to the web-site, then open BOINC Manager->Advanced view->Projects tab->Select Seti->Click Update. This will make sure your BOINC knows to only fetch your choice of work at the next scheduler interval. Work must be available at that time, of course.

ok, soooooooooo, if we change back and leave astropulse this will speed up the process?

Astropulse is now a choice. See Seti@Home preferences, Run only the selected applications.

Default is both applications on.
Select which ones you do or don't want to run from here.

Save changes to the web-site, then open BOINC Manager->Advanced view->Projects tab->Select Seti->Click Update. This will make sure your BOINC knows to only fetch your choice of work at the next scheduler interval. Work must be available at that time, of course.

ok, soooooooooo, if we change back and leave astropulse this will speed up the process?

It won't speed up anything, it just selects if you want to run AstroPulse workunits (which are much longer than SETI) or if you want to run SETI workunits (which are much shorter than AP).

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Bum...
I too logged on here to find out what's with the astropulse units (I'm afraid I'm not as current as I used to be so I knew nothing about Astropulse).

I was therefore a little surprised to see them in my list of Seti@home WUs and I got a bit panicky... and then I spotted how long they were taking.

I also have a Quad core 2.4G with 4Gig RAM and my seti WUs take around 2 and a bit hours (like Guillermo's) but the first AP WU took around 40 hrs and the second is heading for around 45 hrs. If you guys say that's normal / good then fair-enough... if that's what it takes then so-be-it.

I'm not even bothered about any credit issues... I've always just been in it for the science (but I think the credit system is fantastic and can agree with the issues raised here)... so I was more concerned with the time aspect.

Are AP WUs filled with >20 times the average Seti WUs 'value' in scientific return to explain the >20 times longer they take to process? If so then there is no problem for me... but if not then I'd rather choose to process just Seti WUs with a clear conscience rather than just ditch AP WUs without knowing.

If anyone can let me know then that would be peachy

Thanks in advance,
Mark

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There are 10 types of people in this world... those that understand binary and those that don't.

Astropulse FAQ as linked to from the About menu.

Edit your project preferences if you do not want to get Astropulse. Save changes to the web site. The next time BOINC contacts Seti, it'll download those new settings.

Also read up on any of the other threads on the subject in the Number Crunching forum.

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Thankyou Jord... that is just the kind of thing I had in mind so thanks for the direct links (ps... love your avatar)

Edit Well if AP allows 22.5 days max for a CPU to tackle a single Unit then I really am blessed with being able to churn them out every couple of days. The enhanced searching aspect of AP sounds very intriguing and as I have wondered myself from time to time whether any of the 'noise' that Seti sifts through would be of interest I'm all for this approach.

Thanks again and it's refreshing to know that my first PC back in about '98/'99 (an old DX2 66 with 16Meg RAM) used to take well over 150 hours per WU... that sobering thought should make us all wonder what the fuss is all about surely... yeah right... that's what is so incredible about Moore's Law and how quickly we get used to things ;)

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There are 10 types of people in this world... those that understand binary and those that don't.

Astropulse is now a choice. See Seti@Home preferences, Run only the selected applications.

Default is both applications on.
Select which ones you do or don't want to run from here.

Save changes to the web-site, then open BOINC Manager->Advanced view->Projects tab->Select Seti->Click Update. This will make sure your BOINC knows to only fetch your choice of work at the next scheduler interval. Work must be available at that time, of course.

Thank you ageless for that info..

How much credit should the Astropulse work units be requesting and receiving? Does anybody actually know this? They seem to be short on both units.

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Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....

This is what I have been seeing on the BETA side of the house - my task list. Wish I could figure out how to get this to show more cleanly.


4405169 1312493 21 Aug 2008 10:59:18 UTC 28 Aug 2008 11:27:54 UTC Over Success Done 574,917.40 686.54 pending
4401847 1310880 13 Aug 2008 11:20:27 UTC 27 Aug 2008 19:30:00 UTC Over Success Done 536,083.20 673.70 673.70
4368819 1298840 29 Jul 2008 23:35:09 UTC 8 Aug 2008 15:23:31 UTC Over Success Done 401,250.70 679.66 679.66
4243999 1249616 25 Jul 2008 19:46:40 UTC 2 Aug 2008 19:32:19 UTC Over Success Done 592,918.00 684.33 684.33

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Wendy



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How much credit should the Astropulse work units be requesting and receiving? Does anybody actually know this? They seem to be short on both units.

Seemed to start off about 722 on Live and currently down to about 714 IIRC (not at my machine ATM but that is what is showing from those still pending validation).

F.

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