AstroPulse Ghost WUs !!!

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-ShEm- Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Feb 00 Posts: 139 Credit: 4,129,448 RAC: 0	Message 793211 - Posted: 5 Aug 2008, 11:57:06 UTC Same thing is happening on Einstein (ending of S5R3, starting of S5R4) for those running power/beta apps with app_info.xml there. On one pc I deleted Einstein app_info.xml and Einstein sent the new S5R4 app and resent the "lost" new S5R4 WU, but the resend feature is disabled here... ID: 793211 ·

Fred J. Verster Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Apr 04 Posts: 3252 Credit: 31,903,643 RAC: 0	Message 793230 - Posted: 5 Aug 2008, 12:51:08 UTC - in response to Message 793211. Last modified: 5 Aug 2008, 12:54:28 UTC Same thing is happening on Einstein (ending of S5R3, starting of S5R4) for those running power/beta apps with app_info.xml there. On one pc I deleted Einstein app_info.xml and Einstein sent the new S5R4 app and resent the "lost" new S5R4 WU, but the resend feature is disabled here... Was experimenting with LINUX's UBUNTU 8.04 and did also receive AP WU's! One hour after I installed BOINC 5.10.45, (why 'it'choose that version???) I received the AP units. NO opti app. running now. Will look on my VISTA and XP hosts. I'll follow the conversation on how to disable the AP, if they are 'empty'or ghost's. di 05 aug 2008 13:17:40 CEST\|\|Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site di 05 aug 2008 13:17:40 CEST\|SETI@home\|Temporarily failed download of 17jn08ac.6850.11524.4.8.188: http error di 05 aug 2008 13:17:40 CEST\|SETI@home\|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of 17jn08ac.6850.11524.4.8.188 di 05 aug 2008 13:17:40 CEST\|SETI@home\|Started download of astropulse_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu di 05 aug 2008 13:17:41 CEST\|\|Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down. di 05 aug 2008 13:17:50 CEST\|SETI@home\|Finished download of 17jn08ab.6673.13156.7.8.202 di 05 aug 2008 13:17:50 CEST\|SETI@home\|Started download of ap_graphics_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu di 05 aug 2008 13:18:10 CEST\|SETI@home\|Started upload of 03jn08aa.9449.587906.15.8.232_0_0 di 05 aug 2008 13:18:34 CEST\|SETI@home\|Finished download of ap_graphics_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu di 05 aug 2008 13:18:34 CEST\|SETI@home\|Started download of astropulse_4.35_AUTHORS di 05 aug 2008 13:18:50 CEST\|SETI@home\|Finished download of astropulse_4.35_AUTHORS di 05 aug 2008 13:18:50 CEST\|SETI@home\|Started download of astropulse_4.35_COPYRIGHT di 05 aug 2008 13:19:03 CEST\|SETI@home\|Temporarily failed download of astropulse_4.35_COPYRIGHT: http error di 05 aug 2008 13:19:03 CEST\|SETI@home\|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on download of astropulse_4.35_COPYRIGHT di 05 aug 2008 13:19:03 CEST\|SETI@home\|Started download of astropulse_4.35_COPYING di 05 aug 2008 13:19:53 CEST\|SETI@home\|Finished download of astropulse_4.35_COPYING di 05 aug 2008 13:19:53 CEST\|SETI@home\|Started download of 18jn08aa.4803.21749.3.8.58 di 05 aug 2008 13:20:07 CEST\|SETI@home\|Finished download of astropulse_4.35_i686-pc-linux-gnu di 05 aug 2008 13:20:07 CEST\|SETI@home\|Started download of astropulse_4.35_COPYRIGHT di 05 aug 2008 13:20:10 CEST\|\|Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site di 05 aug 2008 13:20:10 CEST\|SETI@home\|Temporarily failed upload of 03jn08aa.9449.587906.15.8.232_0_0: http error di 05 aug 2008 13:20:10 CEST\|SETI@home\|Backing off 1 min 0 sec on upload of 03jn08aa.9449.587906.15.8.232_0_0 di 05 aug 2008 13:20:11 CEST\|\|Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down. di 05 aug 2008 13:20:13 CEST\|SETI@home\|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 27901 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks di 05 aug 2008 13:20:14 CEST\|SETI@home\|Finished download of astropulse_4.35_COPYRIGHT di 05 aug 2008 13:20:14 CEST\|SETI@home\|Started download of 18jn08aa.4803.21749.3.8.68 ID: 793230 ·

X-Files 27 Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 104 Credit: 111,191,433 RAC: 0	Message 793553 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 4:12:12 UTC No AP listed on manager but on Tasks, I got 1 or 2 for each rigs. partial list (WU): 311408291 310046064 309844413 309842288 310696029 311370867 311366743 309925902 311375523 309400992 310514538 309551720 310693051 309963574 310104129 309256595 309384486 309222257 309696617 310903576 310062836 309218889 311095540 309382551 sorry wingmen... Any final solution yet? ID: 793553 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 793608 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 5:56:38 UTC Last modified: 6 Aug 2008, 5:57:37 UTC Saw a new message on the Frozen Penny, during a work request and subsequent download of new work, that I had not seen before..... Is this a fix to the ghosties? 8/6/2008 12:32:54 AM\|SETI@home\|[error] State file error: missing application astropulse 8/6/2008 12:32:54 AM\|SETI@home\|[error] Can't handle task ap_02jl08aa_B3_P0_00320_20080805_06835.wu in scheduler reply 8/6/2008 12:32:54 AM\|SETI@home\|[error] State file error: missing task ap_02jl08aa_B3_P0_00320_20080805_06835.wu 8/6/2008 12:32:54 AM\|SETI@home\|[error] Can't handle task ap_02jl08aa_B3_P0_00320_20080805_06835.wu_0 in scheduler reply "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster ID: 793608 ·

JDWhale Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 6 Apr 99 Posts: 921 Credit: 21,935,817 RAC: 3	Message 793611 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 6:00:09 UTC - in response to Message 793608. Saw a new message on the Frozen Penny, during a work request and subsequent download of new work, that I had not seen before..... Is this a fix to the ghosties? 8/6/2008 12:32:54 AM\|SETI@home\|[error] State file error: missing application astropulse 8/6/2008 12:32:54 AM\|SETI@home\|[error] Can't handle task ap_02jl08aa_B3_P0_00320_20080805_06835.wu in scheduler reply 8/6/2008 12:32:54 AM\|SETI@home\|[error] State file error: missing task ap_02jl08aa_B3_P0_00320_20080805_06835.wu 8/6/2008 12:32:54 AM\|SETI@home\|[error] Can't handle task ap_02jl08aa_B3_P0_00320_20080805_06835.wu_0 in scheduler reply 'fraid not, that means you were just assigned another ghost. ID: 793611 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 793619 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 6:22:00 UTC - in response to Message 793611. Saw a new message on the Frozen Penny, during a work request and subsequent download of new work, that I had not seen before..... Is this a fix to the ghosties? 8/6/2008 12:32:54 AM\|SETI@home\|[error] State file error: missing application astropulse 8/6/2008 12:32:54 AM\|SETI@home\|[error] Can't handle task ap_02jl08aa_B3_P0_00320_20080805_06835.wu in scheduler reply 8/6/2008 12:32:54 AM\|SETI@home\|[error] State file error: missing task ap_02jl08aa_B3_P0_00320_20080805_06835.wu 8/6/2008 12:32:54 AM\|SETI@home\|[error] Can't handle task ap_02jl08aa_B3_P0_00320_20080805_06835.wu_0 in scheduler reply 'fraid not, that means you were just assigned another ghost. Oh drat!! I had not noticed the message before, and was hoping Eric had plugged some new code into the scheduler during today's outage..... "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster ID: 793619 ·

Grant (SSSF) Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304	Message 793647 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 8:35:12 UTC Just noticed i got one as well. 6/08/2008 17:47:50\|SETI@home\|[error] State file error: missing application astropulse 6/08/2008 17:47:50\|SETI@home\|[error] Can't handle task ap_29fe08af_B4_P1_00367_20080805_17331.wu in scheduler reply 6/08/2008 17:47:50\|SETI@home\|[error] State file error: missing task ap_29fe08af_B4_P1_00367_20080805_17331.wu 6/08/2008 17:47:50\|SETI@home\|[error] Can't handle task ap_29fe08af_B4_P1_00367_20080805_17331.wu_2 in scheduler reply Running the AK V8 with the default supplied app_info.xml file. Grant Darwin NT ID: 793647 ·

Logan Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Jan 07 Posts: 743 Credit: 918,353 RAC: 0	Message 793689 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 11:22:20 UTC I got two of them but I donÃ‚Â´t want to run AP (by the moment). Sorry to wingmen. Best regards. Logan. BOINC FAQ Service (Ahora, tambiÃƒÂ©n disponible en EspaÃƒÂ±ol/Now available in Spanish) ID: 793689 ·

jason_gee Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0	Message 793706 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 12:51:27 UTC Last modified: 6 Aug 2008, 12:53:56 UTC LoL, I feel kindof cheated not getting these, what makes you guys so special? [Whoops spoke too soon.. found one ....] "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. ID: 793706 ·

Sutaru Tsureku Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5	Message 793735 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 14:23:54 UTC - in response to Message 793706. ... [Whoops spoke too soon.. found one ....] :-D I have also a few AP-ghost-WUs.. ;-) ID: 793735 ·

jason_gee Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0	Message 793738 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 14:31:17 UTC Darn, no time to make the adjustments to my machines 'til the weekend, but I suppose this may be fixed by then. Guess I'd better find more time to start looking more seriously at the AP code too :S "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. ID: 793738 ·

Sutaru Tsureku Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5	Message 793742 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 14:46:13 UTC - in response to Message 793738. Last modified: 6 Aug 2008, 14:52:10 UTC ... Guess I'd better find more time to start looking more seriously at the AP code too :S Thanks.. it would be nice..! :-D If the ratio 'Enhanced-WU = optimization = Credit = AP-WU' will be the same I want to crunch AP also.. I guess other members think the same? BTW. Hope the server will be fixed soon, because of the AP-ghost-WUs.. EDIT: BTW.#2 The AP-WUs have different crunchingtimes like the Enhanced-WUs (AR)? ID: 793742 ·

jason_gee Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0	Message 793747 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 15:11:29 UTC - in response to Message 793742. BTW.#2 The AP-WUs have different crunchingtimes like the Enhanced-WUs (AR)? By my very limited understanding (so far) no, they all have the same processing, but I only half-heard/read that somewhere and it may have been referring to something else... "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. ID: 793747 ·

Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874	Message 793748 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 15:17:44 UTC - in response to Message 793747. BTW.#2 The AP-WUs have different crunchingtimes like the Enhanced-WUs (AR)? By my very limited understanding (so far) no, they all have the same processing, but I only half-heard/read that somewhere and it may have been referring to something else... From what we've seen in Beta, the runtimes are very consistent - no AR to vary, and hence no AR variation. ID: 793748 ·

jason_gee Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0	Message 793750 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 15:20:51 UTC - in response to Message 793748. From what we've seen in Beta, the runtimes are very consistent - no AR to vary, and hence no AR variation. That should simplify optimisation strategy somewhat, cheers. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. ID: 793750 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 793752 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 15:21:51 UTC - in response to Message 793748. BTW.#2 The AP-WUs have different crunchingtimes like the Enhanced-WUs (AR)? By my very limited understanding (so far) no, they all have the same processing, but I only half-heard/read that somewhere and it may have been referring to something else... From what we've seen in Beta, the runtimes are very consistent - no AR to vary, and hence no AR variation. That's gonna take some of the excitement out of it....LOL. I kinda like the 'box of chocolates' you get with MB.....you just never know what you are gonna get. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster ID: 793752 ·

Logan Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Jan 07 Posts: 743 Credit: 918,353 RAC: 0	Message 793774 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 16:25:20 UTC When an optimised app for AP...? I think soon as later...:) Logan. BOINC FAQ Service (Ahora, tambiÃƒÂ©n disponible en EspaÃƒÂ±ol/Now available in Spanish) ID: 793774 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 793780 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 16:31:08 UTC - in response to Message 793774. When an optimised app for AP...? I think soon as later...:) Jason has already posted that it is going to be some time....don't hold your breath on this one yet. Before any time is spent on optimizing, they want to be sure that the stock app is stable and no more code changes are going to be made before spending the hours and hours of time and testing required to do any possible optimizing. It WILL be looked into, but it will not happed short term. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster ID: 793780 ·

Logan Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Jan 07 Posts: 743 Credit: 918,353 RAC: 0	Message 793783 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 16:48:53 UTC - in response to Message 793780. When an optimised app for AP...? I think soon as later...:) Jason has already posted that it is going to be some time....don't hold your breath on this one yet. Before any time is spent on optimizing, they want to be sure that the stock app is stable and no more code changes are going to be made before spending the hours and hours of time and testing required to do any possible optimizing. It WILL be looked into, but it will not happed short term. I know, my friend. And becouse that I should still running S@H Enhanced and not Astropulse... (by the moment)... Best regards. Logan. BOINC FAQ Service (Ahora, tambiÃƒÂ©n disponible en EspaÃƒÂ±ol/Now available in Spanish) ID: 793783 ·

Sutaru Tsureku Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5	Message 793852 - Posted: 6 Aug 2008, 20:39:21 UTC - in response to Message 793752. Last modified: 6 Aug 2008, 21:02:16 UTC ... I kinda like the 'box of chocolates' you get with MB.....you just never know what you are gonna get. Hmm.. that remember me.. Forrest Gump with Tom Hanks.. nice.. nice.. :-D 'My mom always says: Life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you get.' ID: 793852 ·

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