I am getting ready to get at least one quad if not two quad cores to work on S@H. I have two questions. The first is how the heck do I check the CPU temp and what kind of cooling do I need for the quads to avoid overheating? Baring power failures and a standard once biweekly shutdown reset for the os it will run 24/7.

The second question is I have to use a wireless connection to get internet. The antenna is a usb cable one. Should I get a hub of some kind, download boinc on the new computers, and connect my three computers to the hub (can't connect them to the router due to there being other computers on it.) or is there a way just use the current copy of boinc on my main computer to manage the one/two new ones plus my main computer?





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I am getting ready to get at least one quad if not two quad cores to work on S@H. I have two questions. The first is how the heck do I check the CPU temp and what kind of cooling do I need for the quads to avoid overheating? Baring power failures and a standard once biweekly shutdown reset for the os it will run 24/7.

The second question is I have to use a wireless connection to get internet. The antenna is a usb cable one. Should I get a hub of some kind, download boinc on the new computers, and connect my three computers to the hub (can't connect them to the router due to there being other computers on it.) or is there a way just use the current copy of boinc on my main computer to manage the one/two new ones plus my main computer?

Most motherboards have temperature monitoring utilities, and there are quite a few "out there" as well. Unless you overclock, a good heatsink is probably overkill -- and overkill is good. Others will have more detail.

Mainly, I'm going to answer your network question.

There is nothing wrong with using wireless devices -- and USB specifically since you can get the radio away from the back of the system. The system case can make a good shield.

... but if the ports on the router are "full" you can always get an 8 port ethernet switch, unplug one device from the router, plug in the switch, and plug everything into the switch.

The BOINC GUI can connect to BOINC running on other computers -- works fine.

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Get a copy of Core Temp 0.99 that will allow you to keep an eye on the core temps.
Cooling has been talked about a LOT here and I know I suffer from the lack of it - As for the
hardware to keep your CPU cool decide if you want air or liquid. I have not gone down the liquid
path yet, but I am getting ready. Root around on this board and you can find tons of cooling
info. Bottom line, like money and ammo - more is better. Check out a core contact freezer from
sunbeam tech and never look back - perhaps the best air cooler out there.

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Real Temp is very accurate for 45nm processors, but should be calibrated.

edit for wording.

How about SpeedFan? I use an unoverclocked Q6600 and temps get into the low 60s (but core temps in high 50s). I do use a decent aircooler, about 100 millimeters cubed. I don't think it would be wise to skimp on a cooler with a Core-2 Quad. I'm thinking about getting a 120mm fan to get all that hot air out of the case. The other case which has a D950 uses a watercooler and is not as warm (but the D950 is just as warm, possibly slightly warmer). Heat is ejected right out the back, by air fanned through many metallic leaves.

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How about SpeedFan? I use an unoverclocked Q6600 and temps get into the low 60s (but core temps in high 50s). I do use a decent aircooler, about 100 millimeters cubed. I don't think it would be wise to skimp on a cooler with a Core-2 Quad. I'm thinking about getting a 120mm fan to get all that hot air out of the case. The other case which has a D950 uses a watercooler and is not as warm (but the D950 is just as warm, possibly slightly warmer). Heat is ejected right out the back, by air fanned through many metallic leaves.

I like Speedfan - control the case fans with it too - but I calibrated it using a calibrated version of RealTemp as the standard. This works as I'm interested in the core temps at 100% load only - the only time the cores get to cool down is when I switch off to vac out the dust bunnies.

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How about SpeedFan? I use an unoverclocked Q6600 and temps get into the low 60s (but core temps in high 50s). I do use a decent aircooler, about 100 millimeters cubed. I don't think it would be wise to skimp on a cooler with a Core-2 Quad. I'm thinking about getting a 120mm fan to get all that hot air out of the case. The other case which has a D950 uses a watercooler and is not as warm (but the D950 is just as warm, possibly slightly warmer). Heat is ejected right out the back, by air fanned through many metallic leaves.

I like Speedfan - control the case fans with it too - but I calibrated it using a calibrated version of RealTemp as the standard. This works as I'm interested in the core temps at 100% load only - the only time the cores get to cool down is when I switch off to vac out the dust bunnies.

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Yeah them evil varmint dust bunnies;), A good vacuum cleaner is needed from time to time. And Yeah I like speedfan too.

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I am getting ready to get at least one quad if not two quad cores to work on S@H. I have two questions. The first is how the heck do I check the CPU temp and what kind of cooling do I need for the quads to avoid overheating? Baring power failures and a standard once biweekly shutdown reset for the os it will run 24/7.

The second question is I have to use a wireless connection to get internet. The antenna is a usb cable one. Should I get a hub of some kind, download boinc on the new computers, and connect my three computers to the hub (can't connect them to the router due to there being other computers on it.) or is there a way just use the current copy of boinc on my main computer to manage the one/two new ones plus my main computer?

Most motherboards have temperature monitoring utilities, and there are quite a few "out there" as well. Unless you overclock, a good heatsink is probably overkill -- and overkill is good. Others will have more detail.

Mainly, I'm going to answer your network question.

There is nothing wrong with using wireless devices -- and USB specifically since you can get the radio away from the back of the system. The system case can make a good shield.

... but if the ports on the router are "full" you can always get an 8 port ethernet switch, unplug one device from the router, plug in the switch, and plug everything into the switch.

The BOINC GUI can connect to BOINC running on other computers -- works fine.

but here is the catch: The router is not under my control I can not do anything with the router. It must all be on my end.

And if the motherboard has it how do I access it?

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but here is the catch: The router is not under my control I can not do anything with the router. It must all be on my end.

Do you have permission to connect through the router?

If you're "playing through" without permission, I'd think twice.

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but here is the catch: The router is not under my control I can not do anything with the router. It must all be on my end.

Do you have permission to connect through the router?

If you're "playing through" without permission, I'd think twice.

It is my family's router. I just have no control over it. Part of the reason why I can't connect into it is there is usually 2 on it routinely with another one that is on less routinely but more than sparingly and then the last one is reserved for my brother's computer when he comes home. Plus I am located in a different building from the router and it is at least 300 feet from me.

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but here is the catch: The router is not under my control I can not do anything with the router. It must all be on my end.

Do you have permission to connect through the router?

If you're "playing through" without permission, I'd think twice.

It is my family's router. I just have no control over it. Part of the reason why I can't connect into it is there is usually 2 on it routinely with another one that is on less routinely but more than sparingly and then the last one is reserved for my brother's computer when he comes home. Plus I am located in a different building from the router and it is at least 300 feet from me.

The number of physical connections on the router has nothing to do with the maximum number of simultaneous users.

I'm connected to a router right now with one port, just one.

It's connected to a 16 port switch -- in my other building.

That switch is connected to an 8 port in this building.

Plug the "4 port" router into an 8 port switch, and you have room for 10 people hooked up simultaneously (it takes one port on each device to hook the two together).

But, maybe I'm missing something. If you can't get a wire between the buildings, and you have a USB wireless card that works, just get one for each computer.

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okay I see where the confusion is. It will only let us have one "address" per port. All of the ports are assigned already. Why it was set up that way I don't know but I can't change it so...... So do I need some kind of hub thing on my end and a converter to use the single port that I have or what?


And what about checking the cpu temp? I don't really want to download a third party program if there is one already in vista.

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you should be able to get a router, plug its connection for internet into your family's hub, then you can have all the ports you want on your end of your router

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as I said before: I HAVE NO CONTROL OF THE ROUTER OR WHAT IS CONNECTED TO IT. All I have control over is my connection TO the router. All I have is a usb cable Wireless antenna. So is there a hub or something that will accept the usb cable or what?

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i have seen a usb to ethernet adapter, not sure if that would work or set one computer to share the wifi connection to its ethernet port, then plug that into a router and connect anything you want

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Could you attach a second wireless router to the original router as an access point? I've never tried to do it but it seems like it should be possible.

Have the new router get it's IP from the first router, and the second router Would give out its own IP range to the machines connected to it.

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Could you attach a second wireless router to the original router as an access point? I've never tried to do it but it seems like it should be possible.

Have the new router get it's IP from the first router, and the second router Would give out its own IP range to the machines connected to it.

so I don't repeat myself see Message 789260

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Could you attach a second wireless router to the original router as an access point? I've never tried to do it but it seems like it should be possible.

Have the new router get it's IP from the first router, and the second router Would give out its own IP range to the machines connected to it.

so I don't repeat myself see Message 789260

So then what you are asking is impossible. You said:

as I said before: I HAVE NO CONTROL OF THE ROUTER OR WHAT IS CONNECTED TO IT. All I have control over is my connection TO the router. All I have is a usb cable Wireless antenna. So is there a hub or something that will accept the usb cable or what?

But if you were to buy a hub "or something", they would have to work with the original router by being plugged into it. If you cannot add or change anything on the existing router, then the answer is no, you cannot buy a hub or switch to fix your problem.

Could you attach a second wireless router to the original router as an access point? I've never tried to do it but it seems like it should be possible.

Have the new router get it's IP from the first router, and the second router Would give out its own IP range to the machines connected to it.

so I don't repeat myself see Message 789260

So then what you are asking is impossible. You said:

as I said before: I HAVE NO CONTROL OF THE ROUTER OR WHAT IS CONNECTED TO IT. All I have control over is my connection TO the router. All I have is a usb cable Wireless antenna. So is there a hub or something that will accept the usb cable or what?

But if you were to buy a hub "or something", they would have to work with the original router by being plugged into it. If you cannot add or change anything on the existing router, then the answer is no, you cannot buy a hub or switch to fix your problem.

Ah I see what you mean.

I just have one connection to the router. Anything we do must go through that one connection. I have found out through some private messages that each computer would need its own ip address and thus would need multiple antennas to connect to the router. And since I can't destealth the router to set up new connections I have to drop the idea getting multiple computers.


Now WHAT ABOUT CHECKING CPU TEMP? I really would prefer not to get a 3rd party program to do it. I would much rather have something within Vista.

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Could you attach a second wireless router to the original router as an access point? I've never tried to do it but it seems like it should be possible.

Have the new router get it's IP from the first router, and the second router Would give out its own IP range to the machines connected to it.

so I don't repeat myself see Message 789260

So then what you are asking is impossible. You said:

as I said before: I HAVE NO CONTROL OF THE ROUTER OR WHAT IS CONNECTED TO IT. All I have control over is my connection TO the router. All I have is a usb cable Wireless antenna. So is there a hub or something that will accept the usb cable or what?

But if you were to buy a hub "or something", they would have to work with the original router by being plugged into it. If you cannot add or change anything on the existing router, then the answer is no, you cannot buy a hub or switch to fix your problem.

Ah I see what you mean.

I just have one connection to the router. Anything we do must go through that one connection. I have found out through some private messages that each computer would need its own ip address and thus would need multiple antennas to connect to the router. And since I can't destealth the router to set up new connections I have to drop the idea getting multiple computers.

Why would you have to de-stealth it? What do you mean by "de-stealthing"? Do you mean you'd have to reveal the SSID in order for new machines to connect? If so, this is incorrect. You can manually enter the SSID on each machine along with the password. As long as everything is correct, you wouldn't have to do anything on the router - just make sure each new machine has its own wireless connection.

Now WHAT ABOUT CHECKING CPU TEMP? I really would prefer not to get a 3rd party program to do it. I would much rather have something within Vista.

Vista has no mechanism for checking CPU temps natively within the OS and then reporting the findings to the user. A third party program is your only option.