Could we *please* have a nice GUI which allows you to control the client in much the same way that the Windows GUI does? Pretty please? With sugar on top? :D

Seriously... The *nix client is pretty limited because you *have* to do everything from the command-line, which is not nearly as intuitive as the Windows GUI. Please put some work into getting the *nix GUI working!

You might have some luck with BOINCView running under WINE. It's not stable for me, but others have had reasonable luck with it. Once I get back from my business trip in late October, I'll be able to spend some time working on a native RPC Linux app.

Also, there's a new multi-platform GUI being developed by the BOINC folks. Aside from RPC capabilities, the new GUI should be pretty comfortable:

Screenshot: http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/boinc_alpha/download/newgui.PNG
Thread: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=4818

> You might have some luck with BOINCView running under WINE. It's not stable
> for me, but others have had reasonable luck with it. Once I get back from my
> business trip in late October, I'll be able to spend some time working on a
> native RPC Linux app.
>
>
BOINCprog 1.1.1 works fine for me with both seti@home and climateprediction.

> > You might have some luck with BOINCView running under WINE. It's not
> stable
> > for me, but others have had reasonable luck with it. Once I get back from
> my
> > business trip in late October, I'll be able to spend some time working on
> a
> > native RPC Linux app.
> >
> >
> BOINCprog 1.1.1 works fine for me with both seti@home and climateprediction.
>
>
Is BOINCprog a native *nix app or is it running under WINE or something?

> > > You might have some luck with BOINCView running under WINE. It's
> not
> > stable
> > > for me, but others have had reasonable luck with it. Once I get back
> from
> > my
> > > business trip in late October, I'll be able to spend some time
> working on
> > a
> > > native RPC Linux app.
> > >
> > >
> > BOINCprog 1.1.1 works fine for me with both seti@home and
> climateprediction.
> >
> >
> Is BOINCprog a native *nix app or is it running under WINE or something?
>
>
Runs on my SuSE Linux 9.1 without any problem. I found it at
http://www2.gol.com/users/trane/programming/programming.html

> > > BOINCprog 1.1.1 works fine for me with both seti@home and
> > climateprediction.
> > >
> > >
> > Is BOINCprog a native *nix app or is it running under WINE or something?

BOINCprog is a native Linux app written in Kylix 3.0 Open Edition.

> Runs on my SuSE Linux 9.1 without any problem. I found it at
> http://www2.gol.com/users/trane/programming/programming.html

I'm glad to hear that it's working well for you. :-)

trane

BOINCprog 1.1.2 has been released at Trane's Programming Page. This is a minor maintenance release that fixes segfaults for systems running the 2.6.8+ kernels compiled with the exec-shield patch (e.g., Red Hat Fedora Core 2).

trane

You could try boincgui. http://www.davidzilch.co.uk/boincgui/
It isn't fully there yet, but it is a good start.

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> You could try boincgui. http://www.davidzilch.co.uk/boincgui/
> It isn't fully there yet, but it is a good start.

Unfortunately, it doesn't correctly report WU states for BOINC 4.x clients. It works very nicely for the 3.x clients, though.

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You could try KBoincSpy 0.8:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kboincspy/
It requires you install KDE 3.3 (if you don't have it already), but in my ultra-biased opinion (I'm the author) it's totally worth the trouble.

- Roberto

I tried the kboincspy but it is configured for the 3.3 kde...not the 3.2 that ships with the 10.1 mandrake. I tried to update kde to the later package and ended up trashing my system so badly I had to re-install. Nothing worked right.

So, I guess we linux folk will be without a decent gui for quite a while longer. If you are a windows user you can have anything you want. Linux users are the stepchildren and get what comes along much later. And it will be only half as nice as the windows versions.

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>
> So, I guess we linux folk will be without a decent gui for quite a while
> longer. If you are a windows user you can have anything you want. Linux users
> are the stepchildren and get what comes along much later. And it will be only
> half as nice as the windows versions.

Here's something that may work for some people. The fellow who writes the third party add-on BoincView, also has a PHP application you can hitch into a web server and monitor and control your Boinc projects. Obviously you have to have a web server running on your system that supports PHP. I have one on my Linux box so it was a simple case of just dropping it in. I'd give you the URL to mine but it would not do you any good since I've added password protection to it for obvious reasons. Through it I can also monitor and control the Win98 machine on my home network that also has boinc running on it.

BoincView is at http://boincview.amanheis.de/. Go there, click the Download link on the left side of the page, then scroll to the bottom of the download page for a link to the PHP code.

Charlie

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> So, I guess we linux folk will be without a decent gui for quite a while
> longer. If you are a windows user you can have anything you want. Linux users
> are the stepchildren and get what comes along much later. And it will be only
> half as nice as the windows versions.

While I sympathize with you Mandrake Linux users, the "doesn't work for (some) Mandrake users, hence it doesn't work for all linux users" characterization is unfair.
This is a non-exhaustive list of linux versions that come with KDE 3.3 out of the box:
SuSE 9.2
Fedora Core 3
Gentoo 2004.3
Debian sid
Yoper 2.1
This is a list of linux versions for which there are official (i.e. created by the same people who make the distro) KDE 3.3 packages on ftp.kde.org:
Conectiva 10
Fedora Core 2
SuSE 8.2
SuSE 9.0
SuSE 9.1
Yoper 2.0
In addition, on the same site there are unofficial (i.e. created by 3rd parties) packages for:
Slackware 9.1
Slackware 10.0
And this considering linux only. If I were to list also non-linux OSes, I would mention that, for example, FreeBSD 5.3 comes with KDE 3.3.0, and that on the KDE ftp site you can also find packages for Solaris 8, Solaris 9, and Solaris 10.

If you're a MandrakeClub member, there are KDE 3.3.1 packages on MandrakeClub. If these don't work, if I were you, after paying a $60/year (or more) subscription, I'd DEMAND Mandrake to fix them.

On a personal note, in my many years as developer of KSetiSpy, packaging for Mandrake have always created me 10 times as many problems as for any other distro. This latest experience with KBoincSpy has been the last straw. I won't offer Mandrake packages in the future for neither KSetiSpy nor KBoincSpy.

- Roberto

> > So, I guess we linux folk will be without a decent gui for quite a while
> > longer. If you are a windows user you can have anything you want. Linux
> users
> > are the stepchildren and get what comes along much later. And it will be
> only
> > half as nice as the windows versions.
>
> While I sympathize with you Mandrake Linux users, the "doesn't work for (some)
> Mandrake users, hence it doesn't work for all linux users" characterization is
> unfair.
> This is a non-exhaustive list of linux versions that come with KDE 3.3 out of
> the box:
> SuSE 9.2
> Fedora Core 3
> Gentoo 2004.3
> Debian sid
> Yoper 2.1
> This is a list of linux versions for which there are official (i.e. created by
> the same people who make the distro) KDE 3.3 packages on ftp.kde.org:
> Conectiva 10
> Fedora Core 2
> SuSE 8.2
> SuSE 9.0
> SuSE 9.1
> Yoper 2.0
> In addition, on the same site there are unofficial (i.e. created by 3rd
> parties) packages for:
> Slackware 9.1
> Slackware 10.0
> And this considering linux only. If I were to list also non-linux OSes, I
> would mention that, for example, FreeBSD 5.3 comes with KDE 3.3.0, and that on
> the KDE ftp site you can also find packages for Solaris 8, Solaris 9, and
> Solaris 10.
>
> If you're a MandrakeClub member, there are KDE 3.3.1 packages on MandrakeClub.
> If these don't work, if I were you, after paying a $60/year (or more)
> subscription, I'd DEMAND Mandrake to fix them.
>
> On a personal note, in my many years as developer of KSetiSpy, packaging for
> Mandrake have always created me 10 times as many problems as for any other
> distro. This latest experience with KBoincSpy has been the last straw. I won't
> offer Mandrake packages in the future for neither KSetiSpy nor KBoincSpy.
>
> - Roberto
>
>Thank you for your reply. I don't use the other linux distros. I have tried suse but it did not recognize much of my hardware so I returned to MDK. I am sure that there are many trained and experienced MDK users who have successfully migrated to the 3.3.0 KDE but every time I have tried to install using URPMI it would let me have only *part* of the complete package and then the 3.3.0 would not work correctly with the 3.2.0. Eventually I would have to re-install just to have my system back up and running. I use my computer for work and school so I can not afford to have it down and I really don't need to loose what I have stored on it. I make regular back-ups of my most important material. Running BOINC is not a priority for me but I try to dedicate some of my computer to different community projects. Setiathome, Foldingathome, etc.. If I have to give all that up to keep my computer running correctly then that is what I will do. I have quit using BOINC several times in the past already and ran more than 1 instance of setiathome or (since I have a dual processor) run seti on 1 and folding on the other. BOINC is *supposed* to be the future of distributed services and I just wanted to do my part. If BOINC and their programmers *can't* get everything working right (gui included) for linux then I guess I'll just have to drop out completely. I hate to since I *like* doing things to help the *community* but having it run in the background and not being able to keep an eye on it is not wise from a security standpoint. Also, I like to be able to keep up with the stats so I can know when to change from one project (i.e. setiathome) to a different project (i.e. foldingathome). It is a sad thing to see you stop your programming because of problems with one linux distribution. I think you take things too personal. No one is *blaming* you. Most of the *complaints* are to the BOINC staff who I thought were supposed to be preparing the *future of distributed software*. I guess I am expecting a finished project when in reality it is still ALPHA software.

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> It is a sad thing to see you stop your programming because of problems with
> one linux distribution.

Where did I say that? Please re-read what I wrote. I'll stop offering packages for Mandrake. Of course I'll continue developing KBoincSpy. And of course I'll continue offering packages for some major distros, like Fedora, SuSE and Slackware. I just won't offering packages for Mandrake anymore. Mandrake users will have to download the source and compile it themselves.

- Roberto

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> > It is a sad thing to see you stop your programming because of problems
> with
> > one linux distribution.
>
> Where did I say that? Please re-read what I wrote. I'll stop offering packages
> for Mandrake. Of course I'll continue developing KBoincSpy. And of course I'll
> continue offering packages for some major distros, like Fedora, SuSE and
> Slackware. I just won't offering packages for Mandrake anymore. Mandrake users
> will have to download the source and compile it themselves.
>
> - Roberto
>
>My mistake in reading. What exactly do you have issues with in the MDK distribution if you don't mind my asking? I have been using linux for several years but in a lot of ways I am still newbie I guess. Tell me some good reasons for my own personal learning experience. If they are really good reasons I may change distributions.

Thanks and sorry for mis-reading.

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> You might have some luck with BOINCView running under WINE. It's not stable
> for me, but others have had reasonable luck with it. Once I get back from my
> business trip in late October, I'll be able to spend some time working on a
> native RPC Linux app.
>
>I belive the GUI for Linux is finished !!
I´m waiting for the offical relais !!

look at : http://boinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/


November 21, 2004
We have developed a GUI for the core client. It's similar to the old Windows GUI but is implemented using wxWidgets so it runs on all platforms. It offers new features such as the ability to suspend/resume projects and results, and project-specific web links. It uses a socket-based GUI RPC mechanism, which makes it possible to develop other GUIs, including ones that control many hosts.

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> > You might have some luck with BOINCView running under WINE. It's not
> stable
> > for me, but others have had reasonable luck with it. Once I get back from
> my
> > business trip in late October, I'll be able to spend some time working on
> a
> > native RPC Linux app.
> >
> >I belive the GUI for Linux is finished !!
> I´m waiting for the offical relais !!
>
> look at : http://boinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/
>
>
> November 21, 2004
> We have developed a GUI for the core client. It's similar to the old Windows
> GUI but is implemented using wxWidgets so it runs on all platforms. It offers
> new features such as the ability to suspend/resume projects and results, and
> project-specific web links. It uses a socket-based GUI RPC mechanism, which
> makes it possible to develop other GUIs, including ones that control many
> hosts.
>

This sounds great. Went and looked at the web page you posted. Tried to follow it to a page where you could download the program mentioned. I could not find it anywhere. If you know of a web site that has it for download please let me know.

Thanks

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> > > You might have some luck with BOINCView running under WINE. It's
> not
> > stable
> > > for me, but others have had reasonable luck with it. Once I get back
> from
> > my
> > > business trip in late October, I'll be able to spend some time
> working on
> > a
> > > native RPC Linux app.
> > >
> > >I belive the GUI for Linux is finished !!
> > I´m waiting for the offical relais !!
> >
> > look at : http://boinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/
> >
> >
> > November 21, 2004
> > We have developed a GUI for the core client. It's similar to the old
> Windows
> > GUI but is implemented using wxWidgets so it runs on all platforms. It
> offers
> > new features such as the ability to suspend/resume projects and results,
> and
> > project-specific web links. It uses a socket-based GUI RPC mechanism,
> which
> > makes it possible to develop other GUIs, including ones that control
> many
> > hosts.
> >
>
> This sounds great. Went and looked at the web page you posted. Tried to follow
> it to a page where you could download the program mentioned. I could not find
> it anywhere. If you know of a web site that has it for download please let me
> know.
>
> Thanks
>

Please disregard previous request for the location to download. Found it. Thanks for the help.

Thanks

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