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Message 784981 - Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 7:33:59 UTC
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I am just curious as to how people feel here about people they disagree with.

Myself..no matter how annoyed I get about people, I don't dislike them because of their political views. It doesn't matter who they are and how much I detest their opinions.

I separate their opinions from the person, and judge them on how they treat me as a person..not on what they think about politics or religion.

How do other people feel about those that post here?

Just wondering if I am alone on this..or if people aren't aware even that I think like this.

[please keep this topic civil..do not use it as an excuse to slag people off]
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Message 784983 - Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 7:47:07 UTC
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I hate them!

Just kidding. It makes life a little more "vivid" for me when I get to explore the wild and woolly world of people. Sometimes I think I may be able to learn or help someone learn, but find most are set in granite.

I was never political, even in college. The smaller the world gets, however, the more is apparent, and it hurts. People seem to have their operating systems EPROM'd, with an emphasis on READ ONLY MEMORY.

Embracing this fact is tough but helpful.


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Message 785057 - Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 13:16:01 UTC

I afraid I have been avoiding the politics pages because of their effect on my blood pressure. Unfortunately as I get older I have not become more right wing, rather the reverse as I learn more and more about some peoples' greed, selfishness and aggression. Since the extreme of the left wing is every inch as ghastly as the right, perhaps I just become more and more Liberal as time goes by.

Far too many (or maybe just 3 or 4) of the regular correspondents fit those categories all too easily. Some of them should read, mark, learn and inwardly digest the 10 commandments, not as religious but rather moral rules and would be all the better and more human for it.

My fuse has almost always been too short for my own good. I have a tendency to speak my mind and call a spade a ******* shovel much too quickly. Trying to convert some of the bigots that infect these pages is a far worse task than that faced by Sysyphus and I should not attempt it.

I shall try never to slag people off but their views are, indeed, another matter altogether. Rubbish views remain rubbish no matter what totalitarian stone they crawl out from.

I know full well that Esme has friends amongst those whose views I detest but I have to confess that I should find accepting some of them as such more than difficult.

There, I am just a good, old-fashioned Liberal bigot.



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Message 785188 - Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 21:47:10 UTC

'Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.' ~ Jesus

'nuff said... ;)
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Message 785358 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 10:41:38 UTC - in response to Message 785188.  

'Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.' ~ Jesus

That is rather a clever indirect approach for trying to instill some learning and good morals. (Think it through.)

I just wonder whether that piece is something copied from earlier thoughtful scriptures of the day, whether it was indeed thoughtfully included to make a moralizing story, or whether it's just an apt comment that has greater meaning than the author(s) intended/believed.


There is quite a leap to be able to discuss and argue ideas rather than to blindly argue at someone.

Then again, many people never get past the evolutionary stage of just blindly spouting their own rubbish without any thought for discussion or that there might be alternative ideas.


Note that it is the active posters that shape these forums. There must be some kind of rapport for people to linger for so long.

And enough of my pontificating!


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Message 785396 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 13:10:17 UTC
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It's not the posters here than annoy me so much (although Rush makes me want to put my foot through the monitor at times)..it's those that can't tell the difference between making a valid point made between friends and flame/hate. Those are the ones that do my nut in.

It would be nice to see some of the right wingers post here..or are they the ones that do hate people just because of their opinions?
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Message 785400 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 13:22:16 UTC - in response to Message 785396.  

... (although Rush makes me want to put my foot through the monitor at times) ...

I thought that was his self-professed purpose and karma...

Sounds like it works for you!

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Message 785405 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 13:34:56 UTC

i am always nice to the nice people.
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Message 785468 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 20:54:33 UTC - in response to Message 785400.  

... (although Rush makes me want to put my foot through the monitor at times) ...

I thought that was his self-professed purpose and karma...

Sounds like it works for you!

:-p

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He's annoying on forums..but very jolly and entertaining to go for a pint with.

..anyway..I more than got my own back with a vindaloo one time.
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Message 785483 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 21:27:10 UTC - in response to Message 785468.  

He's annoying on forums..but very jolly and entertaining to go for a pint with.

..anyway..I more than got my own back with a vindaloo one time.

Ah, yes, the Incident with The Vindaloo. I remember it well. That was An Evening to Remember!
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Message 785528 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 22:53:36 UTC - in response to Message 785468.  

He's annoying on forums..but very jolly and entertaining to go for a pint with.

Annoying by day, jolly by night... no work and all play, the perfect corporate candidate... ;)
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Message 785533 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 23:25:11 UTC - in response to Message 785358.  

And enough of my pontificating!

Pontificate all you like... I do it all the time... I state my case and quietly walk away, no point in arguing about it... ;)

(Right or wrong, I will always be wrong in the eyes of those who outnumber me and outrank me.)
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Message 785904 - Posted: 23 Jul 2008, 20:18:48 UTC

Since Rush and I seem to get along (agree on some things and disagree on others) on the forums during the day, can we get in arguments over a pint or two?
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Message 785906 - Posted: 23 Jul 2008, 20:21:34 UTC

Angry, angry pints!!
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Message 785928 - Posted: 23 Jul 2008, 21:08:19 UTC - in response to Message 785906.  

Angry, angry pints!!

Pint of "bitter"? :)
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Message 785994 - Posted: 23 Jul 2008, 23:13:20 UTC

LMAO!
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Message 786160 - Posted: 24 Jul 2008, 5:16:24 UTC - in response to Message 785906.  

Angry, angry pints!!

Takes a licking and keeps on ticking!

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Message 786481 - Posted: 24 Jul 2008, 20:07:23 UTC - in response to Message 786160.  
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Angry, angry pints!!

Takes a licking and keeps on ticking!



LMAO!

- and he lived to tell the tale...

Bite me!
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Message 786492 - Posted: 24 Jul 2008, 20:32:47 UTC - in response to Message 786481.  
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Angry, angry pints!!

Takes a licking and keeps on ticking!



LMAO!

- and he lived to tell the tale...

[size=]Bite me![/size]

That's just plain odd.
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Message 786645 - Posted: 25 Jul 2008, 0:17:03 UTC
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There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.


- William Shakespeare, Hamlet, Act 1. Scene V
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