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Message 784924 - Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 2:07:44 UTC

I recently added World Community Grid to my BOINC projects. This used to run as a separate program, but they joined BOINC. Ever since, I noticed SETI is constantly restarting its projects. Is this due to a setting that needs to be changed?
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Message 784931 - Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 2:45:30 UTC

If you are seeing messages like:

7/20/2008 8:18:32 PM|SETI@home|Restarting task 04fe08ab.28725.4980.13.8.90_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 528
7/20/2008 8:19:57 PM|SETI@home|Starting 11mr08ab.19322.28648.14.8.225_0
7/20/2008 8:19:57 PM|SETI@home|Starting task 11mr08ab.19322.28648.14.8.225_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 528


in your Messages tab, this is perfectly normal when doing multiple projects. The "restarting" message actually means that it is resuming where it last check-pointed and should pick up where it last left off. It may sometimes look like it starts over from zero while it recalculates how much time is left, but then it should jump right to where it left off.

The messages above are from my own system that I know is running perfectly fine.
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Message 785114 - Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 17:21:10 UTC

No, this is not normal. And yes, it does restart the task from the beginning, never finishing it. Here is a copy of my current message log:

2008-07-20 20:58|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-20 21:24|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-20 21:30|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-20 22:03|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-20 22:09|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-20 23:17|World Community Grid|Restarting task R00053_5ef936015001bacd5ba4d9025d93ced6_01_000_15 using rice version 617
2008-07-21 03:12|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-21 04:12|World Community Grid|Restarting task R00053_5ef936015001bacd5ba4d9025d93ced6_01_000_15 using rice version 617
2008-07-21 05:16|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-21 06:16|World Community Grid|Restarting task R00053_5ef936015001bacd5ba4d9025d93ced6_01_000_15 using rice version 617
2008-07-21 07:21|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-21 07:39|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-21 07:44|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-21 08:32|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-21 08:38|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-21 09:25|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-21 09:59|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-21 10:19|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-21 10:52|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-21 11:12|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-21 11:17|SETI@home|Restarting task 29my08af.960.5798.8.8.68_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
2008-07-21 12:17|World Community Grid|Restarting task R00053_5ef936015001bacd5ba4d9025d93ced6_01_000_15 using rice version 617

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Message 785131 - Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 18:23:26 UTC

In your preferences, do you have set xx in Use at most xx percent of CPU time to less than 100%? If so, reset it to 100%. The "CPU throttling" is known to cause restarting of tasks on some machines. If you get heat or response time problems when running on full load, set On multiprocessors, use at most xx processors to 1 in your preferences. That may run only one task at a time, but will prevent your computer from overheating and all your tasks from continuous restarting.

A fix for this problem (better CPU throttling) will be added to the 6.4 client.
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Message 785145 - Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 18:57:42 UTC - in response to Message 785131.  

In your preferences, do you have set xx in Use at most xx percent of CPU time to less than 100%? If so, reset it to 100%. The "CPU throttling" is known to cause restarting of tasks on some machines. If you get heat or response time problems when running on full load, set On multiprocessors, use at most xx processors to 1 in your preferences. That may run only one task at a time, but will prevent your computer from overheating and all your tasks from continuous restarting.

A fix for this problem (better CPU throttling) will be added to the 6.4 client.

I was just about to suggest quite the same :-)

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Message 785418 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 14:09:56 UTC

Ok, thank you both. I made the change (it was set to 50%.) I suspended the current World Community Grid task so the SETI task would run. I will monitor it and see if that does it. Thanks again and congrats Ageless on 11 months and 2 days! ;-)
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Message 785430 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 14:37:59 UTC

Well, it still restarted, even after making that change.
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Message 785446 - Posted: 22 Jul 2008, 15:33:19 UTC - in response to Message 785430.  

Well, it still restarted, even after making that change.

Did you update the preferences locally, or through the web site?
If through the web site, did you also update Seti after you saved the changes to the web site?
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Message 785816 - Posted: 23 Jul 2008, 15:06:55 UTC

Through the website, and yes, I updated after. But now it's been several hours and still doing the same thing.
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Message 785926 - Posted: 23 Jul 2008, 21:03:23 UTC

Could you look in both global_prefs.xml and global_prefs_override.xml to see what this value is:

<cpu_usage_limit>100</cpu_usage_limit>

We might as well go directly to the data used to see what the effective setting really is.


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Message 786557 - Posted: 24 Jul 2008, 21:22:11 UTC

Ok,the value in global_prefs.xml was 100, but the value in global_prefs_override.xml was 50. I changed it to 100 also and resaved it through notepad. I then updated the project through BOINC. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks.
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Message 786604 - Posted: 24 Jul 2008, 22:21:11 UTC - in response to Message 786557.  

Ok,the value in global_prefs.xml was 100, but the value in global_prefs_override.xml was 50. I changed it to 100 also and resaved it through notepad. I then updated the project through BOINC. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks.

Stop and start BOINC or in more recent versions Advanced -> Read Local Prefs File. The override file is for local settings and supersedes whatever is in the global_prefs.xml file.


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Message 786915 - Posted: 25 Jul 2008, 14:34:21 UTC

Ok, I went to Advanced -> Read Local Prefs File. So far the task has made it to 67% completion rate, the highest I have seen since this problem started. So I believe the problem is corrected, but I will leave this thread open until at least the first task is completed. Thanks.
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Message 787482 - Posted: 26 Jul 2008, 13:31:40 UTC

Ok, it seems to be working properly now. Thanks everyone!
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