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Message 30392 - Posted: 26 Sep 2004, 22:07:56 UTC
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Hi all,

many nice projects are running under boinc today.
some more, some less painfull.

I would like to aks/querry, to how many projects YOU are attached to, this on level client.

All clients m$, 4.09 gui/cli, no ss, proxied dsl, remote management.

In my case, every clients is attached to seti@boinc.

13 clients are additional attached to pirates@boinc (1 WU done, no more work but big fun)

2 clients are running seti and clima
2 have seti and LHC
1 is running seti and lhc and clima and pirates

so far, crossing all fingers, no problems with double LHC, no problem in any term stopping the client.
They run fine. they do preempting in a regular manner.

Personaly I'm thinking, the "unwroten" limit is about 4 attached project by clients. All are not ready for work today.

- What are your experience with multiple attachements, this over a period of time?

- to how many projects are you attached?

- is it usual to have multiproject attachements?

- where is the limitation <dead line / technically / sense>




Any posting appreciated


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Message 30394 - Posted: 26 Sep 2004, 22:25:11 UTC
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2 PCs (3 soon)

3 projects.

75% is SETI@Home
12% is LHC@home
12% is Climate

When Folding comes up to V4.x, they'll get a share too.

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Message 30401 - Posted: 26 Sep 2004, 23:15:44 UTC - in response to Message 30394.  
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As of right now :

8 Systems running for BOINC (9 CPUs in total)

SETI@Home : 8
CPDN : 6
LHC : 3

The Projects all run absolutely fine besides each other, no Problems noted so far.
The distribution is actually a result of various limitations (LHC has no Linux Client, CPDN doesn't run on Win9x and additionally requires ~600MB of disk space)

In the future, I do plan to even out the distribution to equal shares if possible.

Running multiple Projects affords some level of redundancy, in case one Project suffers a downtime.

For as long as the local Caches are kept reasonably small (e.g. 24-48hrs) and the Systems have a high uptime per day, 5 Projects could easily run parallel.
(assuming the machine is a modern and fast one)

The cached amount of work just should not get close to any individual Project's Report deadlines, to leave some room for System downtime and not have other participants wait excessively for their Credits ;)

At one point however, suspending each Project in RAM while timeslicing to another might hog down its Resources somewhat or cause lots of swapping to HD when they switch.
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Message 30408 - Posted: 26 Sep 2004, 23:44:51 UTC

I was attached to all 5 for awhile, but was getting a weird cross-project contamination that I do not know if it has been fixed or what caused that ...

At the moment I am doing all at equal proportions, but LHC@Home does not do the Macintosh so there I only do the two, SETI@Home and cp.net ...

When Predictor@Home comes back I will load them up too ... I like cp.net for the fact that all the rest can go the way of the mastodon and I would have work for a couple of days with no sweat. I like the other three projects because they have the nice short WU that you can get a bunch of them and polish groups of them off each day.

I kinda like the variety ... Though it will be interesting to see what comes out of the next couple weeks ...
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Message 30429 - Posted: 27 Sep 2004, 1:09:32 UTC

10 machines.
CPDN/S@H/Predictor/LHC/Alpha/Beta/Pirates/LHC-Alpha
50/50/50/50/10/10/10/10

All 10 run S@H/Predictor/Alpha/Beta/Pirates
9 run LHC/LHC-Alpha
4 run CPDN (including one that should not have been able to DL a WU).

Alpha and LHC-Alpha are private, they pre-test new code.
Beta and Predictor are currently down.
Pirates doesn't hand out much work.
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Message 30456 - Posted: 27 Sep 2004, 2:45:00 UTC
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8.62 % Boinc S@H
82.64 % Boinc Alpha
Boinc Beta Not attached at this time Beta project is turn off
0.83 % Boinc Pirates
8.62 % Boinc LHC-Alpha
Predictor Not attached at this time untill they upgrade to Boinc 4.xx
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Message 30465 - Posted: 27 Sep 2004, 3:37:20 UTC - in response to Message 30456.  

> 8.62 % Boinc S@H
> 82.64 % Boinc Alpha
> Boinc Beta Not attached at this time Beta project is turn off
> 0.83 % Boinc Pirates
> 8.62 % Boinc LHC-Alpha
> Predictor Not attached at this time untill they upgrade to Boinc 4.xx
> Fred BOINC Alpha & BOINC Beta Tester
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Boinc Pirates?



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Message 30467 - Posted: 27 Sep 2004, 4:30:58 UTC

My own PC:

LHC@Home 60%
SETI@Home 40%

Waiting for Predictor to finish upgrading.
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Message 30477 - Posted: 27 Sep 2004, 5:33:17 UTC - in response to Message 30467.  

Hello
one pc, 100% seti@home


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Message 30480 - Posted: 27 Sep 2004, 5:48:32 UTC - in response to Message 30465.  

> Boinc Pirates?
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Message 30481 - Posted: 27 Sep 2004, 5:50:33 UTC - in response to Message 30480.  

> > Boinc Pirates?
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> >
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> > <p>
> > We are Borgholio. You will be assimilated...bunghole!
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> http://pirates.vassar.edu/
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> Get on board ship!
> <img> src="http://boinc.mundayweb.com/seti2/stats.php?userID=1296&trans=off">
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I enjoyed Beevis and Butthead Do America ;-)


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Message 30482 - Posted: 27 Sep 2004, 5:55:01 UTC

project - Resource Level
SETI - 100
LHC - 100
ClimatePrediction - 100
Predictor - 10 (until they get up to 4.x)
Pirates - 10 (until they decide to quit partying!)
SETI - BETA - 100 (actually not getting anything there either!)

I have a Windows ME machine that isn't running CLimatePrediction (not supported) .. and, actually, only has SETI & LHC attached at this time. Most of my machines actually have only SETI, LHC and ClimatePrediction attached.

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Message 30501 - Posted: 27 Sep 2004, 8:26:21 UTC

SETI 25%
LHC 25%
CPDN 25%
Pirates 25%

No problems with switching beetween projects. Credits for CPDN and LHC are flowing. Didn't get credits from SETI for last week, but it seems to be a validator problem. No work (and no creds) from Pirates.
PC is Intel Celeron 2.4 running WinXP Pro SP1. LAN connected to linux based router with asdl modem. Crunching 60% of time (or so the stats say)

I think that 3 projects (as Pirates is out of work most of the time it seems) is enough for this machine because od deadlines. With the former LHC limit of 48 hours I was unable to do all work within the time limit. Estimated time for CPDN is about six months.
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Message 30507 - Posted: 27 Sep 2004, 9:10:12 UTC - in response to Message 30501.  
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> With the former LHC limit of
> 48 hours I was unable to do all work within the time limit. Estimated time

Me to, I runned into the 48 Hours limitation last week-end. I tried to temporary
give more ressource sharing to satisfy the limitation.




Thankyou very much for all your postings.

It clears me up. it's not un-common, to be attached to 3 or more projects.

for the 4 Project client, settings
seti 43,75%, clima 25%, clima 18.75% and Pirates 12.5%. HT PC

some clients have 66/33%
most have seti 87,5% /12,5%

still trying out the "best" value.


>Pirates!
Had the "luck" to make a screencopy of the Pirates WU, very short one

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Message 31004 - Posted: 29 Sep 2004, 2:16:29 UTC
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pirates 10000 86.21%
lhc 1000 8.62%
seti 500 4.31%
cpdn 100 .86%
predictor too but i dont remember and im detached at the moment
i had 12 pirates wus and when they dont send anything the time allotment just dissapears so the other projects run like they would with their alottment % based on the three of them without pirates right?


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Message 31007 - Posted: 29 Sep 2004, 2:23:05 UTC
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--- 3 PCs and all running SETI 100% ---



If I hade six hours to chop down a tree, I'd spend the first four sharpening the axe.
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Message 31010 - Posted: 29 Sep 2004, 2:27:05 UTC
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Interesting point about pirates there roland...if I ever get some wu's I'll have to change my resource share.

I have 2 pc's both set up as per below, this will change when the projects settle down and I gain more of an interest in one project or the other.

CPDN 55%
LHC 44.8%
SAH 0.1%
Pirates 0.1%

I recently dropped SAH share down as they really are cheesing me off with viewing pending credit and results turned off, which is really needed if they want transparency in credit giving. Isn't that why they do credit this way now...for transparency? If not then they may as well go back to 1wu = 1credit! Anyway, what is one less participant.

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Message 31041 - Posted: 29 Sep 2004, 4:57:22 UTC

I'm attached to six projects.

Seti@Home
BOINC Beta
LHC@Home
Pirates@Home
CPDN
Predictor@Home

All equal shares. Of course, as has already been mentioned, not all of these are giving work.

I think multiple projects are what makes BOINC so fascinating. :)


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Message 31050 - Posted: 29 Sep 2004, 5:21:40 UTC

Only attached to Seti.
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Message 31056 - Posted: 29 Sep 2004, 5:46:37 UTC

LHC and SETI....

Pirates appears to be a test of the screen-saver code for a future science project. Their work-units don't appear to contain actual science.
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