I am just a common person with an idea that I know is possible due to my vast knowledge of certain things.

If CETI is seeking out inteligent life forms then why are you not doing it by using common sense.

In the medical field there is things that can read brain wave paterns as well as the frequency of brains. so instead of looking for RADIO waves why are you not looking for the frequency ranges of known brain waves all the way from ant life to the human life brain frequency's.
There is only so far a limited frequency for brain activity and since brains dont use radios to communicate with why arent you looking for what does communicate. Use the frequency's of brains to detemine life out there.
I bet everything I know that you will find what you are looking for out there. once you can figure out how to do what it is I am saying to do.
I know with what I have told you is possible due to my wife being in the medical field and the machines she has dealt with in the past. And with the current tech we have its possible to scan for the known frequencys of brains at our disposal.
So quit scanning for life via the radio frequncy's but scan for via the brain wave frequency's. And when you find what it is your looking for remember one thing. I Told you so! Every living thing produces frequency even inanimate objects does as well. Quit messing around and prove what your trying to prove. And quit telling people your looking for life out there when that isnt what your currently looking for your looking for communication forms, not life forms. If life is what your looking for then scan for the life form frequency's.
As I said you will find what your looking for with my concept.

For those who dont understand IE.

Binaural beats deserve special mention because of the intriguing manner in which the desired frequencies are obtained. Brainwave synchronization (entrainment) may be achieved when audio signals are introduced to the brain causing a response directly related to the frequency of the signal introduced, called binaural beats. Two tones close in frequency generate a beat frequency at the difference of the frequencies, which is generally subsonic. For example, a 500 Hz tone and 510 Hz tone will produce a subsonic 10 Hz tone, roughly in the middle of the alpha range. The resulting subsonic tone may affect the state of mind of the subject. The "carrier frequency" (e.g., the 500 Hz in the example above), is also said by some to affect the quality of the transformative experience.[citation needed] Note that this effect is achieved without either ear hearing the pulse when headphones are used. Instead, the brain produces the pulse by combining the two tones. Each ear hears only a steady tone. Although some have claimed that these frequencies do provide help in treating certain medical conditions,[2] there is not a wide acceptance by the medical community to adopt the practice of brainwave synchronization for emotional/mental disorders. The fixed, constant frequency of the synchronization is less helpful than techniques such as classical neurofeedback or learning meditation, also which naturally generate brain wave frequencies that differ from person to person and may vary from minute to minute.

If medical can tell you we and all life forms have a frequency then its obvious you can locate it in a distance as well since you can scan for every known frequency, or so thats what you folks claim to the people of the world.

Respectfully yours,

Larry M. Dudley

We know absolutely zero about alien biology - a creature that evolved under completely different circumstances will likely share very little in common with Earth life forms. Therefore we would would only be guessing at what we were looking for, if it's there at all. Radio waves are a natural phenomenon that exist throughout the universe; one can assume that any technologically advanced species will discover radio waves at some point, and hopefully realize they can be used for communication.

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A 500Hz and a 510Hz tone that sound simultaneously and have anywhere near comparable loudness and timber will cause a 10-Hz beat that corresponds to the constructive and destructive interference of one tone upon another. That's one way to tune the strings of a piano or other musical instrument.

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I would imagine that brain waves would be even harder to detect than radio waves. Unless, of course, every alien came equiped with powerful brain amplifiers.

Now that would be awesome!

You do realise that the total "power levels" of the electrical field output of the brain is extremely small, and the frequencies used are lost to the background clutter of everything else. Sorry to say but there is no way that you could pick up brain wave energy from the next closest town, let alone a remote star system.

The planet earth generates its own magnetic and electric fields and has its own radio frequencies just like all planets do and also the sun, these create large amounts of background clutter, and is why the search for ET radio waves is targeted to specific sets of frequencies that have a chance of getting through the background clutter of the universe, (quiet areas of the rf spectrum, possible long distance comms frequencies). The output power levels of the human brain would not even make it past the lowest cloud layer of our planet befor being completly swamped by the planets own natural fields.

It is an intriguing concept though and one that is far too under-investigated for medical science. I think we may yet find that rf energies and combined frequencies have many potential health benefits.

If CETI is seeking out inteligent life forms...

Ummm it's "SETI", not "CETI". I think that's what you meant to say.
CETI is "Communication with Extraterrestrial Intelligence"; in other words sending signals to them, not searching for signals they're already sending us.

I bet everything I know that you will find what you are looking for out there. once you can figure out how to do what it is I am saying to do.

I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out what you're saying to do in the first place! :P

So quit scanning for life via the radio frequncy's but scan for via the brain wave frequency's.

uhhhhhh.........what?

Wait a second...

Do you think that the brains of biological creatures emit electromagnetic frequencies that can be detected from outer space? Like radio waves?

Are you REALLY saying that???

And your wife works in the medical field?

....I.....I'm speechless.....

Every living thing produces frequency even inanimate objects does as well.

Damn.....those NASA scientists sending expensive probes to Mars are real dumb.
They should just be scanning the surface for brain waves....

Hell, we should be able to capture Osama Bin Laden real easy!!!
Just send a satellite over to the Pakistan-Afghanistan border and scan the surface for his brain waves!


Oh man... I just realized....

The government might just build a giant array to scan your brain waves and read your thoughts from miles away!!!
You should wear a tin-foil hat to protect yourself!

As I said you will find what your looking for with my concept.

I'm sure you're right!!!!

In fact, you should get a patent on your idea right now!

I'm sure you'll have no problems getting funding for the first Brain Wave Telescope that can scan space for interstellar brain waves!!!

Brilliant idea! I'm betting on you, man!





Larry, here's a serious question:
You say your wife works in the medical field, right?
Ask her this then-
When people's brain waves are scanned, do they use an antennae to do it from across the room? Do they wave a little receiver in front of their heads?

Ask your wife how brain waves are scanned.

Larry, let me help you out here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_waves

Give that a good read and then get back to us.

My daughter is studying Neuroscience at Brown so I follow the field a little. The best that they can do is to find broad patterns of repeated brain activity when certain thoughts are concentrated upon. They are trying with some success to use biofeedback to control artificial limbs.

The waves are only detectible by sensors in direct contact with the head. No one is deciphering speech by doing pattern recognition on brain waves. They are electrical (electro-chemical) but in the 50-100 millivolt range.

As someone said, I doubt they could even detect any activity a few inches away from your Noggin.