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Message 766073 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 5:26:38 UTC

thought some might want to see what atom can do.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4430028

will be running this for a week or so to see what max RAC is. running the AK V8 SSSE3x tweak...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/Evilsizer/ocforums/Intel%20Atom/AtomZ530aka230.jpg

FYI this is not a Laptop but a M-ITX board.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121342&Tpk=intel%2batom
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Message 766083 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 6:28:21 UTC

That is pretty terrible.

Question: So it is single core, but hyperthreaded, so it does 2 wu at a time? Can that be disabled to see the speed of the single core?
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Message 766085 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 6:31:29 UTC - in response to Message 766083.  

That is pretty terrible.

Question: So it is single core, but hyperthreaded, so it does 2 wu at a time? Can that be disabled to see the speed of the single core?



P.S. While you are at it, can you run BoincLogX and gather the time data? It would be awesome if you could reference the website and generate Credit vs. CPU hour graphs...
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Message 766191 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 14:09:46 UTC - in response to Message 766073.  

thought some might want to see what atom can do.
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will be running this for a week or so to see what max RAC is. running the AK V8 SSSE3x tweak...
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FYI this is not a Laptop but a M-ITX board.
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Message 766198 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 14:31:53 UTC - in response to Message 766073.  

will be running this for a week or so to see what max RAC is. running the AK V8 SSSE3x tweak...
It will take well over a week for the RAC to come close to stabilizing as computed by the web site. That is not a comment on how slow Atom is, but on how RAC is computed. Out around four weeks it will be getting pretty close to the stable value.

Depending on the luck of Work Unit distribution we might see enough variety on Angle Range to get a good performance estimate well before then, or not.

I've added this host to a Fred W data-vac run I'll be running daily, so I may be able to provide CPU time vs. Angle Range graphs of possible interest.

Please let men know if(when) you switch off hyperthreading or lower the BOINC allowed CPU use from two to one, as I'd need to make a distinction. I can see ap changes in the extracted data.

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Message 766200 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 14:34:08 UTC - in response to Message 766191.  
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FYI this is not a Laptop but a M-ITX board.
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But... but... but...

The heatsink and fan combination on the NORTHBRIDGE is vastly bigger than for the CPU itself!

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Message 766216 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 15:54:28 UTC

This $70 board comes with an Atom 230 included in the price?
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Message 766224 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 16:17:56 UTC

Here is a board map for the D945GCLF.

Yes, the 945 GMCH is a higher power part than this Atom. I expect Atom to be used in much lower power systems than this board as its dominant application. In many of them graphics capability of the level provided by the 945 GMCH will not be needed or wanted.
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Message 766255 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 17:07:46 UTC
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newton,
yea i can disable HT, i can do that a bit later and take some SS's of the WUs to be completed. yes Silverthorne is a single core with HT, diamondville will be a true dual core atom. that will be out later this year, i just hope they put one on a M-ITX board like this one. when i get home i will track down BoincLogX, unless you have link.

ML1,
right the chipset hs has a fan and is bigger then the cpu hs.

Phonacg,
correct for 70 you get a 1.6ghz HT cpu with board. the atom cpu is soldered to the board...

archae86,
right even though 945 is higher power then the cpu. it is much cheaper for intel to make vs other chipsets. though i would expect to see future atoms come with better/lower power chipsets. i think atom has a place for a media playback box.

with the single PCI slot i thought about getting a ATI 2400por pci card for $64. turn this into my bluyray player, the only downside is the onboard sound has no ditigal jacks.
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Message 766258 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 17:18:26 UTC

Link to BoincLogX can be found on the Add-on s/ware page
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Message 766300 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 18:49:32 UTC

btw how do you make links active on this board?
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Message 766302 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 18:57:53 UTC - in response to Message 766300.  

btw how do you make links active on this board?


Reply to anyone using links in their post and review the code.

Simple instruction is to use square brackets "[" and "]" and insert the BBcode url=http://www.webaddresshere.net.

For instance: [ url=http://setiathome.berkeley.edu ] This is SETI's website [ /url ]


But remove all spaces from the square brackets.
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Message 766304 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 18:59:38 UTC - in response to Message 766300.  

btw how do you make links active on this board?


When you post or reply, right click on the link "Use BBCode tags to format your text", and open it in a new tab or window (or click the link I provided...).
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Message 766305 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 19:00:52 UTC - in response to Message 766300.  

btw how do you make links active on this board?
I'll give a broader answer: Any time you are looking at a post and wondering "how did they do that", you can just click on the reply button and look at (or even copy and paste) the transcribed post in the reply box. Then you can just go back in your browser or otherwise abandon without posting.

A little more general way to see many useful bits is to click the Use BBCode tags to format your text link which appears next to the Message box when you are preparing a post.

Humm... I'm at least the third to reply, but I'll post this anyway.

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Message 766313 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 19:14:55 UTC - in response to Message 766073.  

thought some might want to see what atom can do.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4430028

will be running this for a week or so to see what max RAC is. running the AK V8 SSSE3x tweak...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/Evilsizer/ocforums/Intel%20Atom/AtomZ530aka230.jpg

FYI this is not a Laptop but a M-ITX board.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121342&Tpk=intel%2batom

Have you measured the total power consumption?
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Message 766343 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 20:26:59 UTC - in response to Message 766313.  
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thought some might want to see what atom can do.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4430028

will be running this for a week or so to see what max RAC is. running the AK V8 SSSE3x tweak...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/Evilsizer/ocforums/Intel%20Atom/AtomZ530aka230.jpg

FYI this is not a Laptop but a M-ITX board.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121342&Tpk=intel%2batom

Have you measured the total power consumption?

no, i havent, though i though about getting a "killowatt meter". i dont know how accurate it would be though, when the system hardly pulls anything from a PCP 510D pre-pcie spec. it was a spare psu still sitting on the shelf so i just used it. i plan on getting a PICO-PSU to use on the board, i just hope it will be enough for the AT 2400pro pci card,still looking into this.

when i get one i will have some other basic benches done for work/watt and compare it to a speed matched T5600. also hoping to find a VIA Nano soon as well for some comarasion testing..

once i get things in order not per seti. it will be posted on nextlevelhardware site. i will post a link in here for yall...
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Message 766377 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 22:04:02 UTC - in response to Message 766302.  

[ url=http://setiathome.berkeley.edu ] This is SETI's website [ /url ]


Could even be...

[url=http://setiathome.berkeley.edu]This is SETI's website[/url]

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Message 766388 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 22:20:14 UTC - in response to Message 766343.  

Have you measured the total power consumption?

no, i havent, though i though about getting a "killowatt meter". i dont know how accurate it would be though, when the system hardly pulls anything from a PCP 510D pre-pcie spec. it was a spare psu still sitting on the shelf so i just used it. i plan on getting a PICO-PSU to use on the board, i just hope it will be enough for the AT 2400pro pci card,still looking into this.

The kill-a-watt meters have been widely mentioned, and they work well.

At least one vendor advertising the Atom boards sells it with the Pico-PSU. There is a similar device that does the same thing as the Kill-a-watt, but on 12v DC.

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Message 766394 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 22:32:04 UTC

one thing i am noticing so far guys not sure if you are checking atomants tasks. the 73.5x point WU's compare to some done by the T5600, its taking atom 2x as long for the same point WU. i figured this was a better way to compare WU's. since i figured my rigs would never get the same WU to compare to. I would be kinda cool if SETI had a benchmakring WU to use for this kind of thing. all in all for the power used per way and taking 2x times as long. i have to say the work per watt is much higher with atom then anyother cpu right now.

yea i will go ahead and order a killowatt metere then. i can still use it on the power brick since its AC to DC coverter, should be pulling the same either way.
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Message 766403 - Posted: 11 Jun 2008, 22:44:18 UTC - in response to Message 766394.  

one thing i am noticing so far guys not sure if you are checking atomants tasks. the 73.5x point WU's compare to some done by the T5600, its taking atom 2x as long for the same point WU. i figured this was a better way to compare WU's. since i figured my rigs would never get the same WU to compare to. I would be kinda cool if SETI had a benchmakring WU to use for this kind of thing. all in all for the power used per way and taking 2x times as long. i have to say the work per watt is much higher with atom then anyother cpu right now.

yea i will go ahead and order a killowatt metere then. i can still use it on the power brick since its AC to DC coverter, should be pulling the same either way.


What I do is this: I have BoincLogX collect the angle range and cpu time for the workunits, and then once a day when the work units are returned I go to the website and gather the claimed credit for each wu. I then correlate the time that it takes to crunch the wu to the credit claimed. This way you can calculate a very useful statistic: Credit per CPU hour. There is substantial variation among different AR, but it is nice because then you can just predict how well your computer will do overall: On a dual core multiply it by 48 hours to get credit per day. On a quadcore you can multiply it by 96...

For example on my turion 64 x2 @1.6 ghz it is around 17~20 Credits per CPU hour which works out to about 20*48=960 credits per day.

Imho, this Credit per CPU hour is the most useful statistic. The only thing that is inconvineant is that you have to manually look up the stats on the website which takes a long time...
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