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Message 774733 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 13:42:35 UTC - in response to Message 774731.
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Tell ya what pees me off, why is it that every last darn thing you enjoy in this life is supposed to be bad for you?

'cos people take the 'good' to extremes and it's the excess(iveness) that is bad...

All good should be good in moderation...


I'm sure there'll be a lot about that in the Zen/Buddism writings...

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No..........that's NOT the point..........the point is that every arsehole on the planet thinks they have the ultimate solution to life.......and that everbody else should abide by it............
I don't think Zen had anything to do with controlling other's actions...............
Just meditate, you mutha....................................

Joke, my friend.......
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Message 774746 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 14:41:15 UTC


I´m far away to think i have solutions for life.
But one thing is for sure, zen is for controlling yourself not others.

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Message 774759 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 15:00:20 UTC - in response to Message 774733.
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No..........that's NOT the point..........the point is that every [self-righteous idiot] on the planet thinks they have the ultimate solution to life.......and that everbody else should abide by it............

That's only because they cannot see out of their self-made hole and hence they are ignorant of anything and anyone else.

The lost and the drunk can easily fall down that hole.


I don't think Zen had anything to do with controlling other's actions...............

Just meditate, you mutha...

Exactly so!

And to influence by the self-evident good of good thoughts and good actions.


There's a very small number of peace-loving Tibetans in Tibet. Why is China so insecure and fragile that it must perpetrate excesses of cultural genocide?

Perhaps China might yet drag itself from 2000-years-old decrepitude and gain great benefit if it could embrace a little cosmopolitan idea...


Hope you're enjoying your way-bad whiskey!

Hang in there,

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(ps: Much better now that the mods are more 'cosmopolitan' also ;-) )
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Message 774762 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 15:02:50 UTC - in response to Message 774759.

No..........that's NOT the point..........the point is that every arsehole on the planet thinks they have the ultimate solution to life.......and that everbody else should abide by it............

That's only because they cannot see out of their self-made hole and hence they are ignorant of anything and anyone else.

The lost and the drunk can easily fall down that hole.


I don't think Zen had anything to do with controlling other's actions...............

Just meditate, you mutha...

Exactly so!

And to influence by the self-evident good of good thoughts and good actions.


There's a very small number of peace-loving Tibetans in Tibet. Why is China so insecure and fragile that it must perpetrate excesses of cultural genocide?

Perhaps China might yet drag itself from 2000 years old decrepitude and gain great benefit if it could embrace a little cosmopolitan idea...


Hope you're enjoying your way-bad whiskey!

Hang in there,

Cheers,
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(ps: Much better now that the mods are more 'cosmopolitan' also ;-) )


All very good points mates, but we are drifting away from the thread title.

Has mark bought the camera yet?

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Message 774785 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 15:35:26 UTC - in response to Message 774762.

No..........that's NOT the point..........the point is that every arsehole on the planet thinks they have the ultimate solution to life.......and that everbody else should abide by it............

That's only because they cannot see out of their self-made hole and hence they are ignorant of anything and anyone else.

The lost and the drunk can easily fall down that hole.


I don't think Zen had anything to do with controlling other's actions...............

Just meditate, you mutha...

Exactly so!

And to influence by the self-evident good of good thoughts and good actions.


There's a very small number of peace-loving Tibetans in Tibet. Why is China so insecure and fragile that it must perpetrate excesses of cultural genocide?

Perhaps China might yet drag itself from 2000 years old decrepitude and gain great benefit if it could embrace a little cosmopolitan idea...


Hope you're enjoying your way-bad whiskey!

Hang in there,

Cheers,
Martin

(ps: Much better now that the mods are more 'cosmopolitan' also ;-) )


All very good points mates, but we are drifting away from the thread title.

Has mark bought the camera yet?

Oh no, not yet.........
Still a bit soused from last night.....
There are soooooooooooo many out there it boggles the mind.........
Even hard to find an unbiased review sight.......they think it's all fun and games.........

So far the parameters are..........
Biggest LCD possible.....(bad eyes)....and can you adjust the real viewfinder for your vision?)
Big bad optical zoom.....(gotta sneek up on the kitties)...
Mechanical shake....I am not so stable as I used ta be.......
Pixels don't mean squat.........how many can you save in a JPG anyway........
So where to go???????
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Message 774788 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 15:40:13 UTC - in response to Message 774785.


So far the parameters are..........
Biggest LCD possible.....(bad eyes)....and can you adjust the real viewfinder for your vision?)
Big bad optical zoom.....(gotta sneek up on the kitties)...
Mechanical shake....I am not so stable as I used ta be.......
Pixels don't mean squat.........how many can you save in a JPG anyway........
So where to go???????


Can I suggest that you PM Ice for advice? He seems to know the camera game pretty well.

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Message 774791 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 15:45:56 UTC - in response to Message 774788.
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So far the parameters are..........
Biggest LCD possible.....(bad eyes)....and can you adjust the real viewfinder for your vision?)
Big bad optical zoom.....(gotta sneek up on the kitties)...
Mechanical shake....I am not so stable as I used ta be.......
Pixels don't mean squat.........how many can you save in a JPG anyway........
So where to go???????


Can I suggest that you PM Ice for advice? He seems to know the camera game pretty well.

And he has posted some pretty wonderful pics........but if he has one of them 35mm mimic digitals........it would be out of my price range.......not unlimited, but within reason.......$500 or less, I would ponder........
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Message 774793 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 15:49:12 UTC

Maybe the Bramblewienie Digipic 2000 would be a good choice.......LOL.
Or the Kodak Kittiepic 9000.........
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Message 774795 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 15:51:56 UTC
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I would have thought that $500/£250 would have got you a pretty decent 5-7 MP camera, but check with Ice.

Edit - you could consider the Cannon Pussysnap 1000, has a special button to squirt catnip to maintain subject interest. ;-)
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Message 774797 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 15:54:09 UTC - in response to Message 774795.
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I would have thought that $500/£250 would have got you a pretty decent 5-7 MP camera, but check with Ice.

Oh, shitya........but the question is which are rippoffs, and which give da kitties da goods???
It's a big budget forum...........I wanna zooooooooooom lens, but it don't do no good if the optics are %%%%%......oohh, I don't mod anymore, so I don't know what abbreviations are acceptable in these parts anymore.......certainly nothing acceptable between normally raised adults...........
Anyway........
Leica has been acknowledged to have made some fine lenses.......would that be a factor?
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Message 774813 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 16:54:02 UTC

I'd like to say something on the subject of cameras and smoking. Both are related in what I have to say.

On the subject of smoking, I have given up 'seriously' three times in the past few years, the last time I gave up for over 3 years. The driving reason on that occasion wasn't that I wanted to give up, it was the expense. I estimated I would save £35.00 a week, I needed the money, and told myself I would feel healthier for it.

Did that happen? No. Instead of buying cigarettes (tobacco actually since I smoke roll ups) I was constantly buying chocolates, ice creams, Burger King Whoppers, sweets, biscuits, and all sorts of other indulgences. Quite possibly in excess of £35.00 a week. Now that I smoke, I don't buy any of those, I'm not so fat, I feel more attractive, I jog, I feel healthier, I can fit into all my trousers without bursting them, and I'm generally happier. I wonder what that is all worth over and above £35.00 a week to me?

I'm not trying to put anyone off smoking, just suggesting you do it for a 'real' reason and not con yourself, because the cessation won't last. In fact I am about to go on an 8 week smoking cessation program, but this time it's because I want to, not to save money, not to make anyone else feel better, but to see if I can maintain the better state I am in, but without the smoking.

Saving £35.00 is indeed a worthwhile incentive, if not seen as a misleading cost benefit analysis of smoking cessation without taking all factors into consideration as I've outlined. But if I am going to reward myself with £35.00 a week on indulgences which don't involve expanding my waistline again, then the incentive will be worth something to focus on.

Like putting the money towards a decent camera, or better still, a far more expensive one than I would have gone for otherwise, as a reward for restraining myself and putting up with feeling miserable because I can't have a cigarette.

At the end of the day I might decide to keep the camera I have and keep doing what I want to do, especially if people keep advising me to quit smoking, as if I can't make up my own mind about it.

As regards the cameras - there are plenty good to choose from. As far as Canons are concerned, IMHO they are all worth the money and it's just a question of how far you want to go with photography and how much you want to spend. There are plenty of good alternatives to Canon for DSLRs; Nikon have some fantastic models, but with the lens fittings I am stuck with Canon unless I go through shed loads of extra expense to buy lenses for another make.

As far a smaller pocket digital cameras are concerned, I have a 7 megapixel Olympus u750 with 5x optical zoom. Some of the photos I have put up here on SETI were taken with this, although by far the most with my 10 megapixel Canon DSLR. Can anyone tell which is which?

Good luck with the restraint Mark, I hope to be joining you soon ;)

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Message 774819 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 17:34:48 UTC - in response to Message 774813.

... restraining myself and putting up with feeling miserable because I can't have a cigarette.

Put that way round is indeed a cue for misery.

Hopefully you'll be able to overcome the addiction induced craving to not want a cigarette in the first place. Then that misery is snuffed out like a light.

When you get your sense of smell back, hopefully that will help so that you don't even feel the need for any restraint at all.


... I hope to be joining you soon ;)

Good luck for you also!


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Message 774825 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 18:12:55 UTC
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Ice......did not read your whole diatribe.........
Too tired to do so.......and hopefully too tired to smoke too,,,,,,,,,
It has been a royal battle for sure.,,,,,,,,,,,,

I SHALL WIN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mee frakin meow...........
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Message 774830 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 18:26:46 UTC

Your deffiniately better off no matter your reason for quiting. But you can start again in a heartbeat. I've quit many times, the longest for 9 years, it seems dateing or moving in with a smoker, has always been my downfall.Don't wait like me untill a diagnoses says it probably to late.And if you do I hope you are as lucky as me with a cure. Now I'm strung out on the gum as bad as I ever was on the weed,with fewer ill effects. Good Luck.And remember 'only you can prevent ciggie fires'

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Message 774835 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 18:41:37 UTC - in response to Message 774819.

Hopefully you'll be able to overcome the addiction induced craving to not want a cigarette in the first place.

Actually, physical addiction of whatever is in tobacco lasts 12 hours, no more. After 12 hours there is nothing physical in your body that is addictive.

Habitual behavior is another thing, but myths about 'addiction' are another thing to get 'real' over.

You get rid of your bad habits, and I'll get rid of mine ;)

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Message 774851 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 19:16:52 UTC - in response to Message 774830.

Your deffiniately better off no matter your reason for quiting. But you can start again in a heartbeat. I've quit many times, the longest for 9 years, it seems dateing or moving in with a smoker, has always been my downfall.Don't wait like me untill a diagnoses says it probably to late.And if you do I hope you are as lucky as me with a cure. Now I'm strung out on the gum as bad as I ever was on the weed,with fewer ill effects. Good Luck.And remember 'only you can prevent ciggie fires'
Allowing yourself an out is your downfall........
I have thought many times about saying F it all and running out for a pack........I may do so in the next 5 minutes........hung over is no place for strength of mind........
Drag me down, bitch.............sorry, just a joke, my friend..........
You are a good friend, ICE.
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Message 774894 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 20:34:28 UTC - in response to Message 774636.

Decided to buy myself a present, partially paid for with the proceeds of not smoking.....I am sure I've kept at least $100.00 in my pocket since quitting....

Gonna try to pick out a new digital camera this weekend.....

Maybe some new kitty pics on the way!!!

Ooooo!!! Good choice! Or wait for a couple more weeks & buy a really sweet one! Let us know what you got, & what you traded it for! An added something is that you're helping our faltering economy.

What did you smoke before? I just stopped by the drive-thru the other day and Marlboro was $4.08 a pack. WOW. Am I ever glad I quit 3 years ago. *pulling up the calculator* I saved about $4380 over 3 years.

(Funny, I still feel broke)


Heh. It's the gas, Dune. We're all broke.

I figured it out and I quit 24 years ago. Yes, I'm as old as dirt. Maybe the fact that I scared the crap out of myself at a relatively young age is why I'm still here.

Hang in there, Mark. Maybe then we'll all be here bitching about the price of new fuel cells in 10-15 years.

Who the heck has the dilithium crystal market rigged anyway????
I used to get my street racer recharged for 20 or 30 credits......now it costs 60.....dang Martians.......
Ever since their dilithium fields started to yield 60% purity, they think they own us all........we need to start drilling on the moon right now......


It's too damn hot to go drilling today.

I added some extra coolant to my Oster intermix chamber. A new batch of fuel is forthcoming....

Keep it up!

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Message 774900 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 20:39:12 UTC - in response to Message 774894.

Decided to buy myself a present, partially paid for with the proceeds of not smoking.....I am sure I've kept at least $100.00 in my pocket since quitting....

Gonna try to pick out a new digital camera this weekend.....

Maybe some new kitty pics on the way!!!

Ooooo!!! Good choice! Or wait for a couple more weeks & buy a really sweet one! Let us know what you got, & what you traded it for! An added something is that you're helping our faltering economy.

What did you smoke before? I just stopped by the drive-thru the other day and Marlboro was $4.08 a pack. WOW. Am I ever glad I quit 3 years ago. *pulling up the calculator* I saved about $4380 over 3 years.

(Funny, I still feel broke)


Heh. It's the gas, Dune. We're all broke.

I figured it out and I quit 24 years ago. Yes, I'm as old as dirt. Maybe the fact that I scared the crap out of myself at a relatively young age is why I'm still here.

Hang in there, Mark. Maybe then we'll all be here bitching about the price of new fuel cells in 10-15 years.

Who the heck has the dilithium crystal market rigged anyway????
I used to get my street racer recharged for 20 or 30 credits......now it costs 60.....dang Martians.......
Ever since their dilithium fields started to yield 60% purity, they think they own us all........we need to start drilling on the moon right now......


It's too damn hot to go drilling today.

I added some extra coolant to my Oster intermix chamber. A new batch of fuel is forthcoming....

Keep it up!

We need to drill here and NOW....NOW...NOW........good luck with the Oster..........LOL......

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Message 774947 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 23:17:05 UTC

Two minutes from crashin......twho minlutes from hittin up........

Stop me if you can..............
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Message 774948 - Posted: 28 Jun 2008, 23:19:12 UTC

Don't give in Mark! You've been off them for 20 days!!! Imagine all the money you can save eventually. A 5th cat, A 9th Rig....

Resist the urge, everyone here is backing you, don't turn back now!!!

Keep on going!
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