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Message 747767 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 4:06:24 UTC

What is the best air-cooling heat sink/fan combination for my Q6600? I ask this question because it seems that the people who have discussions here on the board are quite knowledgeable and I think they would know the best way to air-cool my quadie.
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Message 747775 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 4:25:36 UTC
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There are those here far more experienced than I but here's what I use. I have an Asus Maximus Formula MB, Q6600 OC'd to 3.4GHz using a Thermaltake Nirvana HSF. The temps on Rightmark CPU indicate a full load temp range of 54 - 61C at an ambient temperature of 24 - 27C. It's a well made and effective HSF and very reasonably priced at about US$40.00. I'm sure there are others out there at least as effective and well priced. Good Crunching!
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Message 747781 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 4:40:58 UTC - in response to Message 747767.
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What is the best air-cooling heat sink/fan combination for my Q6600? I ask this question because it seems that the people who have discussions here on the board are quite knowledgeable and I think they would know the best way to air-cool my quadie.
Thanks in advance
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Try the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 or the Kingwin RVT-12025 heatsinks, PC1 uses the Xigmatek and I have a Kingwin on order for PC2 which has a Q6600 B3 cpu, I don't know how effective either of the two heatsinks I mentioned will be with a B3 Q6600 cpu, But then I don't intend to use the stock fan, Just as the Xigmatek uses a Delta 120mm 129cfm fan on the QX6700 B1 cpu and It runs 24/7 @ 3.37GHz. There is one heatsink that is related to both the Xigmatek and to the Kingwin(the Kingwin is a licensed clone of the Xigmatek) and that is the OCZ Vendetta 2, Last I looked It wasn't out yet and It costs a bit more than the other two heatsinks. On PC2 the fan will either be a 151cfm Delta that I have laying around or if Need be a 220cfm Delta fan(although I hope not as It's louder than either the 129cfm or the 151cfm fan is and yes I have one so I know It's louder).

Oh and since the heatpipes in the heatsink are in direct contact with the top of the cpu, The heatsink must face the top of the case, This is to cover all 4 cores of a Quad core cpu, Otherwise the quad will run hotter, The fan can be either above the heatsink or below It, I prefer above the heatsink Myself as I don't want the fan to hang from the heatsink on the rubber mounts and the Heatsink Itself can be tricky to get mounted correctly, All 4 legs must be pushed down and twisted in the direction of the arrows and the legs must stay there as part of the legs will look like a white plastic washer that sits between the metal legs and the motherboard If this is done correctly. I use AS5(Arctic Silver 5) as the Heatsink compound for all My cpus.

Google the "Kingwin RVT-12025" It sells for $29.88 at Case-Mod.com, plus shipping which is quite reasonable really.

FrostyTech tested the 3 heatsinks I've mentioned and found the OCZ is the Best(Coolest) and the other two are tied for 2nd place.
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Message 747784 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 4:49:51 UTC

There are lots to choose from and I doubt any folks here would steer you towards a dog.

The Thermalright 120 Extreme with a decent fan would be my suggestion.
You can spend more and possibly get a marginal improvement or spend less and find you have to spend it again.

The only drawback is the thing may be a tight fit in some cases or against some large northbridge heatsinks. IIRC they list a couple of problem boards on their site.

Also don't neglect getting the air in and cleanly out of the case.


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Message 747788 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 4:57:57 UTC

I use a Thermalright IFX-14 on my Q6600, @2.88GHz the core temps are in the range 40 to 45C.
It is a very tight fit, in fact so tight there is no fan fitted to the heatsink, but the case 120mm rear fan is within 1" (2.5cm) at one side and the psu 120mm fan very close on that side.

When OC'd to 3.2 GHz the core temps did not exceed 50C.

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Message 747796 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 5:12:56 UTC

Im using the Thermalright 120 Extreme with a 120mm fan blowing full blast on my Q6600 B3 @ 3.2GHz. My temps are 60C. If you aren't overclocking this cooler is alittle much. Are you overclocking? What is your CPU temperatures?

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Message 747798 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 5:27:27 UTC
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The better the cooling you can do the cooler you will be. anything thats 120 mm made of copper,with aluminun fins lots of noise..your getting close. h20 is better if you can manage it.. Single phase ,double phase, triple phase, will work,specialy if you want a beer cooler included...I use a freezer pro 7 witch doesn't give you what you need, only a 92mm fan.If you can get some piezo's and phase cool them, running a good app. you'll fit right in...

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Message 747803 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 5:46:58 UTC - in response to Message 747796.
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I run the Thermalright 120 Extreme's on the 2 quads here, and paired them with a speed-selectable 120mm fan. With room temps of 20c and running at 3.2Ghz they rarely hit 60c max now. Definately go for a decent thermal compound like AS5 or better, and consider lapping the heatsink and base of the cooler if you want to really push it as far as you can go.

There are lots of great heatsinks out there, so have fun choosing ;)
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Message 747812 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 6:03:49 UTC - in response to Message 747803.

I run the Thermalright 120 Extremes on the 2 quads here, and paired them with a speed-selectable 120mm fan. With room temps of 20c and running at 3.2Ghz they rarely hit 60c max now. Definitely go for a decent thermal compound like AS5 or better, and consider lapping the heatsink and base of the cooler if you want to really push it as far as you can go.

There are lots of great heatsinks out there, so have fun choosing ;)

The only heatsinks I'd not do the lapping on are the ones that have their heatpipes directly exposed to the top of the cpu, there is not that much material in the pipes and they could leak or be compromised. And a compromised heatsink is worthless.
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Message 747815 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 6:10:43 UTC

I am running temp at 69c on core 1 and the rest of the cores are lower no less than 62c on a stock cooler/fan on an XFX nForce 680i motherboard no over-clocking in an Antec case circa 2000 with 4 - 80mm fans and 1 hard drive fan. I have been building my rigs since Windows 95 days and have always used an AMD CPU. This is my first Intel build. I had an Athalon that ran so hot I had to trash it on an MSI board. My other AMD builds usually ran around 36c or less with no extra special fans or lapping. I have run my rig a few weeks and the new ARV8 app is running up the temps. I am interested in air-cooling since liquid-cooling is out of my budget. I have 2 - XFX 8600GT video cards and OCZ memory both are over-clockable as well as the CPU. I would like to over-clock if the temps could come down.
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Message 747817 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 6:22:08 UTC - in response to Message 747815.
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I am running temp at 69c on core 1 and the rest of the cores are lower no less than 62c on a stock cooler/fan on an XFX nForce 680i motherboard no over-clocking in an Antec case circa 2000 with 4 - 80mm fans and 1 hard drive fan. I have been building my rigs since Windows 95 days and have always used an AMD CPU. This is my first Intel build. I had an Athlon that ran so hot I had to trash it on an MSI board. My other AMD builds usually ran around 36c or less with no extra special fans or lapping. I have run my rig a few weeks and the new ARV8 app is running up the temps. I am interested in air-cooling since liquid-cooling is out of my budget. I have 2-XFX 8600GT video cards and OCZ memory both are over-clockable as well as the CPU. I would like to over-clock if the temps could come down.

I believe this is about an overclocked cpu, Not a stock heatsink equipped cpu and the correct spelling is Athlon, Not the way You have misspelled the AMD cpu. Oh and this is not a flame at all.
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Message 747826 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 7:07:37 UTC - in response to Message 747817.

I to agree with not lapping exposed heat pipes. The Ultra 120 Extreme dropped temps substantially when lapped as you could actually SEE the bow in the base!


I believe this is about an overclocked cpu, Not a stock heatsink equipped cpu


Yeah I agree. Stock coolers are fine for mild overclocks in a case with reasonable airflow, but the CPU will run hotter than with a decent chunk of finned copper or Aluminium and a few heat pipes thrown in as well. Thats why the aftermarket coolers sell so well.

Oh and I have spelt Aluminium correct, so don't pick on my spellin' ;)

and the correct spelling is Athlon, Not the way You have misspelled the AMD cpu. Oh and this is not a flame at all.


try working with a guy here. IQ probably in the 130's easily, but his spelling is disgusting. Mettle (Metal), Alloi (alloy), Fone (phone), and I'm not kidding - he does not see his spelling as wrong, and often incorrectly corrects your spelling in emails - argh!
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Message 747827 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 7:08:19 UTC

On three of my B3 Quads i use the Xigmatek HDT-S1283. Two running
at 3,2 GHz and 53°C, the other at 3,4 GHz and 58°C.

Ambient Temperature is currently 26°C.

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Message 747837 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 7:39:38 UTC

What about the ThermalTake V1 had good reviews in Maxium PC.
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Message 747845 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 7:55:17 UTC - in response to Message 747826.

I to agree with not lapping exposed heat pipes. The Ultra 120 Extreme dropped temps substantially when lapped as you could actually SEE the bow in the base!


I believe this is about an overclocked cpu, Not a stock heatsink equipped cpu


Yeah I agree. Stock coolers are fine for mild overclocks in a case with reasonable airflow, but the CPU will run hotter than with a decent chunk of finned copper or Aluminum and a few heat pipes thrown in as well. Thats why the aftermarket coolers sell so well.

Oh and I have spelt Aluminum correct, so don't pick on my spellin' ;)

and the correct spelling is Athlon, Not the way You have misspelled the AMD cpu. Oh and this is not a flame at all.


try working with a guy here. IQ probably in the 130's easily, but his spelling is disgusting. Mettle (Metal), Alloi (alloy), Fone (phone), and I'm not kidding - he does not see his spelling as wrong, and often incorrectly corrects your spelling in emails - argh!

Back on topic, After market heatsinks are better, Example: Stock Intel Heatsinks were really only approved for stock cpu speeds, Some say that lapping the cpu is good and yes I've read where It has reduced the temperatures by a few degrees, But when one goes to sell the lapped cpu, The buyer(potentially really) can't tell whether the cpu they are told their looking at is a real quad or dual core cpu or something less like a dual or single core cpu and I know this has happened, Heck I've had worse happen to Me, I got suckered in to buying two Opteron cpus that were only pictures(the seller put up an auction with text and pictures and no real cpus, It's too easy to do really, Especially If You took the pictures and sold the cpu and then sold the cpus once or twice more) and so I lost $500 that time. As to heatsinks vs water cooling, Water is nice and all, But algae and such is a problem, If I had a water cooled PC that I built, I'd put the water through a UV sterilizer to kill the algae, then I'd still have accumulated dust to deal with, With air I can deal with dust in a heatsink, I take the heatsink and clean It of any and all traces of AS5 and then carefully place the heatsink in the dishwasher and I clean It(the top rack if possible), then I let the heatsink dry preferably overnight then I put the heatsink and the cleaned fan back on the cpu with some AS5 in a thin layer spread all over the top of the cpu(409 and a paper towel 409 sprayed on the towel and then wiped on the blades and the other dusty surfaces). I've put fans through the dishwasher with no apparent ill effects too, But they have to be really dry before they'll work again and so drying overnight or having a spare or backup heatsink and fan would be a good idea.
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Message 747866 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 8:36:08 UTC - in response to Message 747845.

But when one goes to sell the lapped cpu,


Good point. I dont intend to sell these, so no big deal. They'll get shuffled down the list and eventually relegated to the shed or kids rooms, or friends etc in 5 years time.

I take the heatsink and clean It of any and all traces of AS5 and then carefully place the heatsink in the dishwasher and I clean It(the top rack if possible),


Outch. I just hit it with canned air via a cute little earthing nozzle we use at work thats bonded to the case to negate the effect of any static buildup.

I usually blow the cases out monthly, and with wood floors infront of the PC's thats swept every day or so, there's usually only a little dust

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Message 747901 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 9:08:00 UTC

Suggestion 1: Thermalright IFX-14, plus two or three SilenX 120/38 fans (90 CFM @ 18dB). I'm using them on 4 G0 Qs, all OC'ed between 3320 to 3680, core temps are below 60°C. Also used for an QX9650 @3666; same temps here...
Suggestion 2: Xigmatek HDT-S1283 Red Scorpion Edition plus the SilenX Fan. Using this one with an G0 Q @ 3560, keeping temps below 60°C...

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Message 747995 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 14:50:05 UTC

My first choice is the Thermaltake Big Typhoon. msattler got me hooked on these, and core temps rarely get above 52C, even with the new V8 application. Granted, my overclocks are not very wild (3.15gHz on a Q6600 is the highest), but for the cheap Gigabyte motherboards, I am happy with them. But, as with anything, YMMV.

I also got a cheap watercooling rig on eBay, a Thermaltake Tribe. Complete setup, everything included, but the setup is a little big. However, it keeps the Q6600 at 42-48C at about 3gHz.
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Message 748010 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 15:33:57 UTC

I have the 'ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120' on one quad and it works great up to 3.2-3.3gHZ and is perhaps a degree better or at least the equal of the 'ZALMAN CNPS9700' which I ran on the other quads before going to 3.5-3.6 gHZ and water cooling... all quads running 24/7 crunching...

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Message 748117 - Posted: 4 May 2008, 17:35:53 UTC - in response to Message 747866.
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But when one goes to sell the lapped cpu,


Good point. I don't intend to sell these, so no big deal. They'll get shuffled down the list and eventually relegated to the shed or kids rooms, or friends etc in 5 years time.

I take the heatsink and clean It of any and all traces of AS5 and then carefully place the heatsink in the dishwasher and I clean It(the top rack if possible),


Ouch. I just hit it with canned air via a cute little earthing nozzle we use at work thats bonded to the case to negate the effect of any static buildup.

I usually blow the cases out monthly, and with wood floors in front of the PC's thats swept every day or so, there's usually only a little dust

I know It sounds, Extreme, But believe Me, I need to do It this way here, I don't have just ordinary dust, I usually have a certain amount of caked on dust and cat hair, I have a swamp cooler that cools the house and so the humidity gets raised to between 45% and 65%, So every 6 months or so It will need to get done, Besides I live on a fixed income and I do have a working dishwasher that I use from time to time. The normal humidity here in the desert always makes low humidity levels and some static, So a swamp cooler eases that too while It cools the house down.
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