OK, so, I've been helping SETI crunch numbers for a few years now. We all know that ET's are here ... we have all seen the UFO's and we all know that they are being kept from the publics view (for whatever reason) but yet, here we sit still "searching" for extra terrestrial intelligence. Ummmmmm what gives? When is the truth going to be put out there for all to see that we have got and have BEEN visited by other worldly beings for some time? I mean, I am happy to help with this project (whatever you guys are doing with the actual info) but, society is not as dumb and "out of the loop" as the government thinks. I just think it's well past time that the truth be known.

conspiracyman_2000

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. . . Thanks for the Posting CM and Congratulations on Your Upcoming 10th Year with The Project

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OK, so, I've been helping SETI crunch numbers for a few years now. We all know that ET's are here ... we have all seen the UFO's and we all know that they are being kept from the publics view (for whatever reason) but yet, here we sit still "searching" for extra terrestrial intelligence. Ummmmmm what gives? When is the truth going to be put out there for all to see that we have got and have BEEN visited by other worldly beings for some time? I mean, I am happy to help with this project (whatever you guys are doing with the actual info) but, society is not as dumb and "out of the loop" as the government thinks. I just think it's well past time that the truth be known.

conspiracyman_2000

Well, when your questions are answered, we shall also know exactly who shot JFK....
The 'magic bullet' theory never worked for me.........

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OK, so, I've been helping SETI crunch numbers for a few years now. We all know that ET's are here ... we have all seen the UFO's and we all know that they are being kept from the publics view (for whatever reason) but yet, here we sit still "searching" for extra terrestrial intelligence. Ummmmmm what gives? When is the truth going to be put out there for all to see that we have got and have BEEN visited by other worldly beings for some time? I mean, I am happy to help with this project (whatever you guys are doing with the actual info) but, society is not as dumb and "out of the loop" as the government thinks. I just think it's well past time that the truth be known.

conspiracyman_2000

Not to knock your statement, I too believe in the "possibility" of life outside of our own solar system, hence my participation in SETI@Home...but I'd certainly be interested in seeing your "proof" that we have in fact been visited by creatures from another planet.

Bare in mind that "unidentified" flying object does not mean "from another planet".

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I just think it's well past time that the truth be known.

Not gonna happen 'til judgment day... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

Not to knock your statement, I too believe in the "possibility" of life outside of our own solar system, hence my participation in SETI@Home...but I'd certainly be interested in seeing your "proof" that we have in fact been visited by creatures from another planet.

Bare in mind that "unidentified" flying object does not mean "from another planet".

Here ya go... video

go take a look for yourself. Also, why (if there are no alien vehicles or inter galactic travel) would the US Air Force have documents drafted up and steps put in place just for an occasion such as this?
This is just a small sample of what I have available... VERY small.. lots more.

Thanks for commenting btw..
conspiracyman

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Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

OK, so, I've been helping SETI crunch numbers for a few years now. We all know that ET's are here ... we have all seen the UFO's and we all know that they are being kept from the publics view (for whatever reason) but yet, here we sit still "searching" for extra terrestrial intelligence. Ummmmmm what gives? When is the truth going to be put out there for all to see that we have got and have BEEN visited by other worldly beings for some time? I mean, I am happy to help with this project (whatever you guys are doing with the actual info) but, society is not as dumb and "out of the loop" as the government thinks. I just think it's well past time that the truth be known.

conspiracyman_2000

I'm sorry, but do you have any proof that information is being kept from us?

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I'm sorry, but do you have any proof that information is being kept from us?

It is not possible to prove the negative case ...

Of course there were WMD ... the proof is that we cannot find them ...

Try to disprove that .... you cannot ...

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Not to knock your statement, I too believe in the "possibility" of life outside of our own solar system, hence my participation in SETI@Home...but I'd certainly be interested in seeing your "proof" that we have in fact been visited by creatures from another planet.

Bare in mind that "unidentified" flying object does not mean "from another planet".

Here ya go... video

go take a look for yourself. Also, why (if there are no alien vehicles or inter galactic travel) would the US Air Force have documents drafted up and steps put in place just for an occasion such as this?
This is just a small sample of what I have available... VERY small.. lots more.

Thanks for commenting btw..
conspiracyman

It's called a diversion...It's purpose is to maintain the secrecy of our military technology


If you're looking for UFO's that blink on and off your radar and travel in crazy directions, you won't know it's a stealth fighter with vectored thrusting until it's to late....and although I don't have any specifics, I'd bet that technology was 20 years old before we knew it existed.

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I'm sorry, but do you have any proof that information is being kept from us?

It is not possible to prove the negative case ...

Of course there were WMD ... the proof is that we cannot find them ...

Try to disprove that .... you cannot ...

Actually it's closer to the truth to say we did find WMD's, just not in the quantities we expected.

As far as disproving a negative...that's the justification of a religious fanatic, not a scientific mind. You shouldn't believe things as fact simply because it's a plausibility which cannot be disproven at this point in time.

Once upon a time people thought the Earth was flat and that you could fall off the edge...they also believed that the Earth was the center of the universe and all the stars in the heavens rotated around us.

Did our inability to disprove those ideas, at that point in time, make them true? Do you think your "justification" holds any more merit?

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As far as disproving a negative...that's the justification of a religious fanatic, not a scientific mind.

That statement could go both ways... ;)

(I'm still waiting on a valid flaw to be found within my doctrine.)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

Of course there WMD.
Of course there weren't. (Exactly what was ever found?????)

The only WMD found were about 800 rounds of militarily ineffective, deteriorated shells that were as well known to Saddam's supply system as the US AIr Force is showing that it tracks our nuclear weapons...

In other words, yes they used to be WMD (Chemical weapons).

No, they were not usable as weapons.

They were "lost inventory" so that they could not have been used, and we found them by accident.

And just to keep the history straight, they were likely made from the chemical precursor materials we sold them during the Iraq-Iran war ... there is an unforgettable photograph of one of Bush's top guys and Saddam treating each other like bosom buddies ...

And remember, the WMD threat was a "mushroom cloud" and they did not mean the kind that you get from a drug overdose. And if you go back and look a the speeches on the white house site (if they have not taken them down in embarrasement) the president spoke of tens of thousands of tons of these weapons ...

Sorry, 800 or so rounds does not even come close ...

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Of course there WMD.
Of course there weren't. (Exactly what was ever found?????)

The only WMD found were about 800 rounds of militarily ineffective, deteriorated shells that were as well known to Saddam's supply system as the US AIr Force is showing that it tracks our nuclear weapons...

In other words, yes they used to be WMD (Chemical weapons).

No, they were not usable as weapons.

They were "lost inventory" so that they could not have been used, and we found them by accident.

And just to keep the history straight, they were likely made from the chemical precursor materials we sold them during the Iraq-Iran war ... there is an unforgettable photograph of one of Bush's top guys and Saddam treating each other like bosom buddies ...

And remember, the WMD threat was a "mushroom cloud" and they did not mean the kind that you get from a drug overdose. And if you go back and look a the speeches on the white house site (if they have not taken them down in embarrasement) the president spoke of tens of thousands of tons of these weapons ...

Sorry, 800 or so rounds does not even come close ...

As I clearly stated in my previous post, WMD's were found, just not in the quantities we expected.

As for their lethality, would you be willing to lock yourself in a closet full of nerve gas you "assume" to be 20+ years old and therefore "assume" to be non-lethal, or is your little bit of propaganda laced with a great big thread of hypocrisy?

Oh, BTW, we know what happened to the fuses mistakenly shipped to Taiwain (it was a shipping error, not "lost" and therefore unrecoverable inventory), so if Saddam kept track of his inventory as well as the U.S. Air Force, then he in fact knew of their existence and was trying to hide them rather than dispose of them, correct?

Funny how that work, huh?

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Well, just because I am paranoid does not mean that you are not out to get me ... :)

And, even paranoids have enemies... :)

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when is the TRUTH gonna be known....

. . . say whEn

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Well, just because I am paranoid does not mean that you are not out to get me ... :)

And, even paranoids have enemies... :)

Merriam-Webster defines paranoia as:

1 : a psychosis characterized by systematized delusions of persecution or grandeur usually without hallucinations
2 : a tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others

Simply put, without evidence to support your suspicions (such as 800 rounds filled with nerve gas and/or mustard gas), then the logical conclusion is you are in fact suffering from a mental disorder.

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Answering multiple posts ...

Though I have not yet been diagnosed with paranoia (yet), yes I do suffer from mental disease ...

I did not say those shells were safe, I said they were militarily ineffective meaning that though they could cause casualties, their effectiveness was/is significantly degraded.

But I do find the perspectives and passions fascinating ... :)

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excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others

As in: The 'terrorists' are trying to take away our freedoms and our way of life! [rolls-eyes]... ;)

(But thanks for protecting me from all the ghosts, goblins, and shadows.)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

Answering multiple posts ...

Though I have not yet been diagnosed with paranoia (yet), yes I do suffer from mental disease ...

I did not say those shells were safe, I said they were militarily ineffective meaning that though they could cause casualties, their effectiveness was/is significantly degraded.

But I do find the perspectives and passions fascinating ... :)

An improvised explosive device (IED) is a bomb constructed and deployed in ways other than in conventional military action. They may be partially comprised of conventional military explosives, such as an artillery round, attached to a detonating mechanism.

IEDs may be used in terrorist actions or in unconventional warfare by guerrillas or commando forces in a theater of operations. In the 2003–present Iraq War, IEDs have been used extensively against coalition forces and by the end of 2007 they have been responsible for approximately at least 40% of coalition deaths in Iraq.

Simply put, what you deem as "militarily ineffective", the enemy deems as "utilizing the tools at hand" or improvising, as in Improvised Explosive Device (IED).

....and of course, we've already concluded that the WMD's did exist and they were still in fact quite capable of causing harm, or considered to still be "unsafe" to say the least. How much higher do you reckon that percentage of coalition deaths would be if 800 or so of those IED's contained sarin and/or mustard gas even in an assumed deteriorated condition?

Which brings me to my next point, the "lost inventory" comment. If there's no record of their existence, then there's no record of their purchase either, and therefore no way of verifying a "deteriorated" state without someone coming into contact with said chemical....and call me crazy, but I have my doubts about the effectiveness of chemical analysis in the middle of a war zone.

Nobody wants war, but many of us are unwilling to simply "assume" we are safe and disregard the potential danger...especially in a post 9/11 world.

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especially in a post 9/11 world.

The day when a few thugs armed with deadly box cutters rocked your cushy lifestyle... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .