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Message 728673 - Posted: 21 Mar 2008, 14:40:43 UTC


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. . . a story that i have found interesting to relate to other users @ this Cafe SETI



Stories That Value the Lives of Other Tribes

by David Potorti, The Independent Weekly

September 8th, 2004




I will tell you something about stories
[he said]
They aren't just entertainment
Don't be fooled

They are all we have, you see
All we have to fight off illness and death
You don't have anything
If you don't have stories.

Their evil is mighty
But it can't stand up to our stories
So they try to destroy the stories
Let the stories be confused or forgotten

They would like that
They would be happy
Because we would be defenseless then

by ~ Leslie Marmon Silko ~

From Ceremony (a novel)


con't . . .


It's the stories we remember, the stories that reconnect us. And in the absence of the people we loved, they are all we have.

But through our work with September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, we have something more--a deeper understanding of the truth, told through the stories of others.

In the coming years, what kind of stories will people in Iraq and Afghanistan be telling about us?

© September Eleventh Families for Peaceful Tomorrows


. . . 'this particular story' that i bring to you, to create a discourse and dialogue with other users . . .



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. . . quite an Interesting Find on the Net



The Story of Syngenta & Tyrone Hayes at UC Berkeley: The Price of Research


A Berkeley Scientist Says a Corporate Sponsor Tried to Bury his Unwelcome Findings and Then Buy His Silence

by GOLDIE BLUMENSTYK / The Chronicle of Higher Education v.50, i.10, 31oct03


Berkeley, CA — Tyrone Hayes wasn't all that concerned about who was signing the checks when he agreed to do some consulting on one of the most widely used pesticides in the country.

And when the early studies from his laboratory at the University of California at Berkeley began producing hints that the product, the herbicide atrazine, might be inhibiting the

sexual development of male frogs, he was excited. Maybe, he thought, his research would lead to some breakthrough findings. He never imagined just how unenthusiastic his research

sponsors — and others with a financial stake in atrazine — would be about his discovery.


Six frustrating years later, Mr. Hayes and his defenders say they know only too well the lengths to which those companies will go to undermine his findings that atrazine may be harmful.

This week the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is expected to make its final ruling on the reapproval of atrazine. Mr. Hayes and some other scientists believe that the campaign to

discredit him will have played a part in helping the herbicide's primary manufacturer, a company called Syngenta, win that approval.


His colleagues here at Berkeley and around the country say the story is a classic example of the subtle and not-so-subtle tactics that companies sometimes use to influence the outcome

of university research that they pay for . . .



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. . . on December 14th 1960 - The New York Times wrote an Article regarding 'Discovery of Life in Space' ~ gif file ~


'While the discovery of intelligent life in other parts of the universe is not likely in the immediate future, it could nevertheless happen at any time . . .'

. . . an Excerpt: The Day After Contact: Forecasting Reactions to Extraterrestrial Life

by Albert A. Harrison, Ph.D. - University of California, Davis - June, 1999


How will humans handle contact and its aftermath? These may be among the most profound questions that anyone can ask. Years ago, NASA commissioned the Brookings Institute to grapple with such issues, and its report was presented to the 82nd Congress on April 18, 1961. Certain passages from this report are as relevant today as they were almost four decades ago:


While the discovery of intelligent life in other parts of the universe is not likely in the immediate future, it could nevertheless happen at any time. Whenever it does occur its consequences for earth attitudes and values may be profound. Hence a long-term research effort, which would aid in preparing for this possibility, could usefully begin with: A continuing determination of emotional and intellectual understanding and attitudes regarding the possibility and consequences of discovering intelligent extraterrestrial life.

Though intelligent or semi-intelligent life conceivably exists elsewhere in our solar system, if intelligent extraterrestrial life is discovered in the next twenty years, it will probably be by radiotelescope from other solar systems. Evidences of its existence might also be found in artifacts left on the moon or other planets. The consequences for attitudes and values are unpredictable, but would vary profoundly in different cultures and between groups within complex societies; a crucial factor would be the nature of the communication between other beings and us. Whether or not Earth would be inspired to an all-out space effort by such a discovery is moot: societies sure of their own place in the universe have disintegrated when confronted by a superior society, and others have survived even though changed. Clearly, the better we can come to understand the factors involved in responding to such crises the better prepared we may be.

In spite of these words written nearly 40 years ago, there have been few attempts to gauge the consequences to our society of unambiguous evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence on Earth or in our solar system. The NIDS Roper poll was designed to help address this problem



. . . wonder when we're going to begin to 'gauge the consequences to Our Society' again?
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Message 729079 - Posted: 22 Mar 2008, 15:22:28 UTC

Hey Richard!!!

This your thread...I like it!!!

This is not off-topic I hope, it's about Tyrone Hayes and the big corporations in a way.

I just wanted to put a plug in for this new movie I saw, "Michael Clayton" starring George Clooney. It's about these kinds of corporate hijinks and a man who fights against them. It won an Oscar for Tynda as Best Supporting Actress, too.

http://michaelclayton.warnerbros.com/#

"The Insider" is a good movie too, loosely based on real life hijinks in the tobacco industry, and how tough it is to blow the whistle on them.



It's happening though, despite their big bucks and hijinks. The internet is doing a lot to keep the truth alive. :]]

I hope this thread takes off! :]]


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Hey Richard!!!

This your thread...I like it!!!

This is not off-topic I hope, it's about Tyrone Hayes and the big corporations in a way.

I just wanted to put a plug in for this new movie I saw, "Michael Clayton" starring George Clooney. It's about these kinds of corporate hijinks and a man who fights against them. It won an Oscar for Tynda as Best Supporting Actress, too.

http://michaelclayton.warnerbros.com/#

"The Insider" is a good movie too, loosely based on real life hijinks in the tobacco industry, and how tough it is to blow the whistle on them.



It's happening though, despite their big bucks and hijinks. The internet is doing a lot to keep the truth alive. :]]

I hope this thread takes off! :]]



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Appreciate your comments Sir!

'Hopefully' . . . others shall look into the Links and Informations provided in this Thread . . .

. . . this Thread is 'Offically Launched'



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Message 729889 - Posted: 24 Mar 2008, 17:28:28 UTC

Hospital bridles at horse in lift

The hospital's policy is to inspect all animals brought by visitors
A Hawaiian hospital has restated its rules on pets after a man took a horse up in a lift in a bid to cheer up a sick relative with his favourite steed.
Man and beast were stopped by security guards only after reaching the third floor, after apparently passing through the lobby unchallenged.

The patient was allowed to see them but it turned out to be the wrong horse.

A hospital spokeswoman said there was a visitation policy for dogs and cats, but not for horses.

"We just hope people understand this is not a place for a horse," said Lani Yukimura at Wilcox Memorial Hospital.

"It's a very dangerous thing. Our greatest concern is patient care."

Security managed to remove the visitor and the horse with "just a few scuff marks", she added.

According to the Star Bulletin newspaper, the man had arrived after staff at the front desk went home, and called from the lobby to announce his arrival.

After he and the horse were escorted out, he put the animal in a trailer in the car park and left, the paper adds.


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Message 729906 - Posted: 24 Mar 2008, 18:05:33 UTC

Peru tribe battles oil giant over pollution
By Dan Collyns
BBC News, Loreto, Peru



Tomas Maynas says fish died and crops wilted
It is a familiar story. Big business moves into a pristine wilderness and starts destroying the environment and by turn the livelihoods of the indigenous people who live there.
But in a reversal of plot, there are now cases of people living traditional lifestyles who are now invading the territory of the big companies and taking them on at their own game.

The story of the Achuar tribe living in the Amazon rainforest of north-eastern Peru is one of them.

Last year, they filed a class action lawsuit against oil giant Occidental Petroleum, in Los Angeles.

Now they are awaiting a judge's decision on whether the case can proceed in the US or will be sent back to Peru, where it stands little chance of coming to court.

'No credible data

The Achuar people, who have lived for thousands of years in the rainforest, allege that the company contaminated their territory during more than 30 years of oil drilling, making their people sick, even causing some to die, and damaging their land and livelihoods beyond repair.

Occidental Petroleum, which pulled out of Peru eight years ago, denies liability in the case.


Oil spills are still found, the Achuar say
It has responded, saying: "We are aware of no credible data of negative community health impacts resulting from Occidental's operations in Peru."

The oil bonanza began in Peru almost 40 years ago when many foreign companies were given an open invitation by successive governments to test and drill in the Amazon.

What they did not consider was the devastating impact it would have on the native people, principally the Achuar - their land, their livelihood and their health.

The Achuar's spiritual leader, Tomas Maynas, wears a bright red headdress made of toucan feathers, and has red war paint streaked on his face. He is the plaintiff in the suit against the company.

He remembers how everything changed when the oil companies arrived. He says the animals ran away, the fish died and their crops started to wilt.


A whole generation had their health damaged. How can we keep quiet as our parents did

Petronila Chumpi
"The Peruvian state just wants to extract as much oil as they can from our land. They've made millions of dollars but we haven't seen it here.

"We know there's wealth here and there'll be more drilling so the state will keep on killing us. But sometimes, when there is pressure, the state gives in."

The lawsuit alleges Occidental Petroleum ignored industry standards and employed out-of-date practices, dumping around 9bn barrels of toxic waste water into streams and rivers over 30 years.

After Occidental left, its operations were taken over by Pluspetrol.

Pluspetrol agreed to change practices in late 2006 when the Achuar, after repeated attempts to negotiate, took direct action.


Shotguns and spears


Many of the older Achuar men once fought in tribal wars with their neighbours, now they finally had the chance to hit their elusive new enemies where it hurt - in their pockets.

Peacefully, yet armed with shotguns and spears, they occupied and held the Amazon oil wells in October 2006.


The ecosystem is the genetic bank of the Amazon...that is our capital, the genetic bank that we have to preserve for humanity, and for the world

Ivan Vasquez
Loreto regional president
The government and the company, losing millions of dollars a day, were forced to come to the negotiating table.

The Achuar came away with a commitment from Pluspetrol to reduce contamination and to pay millions of dollars to clean up and establish a 10-year health plan.

It was thanks to help from outside but also a new generation of indigenous leaders who are learning how to protect their rights in the modern world.

"A whole generation had their health damaged. How can we keep quiet as our parents did?" asks 29-year-old Petronila Chumpi.

"We can't allow this, we're a new generation, we know how to read and write and we have to help our people because they didn't have the knowledge to defend themselves against the oil companies. But now we do."

Improvement

Even on a fast motorboat, Trompeteros is a long day's journey up three rain-swollen rivers from Loreto's regional capital, Iquitos. A hamlet of some 3,000 people, it is situated right opposite Block Eight, one of the main oil wells.


The Achuar have lived in the region for thousands of years
Local people say there is still contamination and oil spills, but now the Achuar have GPS transceivers to log the problems where they find them.

Little by little there are signs of improvement.

But there is frustration on the part of Pluspetrol, which has pledged to pay millions of dollars, that the government is not playing a bigger role.

"This oil industry should be of benefit for everybody - maybe today it's not of benefit to indigenous people and the government should find the best way to solve that problem," says Roberto Ramallo, general manager of Pluspetrol Norte.

But the problem is that the Achuar and other tribes live on top of potentially enormous reserves of crude oil.

Thanks to an intense drive to auction it off, almost three-quarters of the Peruvian Amazon is leased for oil exploration and extraction.

High global demand and the price of oil is also making companies look at the Peruvian Amazon as an attractive prospect, but is it sustainable?

"All of this petroleum exploration in the Amazon is a grand experiment," says Bill Powers of E-Tech, a not-for-profit engineering firm.

"It's just coming into the jungle, developing the resource, getting the economic benefit and historically it's been whatever happens to whoever was there before, happens.

"There's no plan, there's no effort made to ensure that they maintain their cultural integrity or that they have something to do once the rivers and the forest don't provide what they used to provide."

Future plans

Carbon trading schemes have yet to reach this part of the Amazon and the oil boom is not the only threat.

President Alan Garcia has proposed privatising large areas of the rainforest, but local officials say the government in Lima does not understand the impact this would have.


Pluspetrol Norte says oil should benefit everyone
The regional president of Loreto, Ivan Vasquez, says the Amazon needs to preserve its diversity at all costs.

"The ecosystem is the genetic bank of the Amazon, as it brings together genetic matrices which don't exist anywhere else - thousands of interconnected genetic bases.

"That is our capital, the genetic bank that we have to preserve for humanity, and for the world."

The Achuar have so far rejected new oil exploration on their territory.

Their story is an emblematic case of resistance for indigenous Amazonians and is unprecedented in Peru.

But the Peruvian rainforest, the biggest stretch of Amazon outside Brazil, is still the focus of the relentless global hunt to find new sources of fossil fuels.



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Message 730179 - Posted: 25 Mar 2008, 10:12:59 UTC
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. . . always found Tesla of Interest:




Communicating with Mars: The Experiments of Tesla & Hodowanec

by Robert A. Nelson Copyright 1998



"While Nikola Tesla was conducting experiments with his Magnifying Transmitter at Colorado Springs in 1899,

he detected coherent signals which he determined had originated on Mars. Tesla was widely criticized for his

astounding claims, yet no one could seriously dispute him, for he was a solo pioneer without peer. No one

since then has reported constructing a Magnifying Transmitter or otherwise replicated his experiment, so the

issue remains unresolved and the mystery unsolved. Tesla revealed no technical details in his pronouncements

and publications of that period, other than the pertinent patents.
His Colorado Springs notebooks were

published in the 1980s, but they make no mention of his alleged contact with Mars."



Tesla elaborated on the subject of "Talking with the Planets" in Collier's Weekly (March 1901): more . . .


< Searching Tesla's Room after His Death . . . FBI NYC Director- VEST - FBI File January 12, 1943



. . . NIKOLA TESLA BIBLIOGRAPHY


> "A partial list of scientific papers and articles by Nikola Tesla and others about Tesla's work in the field of electrical engineering"


< Index of United States Patents . . . Tesla (pdf files)


< TSSP: Tesla Secondary Simulation Project . . .

"An Internet collaboration exploring the physics of Tesla resonators"


< TSSP: Tesla Coil Gallery . . .

"A collection of graphs, animations, and sounds, for Tesla coils at various tunings and couplings"


< Tesla Coil Sites & Resources . . .



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Very scientific articles....odd in the Cafe


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Message 730287 - Posted: 25 Mar 2008, 22:39:15 UTC - in response to Message 729906.  

If I were to decide anything in that matter, I would force all oil companies (and those exploiting other subterranean ressources) to leave all rain-forests and other sensitive parts of nature asap, and to re-build the already spoiled parts as good as possible and refund the people whom they caused damage by the drilling or digging, without the allowance to increase the prizes for these ressources to buffer that.
But unfortunately I don't have a say in that subject... :,(
Peru tribe battles oil giant over pollution
By Dan Collyns
BBC News, Loreto, Peru



Tomas Maynas says fish died and crops wilted
It is a familiar story. Big business moves into a pristine wilderness and starts destroying the environment and by turn the livelihoods of the indigenous people who live there.
But in a reversal of plot, there are now cases of people living traditional lifestyles who are now invading the territory of the big companies and taking them on at their own game.

The story of the Achuar tribe living in the Amazon rainforest of north-eastern Peru is one of them.

Last year, they filed a class action lawsuit against oil giant Occidental Petroleum, in Los Angeles.

Now they are awaiting a judge's decision on whether the case can proceed in the US or will be sent back to Peru, where it stands little chance of coming to court.

'No credible data

The Achuar people, who have lived for thousands of years in the rainforest, allege that the company contaminated their territory during more than 30 years of oil drilling, making their people sick, even causing some to die, and damaging their land and livelihoods beyond repair.

Occidental Petroleum, which pulled out of Peru eight years ago, denies liability in the case.


Oil spills are still found, the Achuar say
It has responded, saying: "We are aware of no credible data of negative community health impacts resulting from Occidental's operations in Peru."

The oil bonanza began in Peru almost 40 years ago when many foreign companies were given an open invitation by successive governments to test and drill in the Amazon.

What they did not consider was the devastating impact it would have on the native people, principally the Achuar - their land, their livelihood and their health.

The Achuar's spiritual leader, Tomas Maynas, wears a bright red headdress made of toucan feathers, and has red war paint streaked on his face. He is the plaintiff in the suit against the company.

He remembers how everything changed when the oil companies arrived. He says the animals ran away, the fish died and their crops started to wilt.


A whole generation had their health damaged. How can we keep quiet as our parents did

Petronila Chumpi
"The Peruvian state just wants to extract as much oil as they can from our land. They've made millions of dollars but we haven't seen it here.

"We know there's wealth here and there'll be more drilling so the state will keep on killing us. But sometimes, when there is pressure, the state gives in."

The lawsuit alleges Occidental Petroleum ignored industry standards and employed out-of-date practices, dumping around 9bn barrels of toxic waste water into streams and rivers over 30 years.

After Occidental left, its operations were taken over by Pluspetrol.

Pluspetrol agreed to change practices in late 2006 when the Achuar, after repeated attempts to negotiate, took direct action.


Shotguns and spears


Many of the older Achuar men once fought in tribal wars with their neighbours, now they finally had the chance to hit their elusive new enemies where it hurt - in their pockets.

Peacefully, yet armed with shotguns and spears, they occupied and held the Amazon oil wells in October 2006.


The ecosystem is the genetic bank of the Amazon...that is our capital, the genetic bank that we have to preserve for humanity, and for the world

Ivan Vasquez
Loreto regional president
The government and the company, losing millions of dollars a day, were forced to come to the negotiating table.

The Achuar came away with a commitment from Pluspetrol to reduce contamination and to pay millions of dollars to clean up and establish a 10-year health plan.

It was thanks to help from outside but also a new generation of indigenous leaders who are learning how to protect their rights in the modern world.

"A whole generation had their health damaged. How can we keep quiet as our parents did?" asks 29-year-old Petronila Chumpi.

"We can't allow this, we're a new generation, we know how to read and write and we have to help our people because they didn't have the knowledge to defend themselves against the oil companies. But now we do."

Improvement

Even on a fast motorboat, Trompeteros is a long day's journey up three rain-swollen rivers from Loreto's regional capital, Iquitos. A hamlet of some 3,000 people, it is situated right opposite Block Eight, one of the main oil wells.


The Achuar have lived in the region for thousands of years
Local people say there is still contamination and oil spills, but now the Achuar have GPS transceivers to log the problems where they find them.

Little by little there are signs of improvement.

But there is frustration on the part of Pluspetrol, which has pledged to pay millions of dollars, that the government is not playing a bigger role.

"This oil industry should be of benefit for everybody - maybe today it's not of benefit to indigenous people and the government should find the best way to solve that problem," says Roberto Ramallo, general manager of Pluspetrol Norte.

But the problem is that the Achuar and other tribes live on top of potentially enormous reserves of crude oil.

Thanks to an intense drive to auction it off, almost three-quarters of the Peruvian Amazon is leased for oil exploration and extraction.

High global demand and the price of oil is also making companies look at the Peruvian Amazon as an attractive prospect, but is it sustainable?

"All of this petroleum exploration in the Amazon is a grand experiment," says Bill Powers of E-Tech, a not-for-profit engineering firm.

"It's just coming into the jungle, developing the resource, getting the economic benefit and historically it's been whatever happens to whoever was there before, happens.

"There's no plan, there's no effort made to ensure that they maintain their cultural integrity or that they have something to do once the rivers and the forest don't provide what they used to provide."

Future plans

Carbon trading schemes have yet to reach this part of the Amazon and the oil boom is not the only threat.

President Alan Garcia has proposed privatising large areas of the rainforest, but local officials say the government in Lima does not understand the impact this would have.


Pluspetrol Norte says oil should benefit everyone
The regional president of Loreto, Ivan Vasquez, says the Amazon needs to preserve its diversity at all costs.

"The ecosystem is the genetic bank of the Amazon, as it brings together genetic matrices which don't exist anywhere else - thousands of interconnected genetic bases.

"That is our capital, the genetic bank that we have to preserve for humanity, and for the world."

The Achuar have so far rejected new oil exploration on their territory.

Their story is an emblematic case of resistance for indigenous Amazonians and is unprecedented in Peru.

But the Peruvian rainforest, the biggest stretch of Amazon outside Brazil, is still the focus of the relentless global hunt to find new sources of fossil fuels.




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. . . an Interest - in the NeuroSciences - i became professionally involved in 2005 (started with a car accident back in 1999)

@ Present i am facilitating the use of a Clinical sEMG Device - for the Re-Habilitation of my Neurophysiological System . . .


Electromyography, or EMG, is used to diagnose nerve and muscle dysfunction and spinal cord disease . . .



A Computer in Your Head? by Dr. Eric H. Chudler

"Brain Awareness Week (BAW) is a series of events held around the world to increase public awareness about the brain." more . . .



Public Education & Outreach . . .


National Capital Area Brain Bee . . .


'Brain Awareness Week Proclamation - Washington DC' - pdf Page



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. . . Concerning Dialogue



Date of Issue - October 09, 2001


In November 1998, the General Assembly of the United Nations in a unanimous resolution proclaimed 2001 as the "United Nations Year of Dialogue among Civilizations".

In doing so the assembly rejected the concept of a "Clash of Civilizations" which is based on the notion that inter-civilizational understanding is impossible.


The General Assembly expressed its firm determination to facilitate just such a dialogue, which is aimed at increasing mutual understanding and tolerance among peoples

of different cultural backgrounds, through an active exchange of ideas, visions and aspirations . . .


Dialogue Among Civilizations . . .

International Child Art Foundation . . .

United Nations year of Dialogue among civilizations in the year - 2001 . . .


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Mafia king on the straight and narrow

By Heather Alexander
BBC News, New York



Hill can now revisit old stomping grounds without fear of retribution
GoodFellas was the definitive mafia film - and it is the story of one man, Henry Hill, one of the only survivors of a ruthless gang of robbers and killers.

Hill walked the streets of New York as a king - an associate of the Lucchese crime family. He stole big, he spent big and took vast quantities of drugs.

Then he got caught and spent 30 years in the witness protection programme, telling the police all they needed to know to put his mafia bosses behind bars.

"I couldn't walk around this neighbourhood ten years ago," he says standing, smoking outside Junior's diner in Long Island City. "There'd be bullets flying all over the place."

His morning started with fried calamari washed down with a glass of wine and a shot of whiskey. But it was not the Dutch courage that meant he dared to visit his old haunting grounds on this murky spring day.

"I'm old enough to die, just as long as they do it quickly," he says, pointing to his forehead.

If you can't love two people at once, there's something wrong with you


Hill is a very different looking man from the one shown on the big screen. He is short, grey-haired, with lines on his face.

A cigarette barely leaves his hand. The same goes for a bottle of beer.

After Junior's, it was on to his mistress's house. She was called Janice Rossi in the film, Linda in real life, and Hill confirms the famous scene where his wife, Karen, is madly pressing apartment buzzers and screaming that Janice is a "whore".

But he says in reality he was in the apartment too and had to climb down the drainpipe to get out and reach home before Karen returned.

Hill says: "If you can't love two people at once, there's something wrong with you."


Hill has no idea how many millions of dollars he stole or spent

I point out that his wife probably did not see it that way. "Obviously she didn't," says Hill.

After a short interlude where he tries to persuade a traffic warden not to give us a ticket - "Sistergirl, please," he says - we are off to Robert's Lounge.

The club was owned by Jimmy Burke (Robert de Niro's character in the film) and was the scene of Spider's (played by Michael Imperioli) death.

"Spider was killed in the basement," Hill says. He describes the dark room filling up with smoke and the deafening echo of bullets in the tiny space.

He says Spider was buried in the basement along with several others killed there or nearby over the years. With a grim look he says: "This is a graveyard."

'Bust some heads'

GoodFellas contained several scenes of visceral, shocking violence and it was not an exaggeration.

Joe Coffee became a policeman because the mafia shot his dad. It happened when he was eight and they did it right in front of him.

"GoodFellas is probably the best mafia movie as far as showing them for what they really are," he says today.

"The Godfather, Casino, they show them as sort of folk heroes. GoodFellas pins them down to exactly what they are - street thugs."

We stole anything we could sell


Hill says he never killed anyone although he did ''bust some heads", and he admits he does not know whether his victims lived or died.

He smiles as he talks of how much he stole, though.

"We stole anything we could sell," he says, as we pass a Bulova watch factory.

He claims they used to stake out the trucks as they brought shipments in and then hold up and pay off the drivers. The watches could then be sold on the black market.

His most famous crime was the Lufthansa robbery of 1978 when a reported $5m (£2.5m) was taken from a vault at New York's John F Kennedy International Airport.

Pasta sauce

Hill says the police told him more than $100m (£50m) had gone through his hands, although he himself has no idea how much he stole and spent.

He knows where it went though: "Slow horses, drugs and rock and roll."

Now he makes his money selling his story. He is promoting a new Sky Movies mafia season, and has written several books (including a cookbook - real spaghetti and marinara sauce, not egg noodles and ketchup).

He adds that he made half a million dollars advising on GoodFellas.

I ask him how he thought the victims of his crimes would feel knowing about that.

He takes a drag of his cigarette and replies: "Do you know something? I don't give a heck what those people think, I'm doing the right thing now."

Henry Hill was speaking to Heather Alexander for BBC News 24's E24 programme.

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. . . regarding an Issue i have paid strict attention to:



The Respect Women Webring . . .


Women have been taught that, for us, the earth is flat, and that if we venture out, we will fall off the edge. ~ Author Unknown ~


Real Men Respect Women's Equality . . .


Not only is it harder for a woman in our fine American society of absolute equality and justice to actually secure employment, but once she does, she is all but guaranteed to be under the yoke of a male supervisor and to be paid substantially less than her male counterparts. Furthermore, she may very well soon find herself being the object of sexual harassment or being passed up for a promotion.

Outside of the working world, females are constantly demeaned. This occurs not only in the aforementioned dress and language, but also in sporting events, cultural events and political events.

What happens when women speak out against their oppression? They are called many colorful euphemisms analogous with "lesbian." There is nothing wrong with being a lesbian, nor does it have any bearing whatsoever on any given individual's life whether or not someone else is homosexual, and the whole fact our society is so homophobic and cares about sexual orientation to begin with is just sad. Furthermore, it is just as depressing to see men react to women asserting their rights in such a manner, for it shows just how scared men are of having to actually see women as equals.

Women take note, nothing pisses off a real masculine guy more than a women actually thinking for themselves and doing something to right the inequality that is pervasive in our society. So please, speak up.


by Chris Donnelly



. . . most of this Post refers to American Woman (USA) - What Issues are Related in Your Country ?




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. . . "The less shared awareness, the more likely a breakdown will occur" ~ John M. Carroll - Penn State ~


Engagement Theory: A framework for technology-based teaching and learning . . .

~ by Greg Kearsley & Ben Shneiderman ~ also Author of Leonardo's Laptop



Engagement theory has emerged from the authors' experiences teaching in electronic and distance education environments (see Shneiderman, 1994,1998; Shneiderman et al, 1995; Kearsley, 1997).

The fundamental idea underlying engagement theory is that students must be meaningfully engaged in learning activities through interaction with others and worthwhile tasks. While in principle,

such engagement could occur without the use of technology, we believe that technology can facilitate engagement in ways which are difficult to achieve otherwise. So engagement theory is intended

to be a conceptual framework for technology-based learning and teaching.




By engaged learning, we mean that all student activities involve active cognitive processes such as creating, problem-solving, reasoning, decision-making, and evaluation.

In addition, students are intrinsically motivated to learn due to the meaningful nature of the learning environment and activities.






Engagement theory is based upon the idea of creating successful collaborative teams that work on ambitious projects that are meaningful to someone outside the classroom.

These three components, summarized by Relate-Create-Donate, imply that learning activities:

1. occur in a group context (i.e., collaborative teams)
2. are project-based
3. have an outside (authentic) focus





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A Comprehensive Analysis of Language . . .



Abstract

This study is an attempt to show that language is a multidimensional phenomenon and an adequate account of language use can be achieved

only by a comprehensive analysis from all those dimensions: phonological, semantic, syntactic, discourse and pragmatic.


It uses the ba-construction (ba-c) in contemporary Mandarin Chinese as an example . . .


The present study used natural data, a computer program and controlled experiments to investigate the factors that are relevant to the application of the ba-c.

The basic corpus consisted of 10,008 verb phrases divided equally among conative, representational and expressive functions and between spoken and written modes





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SETI Social Club + Cafe SETI (The Experiment) - The Interplanetary Internet . . . requiring detailed cooperation between the space communications community

and the groups that set standards for Internet communications


JPL's Interplanetary Internet . . . 23 August 1999


What the new JPL project is trying to do is to take the technologies that are emerging for wireless and satellite communications on Earth

and move them off the planet. The task is to organize various research groups to develop standardized procedures and protocols that will make the

Internet work in space, Hooke said. It requires detailed cooperation between the space communications community and the groups that set standards

for Internet communications



. . . and here's MRO. . . the first link in a communications bridge back to Earth -- an "interplanetary Internet" that can be used by spacecraft in coming years - 12 May 2006


> in conclusion 'a Start' the Actual Wiring up the solar system certainly seems like the next big challenge . . .


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. . . a reason for being 'Part of the SETI Project'

. . . VIDEO: Watch the MRO Travel to Mars MRO Trajectory - Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter’s trajectory upon first insertion to Mars

> one might also want to see this Image Gallery . . .


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'The Graphic View shows a graphical representation of the current work in progress.
Each project implements and shows its own unique graphics'


. . . You All might want to see this: Android - An Open Handset Alliance Project



The Android platform is a software stack for mobile devices including an operating system, middleware and key applications.

Developers can create applications for the platform using the Android SDK. Applications are written using the Java programming

language and run on Dalvik, a custom virtual machine designed for embedded use which runs on top of a Linux kernel.


If you want to know how to develop applications for Android, you're in the right place. This site provides a variety of documentation

that will help you learn about Android and develop mobile applications for the platform.


An early look at the the Android SDK is also available. It includes sample projects with source code, development tools, an emulator,

and of course all the libraries you'll need to build an Android application




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. . . Special Thanks to Johnney Guinness for Originally bringing SETI@home Users Dedication to the Memory of Sir Arthur C Clarke

> Berkeley has Posted - on the Front Page a Link to this Dedication . . .

Thanks to All SETI Crunchers that assisted in this Effort

- A Tribute i am quite sure Sir Arthur Appreciates from his position . . .


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