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What advantage has come since the EU for the average person anyway? None. Quite the opposite.
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What advantage has come since the EU for the average person anyway? None. Quite the opposite.
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You mean aside from the longest period in the last 5 centuries without any of the member states being at war with another?

Or aside from being able to work anywhere within the EU's borders?

Or aside from the removal of currency exchange costs when going from one (Euro) member state to another on vacation?

But what about large scale corruption within the EU commission itself?

Personally, I think it will be the biggest mistake ever made!

But I go even further in my point of view. Not only that I think that the EC has a too huge impact on the national legal, political and economical systems of the EU countries...

But at the same time the companies in THEIR countries are offering jobs and dare to ask OUR employment centers to send them workers! Hallo? Why don't they take workers from their own country at first? There are enough unemployed but qualified people in these countries, too!

But at the same time the companies in THEIR countries are offering jobs and dare to ask OUR employment centers to send them workers! Hallo? Why don't they take workers from their own country at first? There are enough unemployed but qualified people in these countries, too!

...because, at least speaking in terms of the H1-B worker here in the United States, "you" (general sense) are much "cheaper". The company does not have to pay the employer side of the Social Security system fees (currently 7.65%), nor do they have to pay for benefits (vacation, health insurance, matching retirement funds, worker's compensation, etc...)

American workers are "expensive" to American companies, but that term "expensive" seems to look only at a raw dollar amount and mostly ignores the benefits of native language speaking, matching cultures, and the drag on the economy that is caused by "laying off" someone and reducing or eliminating their Disposable Income, etc...

But much of the subsequent law, etc, has been totally worthless, and only to the benefit of the Politicians at the top or those with their snouts in the trough!

But I go even further in my point of view. Not only that I think that the EC has a too huge impact on the national legal, political and economical systems of the EU countries, I think even the introduction of the Euro as a common currency came way too early, like putting the cart before the horse.
In my opinion, the countries better should have been given the possibility to reach a similar economic level before even thinking about such a thing as founding the EU (even though it had developed out of the ECSC which I think already was a mistake in itself). I think the Euro and the EC should be disestablished asap, giving the current members their sovereignty and their own currencies back - with the option to re-establish the EU, IF all citizens of all European countries express their wish to be united that way with a referendum.

What advantage has come since the EU for the average person anyway? None. Quite the opposite.

Even the introduction of the Euro had a huge disadvantage: when the Euro became official currency, it meant an almost 100% inflation (at least in Germany), because all prizes had the same digits like in DM but in Euro instead (with € 1 = DM 1,9588, so that a thing that did cost 1 DM the day before did cost 1 Euro then), while all wages and social welfare incomes had been cut in half according to that exchange rate.

Check out this article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Europe
..its a reference in the encyclopedia to a potential "United States of Europe" which may possibly come about in the future.

What do people think to it?

"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

I voted to come out of the EU or Common Market as it was once known, and I have been proved right, but it gives me no satisfaction to see that. There is wholesale corruption across the bureaucratic process running it, and even the UK MEP's all have their snouts in the trough milking it for every cent they can get.

What is the worse aspect of it is the loss of National identity, with a universal currency and Euro style passport. Perhaps it was a nuisance having to change Marks into Francs and then into Pesetas, and back into Pounds, but that was half the fun of going abroad in the first place. A lot of business was based on the US dollar anyway, and there was the "Green Pound" for agriculture.

I am not just British, I am proud to be English, and when some petty little Johnny Foreigner in Brussels tells me that I am not allowed to buy potatoes in pounds and ounces in my corner shop, then I feel like declaring UDI and shoving a long pole with a Union Jack on it, up where it doesn't shine. I won't be responsible for the consequences the day the EU bans pints in pubs as a measure.

A pal of mine has covered the EU flag symbol on his car number plate with a Union Jack, and he has already been stopped by the police and warned he can be prosecuted. I hate the EU and everything it stands for with a great passion, sadly I have to accept I am in the minority, the politicians and business rule these days, the man in the street is of no consquence any more.

Since all of our countries have different cultures i´m not scared about that.

China and Japan are doing this over 500 years by the way.

But it's the future of our cultures that does scare me Mike. The politicians in the UK have already shown that they are weak and unable to stand up to Brussels. They are selling our heritage down the river as I speak. Are other countries faring any better?