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Message 726694 - Posted: 15 Mar 2008, 23:37:47 UTC - in response to Message 726688.  

Clicking on the photo opened some kind of girly window, full screen and was impossible to close. Thanks for the junk!

Excuse me Geek, I also opened the picture and it was a normal graph. No junk whatsoever...

I clicked on his chart and the image opened up from image shack. BEHIND that window another window opened up, full screen and I could not close it. That window downloaded a bunch of crap that my virus detector fired up on most of it. I finally got task manager to close the offending window and cleaned up the registry and all the rest that **** that downloaded with it.

All I know is that it happened at the same exact instant I opened up his link to image shack. Probably some trash provided by the Image Shack and not from Fred's link.

Check what else might be on your PC... Your browser or PC picked up a few 'add-ons'?...

I also got only a clean image of just a chart. (Using Firefox.)

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Message 726704 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 0:06:06 UTC - in response to Message 726694.  

Clicking on the photo opened some kind of girly window, full screen and was impossible to close. Thanks for the junk!

Excuse me Geek, I also opened the picture and it was a normal graph. No junk whatsoever...

I clicked on his chart and the image opened up from image shack. BEHIND that window another window opened up, full screen and I could not close it. That window downloaded a bunch of crap that my virus detector fired up on most of it. I finally got task manager to close the offending window and cleaned up the registry and all the rest that **** that downloaded with it.

All I know is that it happened at the same exact instant I opened up his link to image shack. Probably some trash provided by the Image Shack and not from Fred's link.

Check what else might be on your PC... Your browser or PC picked up a few 'add-ons'?...

I also got only a clean image of just a chart. (Using Firefox.)

Good luck,
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My Firefox browser notified me that it blocked a pop-up. Perhaps Geek@Play's browser doesn't have pop-ups blocked?
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Message 726707 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 0:06:53 UTC

Hmmmmm...I got the girly thingy in a back window as well.....
Must be Imageshack mucking about........
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Message 726726 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 0:35:07 UTC - in response to Message 726684.  

Very few results to go on yet, but this is starting to look interesting...


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Well thanks for that Fred............

Clicking on the photo opened some kind of girly window, full screen and was impossible to close. Thanks for the junk!


Hey, Geek. Don't know where the junk came from - certainly not my machine. And I haven't heard any bad reports about ImageShack hosting (other than that Alinator doesn't seem to be able to open the images on there posted by either me or Richard H - can't explain that one either).

I'm sorry that it caused you so much hassle - but I am at loss as to what caused it.

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Message 726754 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 1:36:49 UTC - in response to Message 726704.  


My Firefox browser notified me that it blocked a pop-up. Perhaps Geek@Play's browser doesn't have pop-ups blocked?


It's a pop-under...or some such. It happens in IE with that web add-on thing firing. Repeated attempts at going to the same image link do not cause the issue, so apparently when you say NO to adding the add-on, it's fine... It happened to me, and by "girly", it isn't meaning "naked women", but to some "profilepimp" thing for MySpace to add "girly" (as in "things girls would think are pretty") items to a MySpace profile...

I'd suggest to Fred to do the direct link trick that Richard Haselgrove does. I never click on the images for Imageshack except for the direct links due to the same rude behavior by Imageshack in getting advertising money by firing off to other web sites...
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Message 726758 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 1:55:12 UTC - in response to Message 726754.  
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My Firefox browser notified me that it blocked a pop-up. Perhaps Geek@Play's browser doesn't have pop-ups blocked?


It's a pop-under...or some such.


Hmmm... my Firefox blocks those pop-unders too. But it seems we've gotten off topic again.
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Message 726771 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 3:09:50 UTC - in response to Message 726726.  

Very few results to go on yet, but this is starting to look interesting...


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Well thanks for that Fred............

Clicking on the photo opened some kind of girly window, full screen and was impossible to close. Thanks for the junk!


Hey, Geek. Don't know where the junk came from - certainly not my machine. And I haven't heard any bad reports about ImageShack hosting (other than that Alinator doesn't seem to be able to open the images on there posted by either me or Richard H - can't explain that one either).

I'm sorry that it caused you so much hassle - but I am at loss as to what caused it.

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Fred.........it's not your fault, you have nothing to apologize for. ImageShack is doing it. I'm glad Mark saw it pop up also. I probably overreacted a bit. I don't like it when unexpected things happen on my main box. Sorry for the panic on my end.

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Message 726777 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 3:22:43 UTC - in response to Message 726771.  

Very few results to go on yet, but this is starting to look interesting...


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Well thanks for that Fred............

Clicking on the photo opened some kind of girly window, full screen and was impossible to close. Thanks for the junk!


Hey, Geek. Don't know where the junk came from - certainly not my machine. And I haven't heard any bad reports about ImageShack hosting (other than that Alinator doesn't seem to be able to open the images on there posted by either me or Richard H - can't explain that one either).

I'm sorry that it caused you so much hassle - but I am at loss as to what caused it.

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Fred.........it's not your fault, you have nothing to apologize for. ImageShack is doing it. I'm glad Mark saw it pop up also. I probably overreacted a bit. I don't like it when unexpected things happen on my main box. Sorry for the panic on my end.


Oh yes, Fred......not your fault....
Please do keep posting your wonderful graphs......
Your time and effort in doing so is greatly appreciated.......

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Message 726795 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 4:37:49 UTC - in response to Message 726777.  



Oh yes, Fred......not your fault....
Please do keep posting your wonderful graphs......
Your time and effort in doing so is greatly appreciated.......


Now I understand why I didn't get any junk from that picture AND what made us come back to the subject of this thread at the same time : I watched it from within Linux. :-)
My Firefox also blocks these pop-ups and I probably got a message about it as well but didn't see it.

To continue with the subject: As I wrote earlier I am now working with Mandriva and things go as they should. I now get the "same" results as I got with the Windows version.

One thing I have to mention though: I did change something in the BIOS which I forgot to tell earlier: I switched off the Intel Speedstep. So now the processors are always running on full speed. This means it didn't have to do anything with Fedora or Mandriva. There is a difference though between Windows and Linux concerning the Speedstep which makes the Windows version run at full speed and the Linux version really using Speedstep because of the low priority the Boinc software uses.

So for you out there who had the same differences as I had between Windows and Linux: check your Speedstep setting in the BIOS.
Success.

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Message 726845 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 9:10:40 UTC - in response to Message 726754.  


My Firefox browser notified me that it blocked a pop-up. Perhaps Geek@Play's browser doesn't have pop-ups blocked?


It's a pop-under...or some such. It happens in IE with that web add-on thing firing. Repeated attempts at going to the same image link do not cause the issue, so apparently when you say NO to adding the add-on, it's fine... It happened to me, and by "girly", it isn't meaning "naked women", but to some "profilepimp" thing for MySpace to add "girly" (as in "things girls would think are pretty") items to a MySpace profile...

I'd suggest to Fred to do the direct link trick that Richard Haselgrove does. I never click on the images for Imageshack except for the direct links due to the same rude behavior by Imageshack in getting advertising money by firing off to other web sites...


At the risk of extending the Off Topic by one more post:

Thanks, Brian, for the suggestion. In future I will use ONLY the direct links from ImageShack to try to circumvent this problem (the thumbnails have always seemed pretty pointless anyway).

Cheers,

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Message 727060 - Posted: 16 Mar 2008, 17:34:32 UTC - in response to Message 726795.  



Now I understand why I didn't get any junk from that picture AND what made us come back to the subject of this thread at the same time : I watched it from within Linux. :-)
My Firefox also blocks these pop-ups and I probably got a message about it as well but didn't see it.

To continue with the subject: As I wrote earlier I am now working with Mandriva and things go as they should. I now get the "same" results as I got with the Windows version.

One thing I have to mention though: I did change something in the BIOS which I forgot to tell earlier: I switched off the Intel Speedstep. So now the processors are always running on full speed. This means it didn't have to do anything with Fedora or Mandriva. There is a difference though between Windows and Linux concerning the Speedstep which makes the Windows version run at full speed and the Linux version really using Speedstep because of the low priority the Boinc software uses.

So for you out there who had the same differences as I had between Windows and Linux: check your Speedstep setting in the BIOS.
Success.


Today I also increased the processor frequency in the BIOS. Instead of 2.4GHz, I now have 2.7GHz. Temperature is not climbing too much because of 4 fans who manage to keep things pretty cool.
This way I hope to regain some of the lost RAC during the last weeks. I used to crunch 24/7 and had a RAC of 2400 per day. Then I started to switch off the computer during the day and I fell down to around 1500. Now it is slowly climbing again, part because the computer runs the whole weekend, part of the increase of frequency.


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Message 743069 - Posted: 23 Apr 2008, 9:21:52 UTC - in response to Message 725163.  

I see the same behavior on my laptop running Ubuntu. Idle processes do not cause the kernel to initiate CPU power level change. You can change this behavior with the cpufreq-selector command. To make the CPU run at full speed all the time, just type this command into a terminal:
sudo cpufreq-selector -g performance

This causes the kernel to use the "performance" governor to determine when speedstep/powernow features are enabled. The other governors that are available are powersave, conservative, ondemand and userspace. I believe the default one is "ondemand" which, as the name suggests, keeps the CPU at low speed unless more power is needed. You can also lock the CPU in at a specific frequency with this command:
sudo cpufreq-selector -f 1670000

The 1670000 means 1.67 GHz (my CPU can run at 1, 1.67 or 2 GHz).

I'm sure there is some GNOME/KDE interface to this feature that doesn't require breaking out a terminal but thats the quick and dirty way :)

You can view the speed your CPU is currently running at with this command:
cat /proc/cpuinfo

and looking for the line that starts with "cpu MHz." There is also a GNOME panel widget (or whatever they're called) under the "System & Hardware" section entitled "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor" that will graphically tell you at what speed your CPU is running.

Bumping this thread to keep the issue, and Toby's excellent advice, near the top.

Also to add that it's been reported at Einstein too, with a slightly different solution:
Problem solved. One guy helped me to turn off acpi in kernel, my next workunit will be over in about 36000 seconds, which is OK.
Here are the instructions:
Edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and add acpi=off

kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=4f146ca4-8f7f-47c4-a72e-e19e101288cd ro quiet splash acpi=off

This really is a BOINC-wide issue. Maybe you Linux guys could find a way of gathering all the related info, and putting it somewhere where all project users can find it?
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Message 743112 - Posted: 23 Apr 2008, 12:14:28 UTC - in response to Message 743069.  
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I see the same behavior on my laptop running Ubuntu. Idle processes do not cause the kernel to initiate CPU power level change...

I think that includes "nice"ed low priority tasks also.

... There is also a GNOME panel widget (or whatever they're called) under the "System & Hardware" section entitled "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor" that will graphically tell you at what speed your CPU is running.

Bumping this thread to keep the issue, and Toby's excellent advice, near the top.

Also to add that it's been reported at Einstein too, with a slightly different solution:
Problem solved. One guy helped me to turn off acpi in kernel, my next workunit will be over in about 36000 seconds, which is OK.
Here are the instructions:
Edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and add acpi=off

kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=4f146ca4-8f7f-47c4-a72e-e19e101288cd ro quiet splash acpi=off

This really is a BOINC-wide issue. Maybe you Linux guys could find a way of gathering all the related info, and putting it somewhere where all project users can find it?

Turning off ACPI is a bit like amputating your leg to cure an itchy toe!

OK, looks ike a FAQ is needed...

Erm... OK, v1 for Linux + KDE desktop:


If using KDE on a recent Linux system, look to the applets area (default location is the right hand side of your task bar), and left click on the "power plug" icon.

The "KPowersave Information Dialog" will show the power scheme being followed and list the present CPU(s) clock speed. You should expect that to show (presently) the maximum CPU clock speed being as you are using your system!

If the listed power scheme is "Performance", then you will have the maximum CPU speed always enabled. You need do no more.

If you wish to change the power scheme, right-click on the "power plug" icon and move your cursor over the "Set Active Scheme" item. A second panel then shows the selection of available pre-set power schemes. Move your cursor horizontally onto that panel and left click on whichever scheme you wish. The default list is:

  • Performance Full CPU speed always, screen saver enabled, screen power saving enabled after long delay (default for a "AC powered" system);
  • Powersave Full CPU speed only when forground tasks are active (eg, an active user), minimum power (reduced CPU clock speed) when idle, screen saver blanks the screen only, screen power saving enabled after a short delay (default for a "battery powered" system);
  • Presentation All screen saver and screen powersaving are disabled so that the display is always on;
  • Acoustic "Quiet" (slow) settings enabled for fans and disk drives (if supported). The CPU may be slowed to give low CPU heat.



The default power schemes or new schemes can be added or created by selecting General Settings" or "Scheme Settings" in the "KPowersave Settings".


The CPU clock frequency control feature is called "Speedstep" or "Cool'n'quiet" or "Powernow" (or whatever new name is newly advertised). A lower clock frequency approximately gives lower heat generation. It also slows the CPU operation and so slows the 'speed' of your computer. The benefit of this is that less power is used and so the battery life can be extended for laptops.

Additions and corrections welcomed.

Add the "command line" version here for "Geeks"...


Happy (fast hot) crunchin',
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