....................your complaint about one without acknowledging the same criticism of your own simply proves that your opinion is really just bias against the poster.

I have never seen you apologize or admit error--even when the error is glaring.

[Snip] . . . you say that she has some bias towards the poster? I really think you should choose your friends more carefully..

Some like to abuse their own freedom of speech to provoke and degrade others.

The poster of that picture knows exactly the message he was conveying about his 'respect' for women when he posted it.

"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

> i believe that the the picture w/ the 'popsickle' in the mouth is a reference to oral (you know what)

< one would be blantly dumb NOT to know this NOR to see this - and THAT is against the rules here (Kid-Friendly) in other words . . .

. . . the other picture is NOT sexual - by any degree - it depicts 'sensuality' - and there is a very big difference between that and sexuality . . . PERIOD


[edit] wiseguy ;)))

"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

> i believe that the the picture w/ the 'popsickle' in the mouth is a reference to oral (you know what)

< one would be blantly dumb NOT to know this NOR to see this - and THAT is against the rules here (Kid-Friendly) in other words . . .

. . . the other picture is NOT sexual - by any degree - it depicts 'sensuality' - and there is a very big difference between that and sexuality . . . PERIOD

Does anyone see the irony here?

Brainsmashr..the movie the avatar from my Mystique account is taken from..the wonderful character Mystique who is a role model women can be proud of..has a different film rating here in England. However if it is deemed against the rules of the board then i will if requested to do so in a polite respectful manner by the moderators without use of threats, remove it.

Does anyone see the irony here?

All I see is a pretty gal sucking on a popsicle... ;)

Does anyone see the irony here?

All I see is a pretty gal sucking on a popsicle... ;)

"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

Does anyone see the irony here?

All I see is a pretty gal sucking on a popsicle... ;)

You are right, Jeffrey. The message is that "censorship sucks" and it is a play on words (censorship sucks--sucking a Popsicle). I think it's rather clever.

Does anyone see the irony here?

All I see is a pretty gal sucking on a popsicle... ;)

You are right, Jeffrey. The message is that "censorship sucks" and it is a play on words (censorship sucks--sucking a Popsicle). I think it's rather clever.

> eh Qui Gon - before you start speakin' - YOU should consider WHO created the image in question - talk to them - and THEN have something to say -

it's rather obvious YOU haven't looked into the matter to deeply ;))

Brainsmashr..the movie the avatar from my Mystique account is taken from..the wonderful character Mystique who is a role model women can be proud of..has a different film rating here in England. However if it is deemed against the rules of the board then i will if requested to do so in a polite respectful manner by the moderators without use of threats, remove it.

Are you simply unfamiliar with the character Mystique or do you consider all villains who abandon their children (from multiple fathers I might add) to be "role models"?

Qui-Gon has made several glaring errors in his case against me.

The main being he has attributed thoughts, actions and meanings to what i have written that simply weren't there. He has then built his case on his misconceptions.

I work at a job were I am trained to view the facts at they really are and to teach other's to understand their own misconceptions and fundamentally held world views that have no basis in evidence and facts.

I challenge Qui-Gon to explain to me in his own words what he believes my complaint actually is and what he believes I have actually asked to be done about it. He will need to go back and look through the facts and the actual written words without prejudice to do this. (I am talking about our discussion on censorship and the picture posted by Misfit)

Once I understand where Qui-Gon has gone wrong in his understanding of what I actually said and meant then I can help him to come to genuine understanding of the points I have attempted to make.

At the moment he is persisting in his folly and building an argument of smoke and mirrors.

To clarify. Qui-Gon. Explain to me in your own words what you think I am saying. I do not want to hear your arguments for or against it..because until you actually understand what I have said you cannot formulate an argument that has any real meaning.

Once we have clarified your misconception then we can go on to help you construct a rational argument against the points I actually made and not the points you think i made.

"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

....................your complaint about one without acknowledging the same criticism of your own simply proves that your opinion is really just bias against the poster.

I have never seen you apologize or admit error--even when the error is glaring.

[Snip] . . . you say that she has some bias towards the poster? I really think you should choose your friends more carefully..

So, Mom, are you admitting your sweetie-girl is simply biased and that her complaint has no basis? And how about you? You complained about that "cartoon" picture, yet you defend your daughter who has done the same thing. Are you now admitting your own intellectual dishonesty (something I have see you demonstrate for years)? The subject at hand is censorship as it relates to certain pictures of females. Are these pictures--both of them--acceptable or not? Don't try to defend your error by referencing some external dispute that has no rational relation to the issue here. The longer you, Es99/Mystique and Robert continue to defend your indefensible position, the more you expose yourselves for the foolish, brain-dead ideologues that you are.

It's not your fault that you couldn't chose your daughter "more carefully". You certainly didn't teach her how to think "more carefully".

Does anyone see the irony here?

All I see is a pretty gal sucking on a popsicle... ;)

You are right, Jeffrey. The message is that "censorship sucks" and it is a play on words (censorship sucks--sucking a Popsicle). I think it's rather clever.

> eh Qui Gon - before you start speakin' - YOU should consider WHO created the image in question - talk to them - and THEN have something to say -

it's rather obvious YOU haven't looked into the matter to deeply ;))

You are wrong.

Brainsmashr..the movie the avatar from my Mystique account is taken from..the wonderful character Mystique who is a role model women can be proud of..has a different film rating here in England. However if it is deemed against the rules of the board then i will if requested to do so in a polite respectful manner by the moderators without use of threats, remove it.

Are you simply unfamiliar with the character Mystique or do you consider all villains who abandon their children (from multiple fathers I might add) to be "role models"?

I think that is a discussion for another day and another thread. ;)

"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me