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Message 992742 - Posted: 29 Apr 2010, 17:19:34 UTC - in response to Message 992702.
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This can be very dangerous, as Fred Hoyle has demonstrated in his "The Black Cloud" book of 1958, the best science fiction book ever written. Real time data can kill us humans.
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"Demonstrated" in... science... fiction?

LOL!
Oh, my Flying Spaghetti Monster!


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Message 992746 - Posted: 29 Apr 2010, 17:50:19 UTC
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My Italian is better than your English. For your information I have a laurea in theoretical physics and am the author of a text covering developments in astronomy from 1875 to 1975, published in a Mondadori Biographical Dictionary, after being read and approved by astronomer Paolo Maffei. I edited also two of his books, "Al di la' della Luna" and "I mostri del cielo", both translated in English and published by MIT Press. I don't have the habit of insulting people and I shall not reply to your offenses.
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Message 1013973 - Posted: 9 Jul 2010, 22:30:20 UTC

Online movie:
Italian television interview on SETI, SETI@home, PAC at United Nations, etc.


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Message 1022637 - Posted: 5 Aug 2010, 4:08:59 UTC
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A good "Nature" article on Citizen Science, starting with Rosetta@home and SETI@home:
Citizen Science
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Message 1024947 - Posted: 14 Aug 2010, 9:59:55 UTC

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Message 1027710 - Posted: 23 Aug 2010, 13:51:45 UTC
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Alien hunters 'should look for artificial intelligence'

A senior astronomer has said that the hunt for alien life should take into account alien "sentient machines".

Seti, the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, has until now sought radio signals from worlds like Earth.

But Seti astronomer Seth Shostak argues that the time between aliens developing radio technology and artificial intelligence (AI) would be short.

Writing in Acta Astronautica, he says that the odds favour detecting such alien AI rather than "biological" life.

Many involved in Seti have long argued that nature may have solved the problem of life using different designs or chemicals, suggesting extraterrestrials would not only not look like us, but that they would not at a biological level even work like us.

However, Seti searchers have mostly still worked under the assumption - as a starting point for a search of the entire cosmos - that ETs would be "alive" in the sense that we know.

That has led to a hunt for life that is bound to follow at least some rules of biochemistry, live for a finite period of time, procreate, and above all be subject to the processes of evolution.

But Dr Shostak makes the point that while evolution can take a large amount of time to develop beings capable of communicating beyond their own planet, technology would already be advancing fast enough to eclipse the species that wrought it.

"If you look at the timescales for the development of technology, at some point you invent radio and then you go on the air and then we have a chance of finding you," he told BBC News.

"But within a few hundred years of inventing radio - at least if we're any example - you invent thinking machines; we're probably going to do that in this century.

"So you've invented your successors and only for a few hundred years are you... a 'biological' intelligence."

From a probability point of view, if such thinking machines ever evolved, we would be more likely to spot signals from them than from the "biological" life that invented them.
'Moving target'

John Elliott, a Seti research veteran based at Leeds Metropolitan University, UK, says that Dr Shostak is putting on a firmer footing a feeling that is not uncommon in the Seti community.

"You have to start somewhere, and there's nothing wrong with that," Dr Elliott told BBC News.

"But having now looked for signals for 50 years, Seti is going through a process of realising the way our technology is advancing is probably a good indicator of how other civilisations - if they're out there - would've progressed.

"Certainly what we're looking at out there is an evolutionary moving target."

Both Dr Shostak and Dr Elliott concede that finding and decoding any eventual message from such alien thinking machines may prove more difficult than in the "biological" case, but the idea does provide new directions to look.

Dr Shostak says that artificially intelligent alien life would be likely to migrate to places where both matter and energy - the only things he says would be of interest to the machines - would be in plentiful supply. That means the Seti hunt may need to focus its attentions near hot, young stars or even near the centres of galaxies.

"I think we could spend at least a few percent of our time... looking in the directions that are maybe not the most attractive in terms of biological intelligence but maybe where sentient machines are hanging out."

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Message 1045889 - Posted: 3 Nov 2010, 22:26:21 UTC

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Message 1059683 - Posted: 25 Dec 2010, 20:45:58 UTC

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Message 1140514 - Posted: 14 Aug 2011, 19:56:02 UTC

SETI's Search For Aliens In The Universe Boosted By Donations

MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. -- An array of 42 radio telescopes seeking signs of intelligent life in the universe will continue that work after private donors raised enough money to keep them going.

Here's the link for the rest of the article...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/13/setis-search-aliens-seti_n_926121.html[/b]
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Message 1177132 - Posted: 10 Dec 2011, 20:06:48 UTC - in response to Message 1140514.

SETI at Home was mentioned in the most recent issue of Sky and Telescope Magazine.
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Message 1183985 - Posted: 9 Jan 2012, 9:42:49 UTC

There is an item on the BBC Alien hunters: Searching for life.

It is an introduction to a BBC World Service broadcast

The first of a two-part BBC World Service Discovery series, "Seti: the past, present and future", will be first broadcast at 19:32 Monday 9 January

At the bottom of the page is a link to the podcast and other transmission times.

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Message 1183988 - Posted: 9 Jan 2012, 10:36:51 UTC

Just saw it myself WK, you beat me too it. Not sure about the Nobel prize though!

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Message 1185720 - Posted: 16 Jan 2012, 16:13:54 UTC

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Message 1185732 - Posted: 16 Jan 2012, 16:41:52 UTC

It looks to me as SETI Institute in the news, as usual.
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Message 1190791 - Posted: 1 Feb 2012, 23:46:23 UTC

This is a compilation of most of the articles related to Seti published in the Science Daily for the last four years. There were more articles from 2004 - 2009 but I didn't include them as I thought they were probably old news to most members.

There is a line between each year with 2012 the most recent starting at the top and 2009 at the bottom.

2012

Planet Population Is Plentiful: Planets Around Stars Are the Rule Rather Than the Exception
ScienceDaily (Jan. 11, 2012)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120111133530.htm

There May Be Millions of Planets in Our Galaxy Orbiting Two Stars
ScienceDaily (Jan. 11, 2012)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120111133518.htm

Two New Planets Discovered Orbiting Double Suns
ScienceDaily (Jan. 11, 2012)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120111133946.htm

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2011
First Earth-Size Planets Beyond Our Solar System: Smallest Exoplanets Ever Confirmed Around a Star Like Our Sun -called Kepler-20e and Kepler-20f,
ScienceDaily (Dec. 20, 2011)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/12/111220134044.htm

First Earth-Sized Planets Found
ScienceDaily (Dec. 20, 2011)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/12/111220133711.htm

SETI Search Resumes at Allen Telescope Array, Targeting New Planets
ScienceDaily (Dec. 7, 2011)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/12/111207134852.htm

First Habitable-Zone Super-Earth Discovered in Orbit Around a Sun-Like Star
ScienceDaily (Dec. 5, 2011)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/12/111205140525.htm


First System Developed for Assessing the Odds of Life On Other Worlds
ScienceDaily (Nov. 21, 2011)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/11/111121104159.htm

New SETI Survey Focuses On Kepler's Top Earth-Like Planets
ScienceDaily (May 16, 2011)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/110516102333.htm

NASA Finds Earth-Size Planet Candidates in Habitable Zone, Six Planet System
ScienceDaily (Feb. 2, 2011)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/02/110202133321.htm

Astronomers Can Tune in to Radio Auroras to Find Exoplanets
ScienceDaily (Apr. 18, 2011)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/04/110418084007.htm
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2010

Earth-Like Planets May Be Ready for Their Close-Up = "nulling interferometer"
ScienceDaily (June 24, 2010)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100624141700.htm

Widening the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence
ScienceDaily (Mar. 1, 2010)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100301122342.htm

Finding Frugal Aliens: 'Benford Beacons' Concept Could Refocus Search for Signs of Intelligent Extraterrestrial Life
ScienceDaily (July 21, 2010)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100721094231.htm

Earth-Sized Planets May Be Common Throughout Our Galaxy, NASA Survey Suggests
ScienceDaily (Oct. 28, 2010)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101028141430.htm


Prospects for Finding New Earths Boosted by Brand New Planet-Finding Technique
ScienceDaily (July 8, 2010)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100708192842.htm

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2009
Let The Planet Hunt Begin: Kepler Spacecraft Begins Search For Other Earth-Like Worlds
ScienceDaily (May 14, 2009)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090514162327.htm

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Message 1194902 - Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 18:59:31 UTC

SETI Article in NY Times

There is a nice article about SETI in today's New York Times. It doesn't mention SETI@Home but provides some information of general interest about SETI.

Maybe it will generate a few dollars as it talks about the Allen Array being in mothballs for lack of funding.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/30/science/space/seti-research-is-revived-life-out-there.html
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Message 1220485 - Posted: 20 Apr 2012, 2:51:50 UTC

There was a good article a few weeks ago in the Guardian UK that focused mainly on 'citizen science' and Galaxy Zoo/Zooniverse, but it mentioned SETI in passing and included a link to SETI@home, so perhaps it will bring in further recruits. It failed to note that SETI@home started long before the Zooniverse. The article url is still active, at:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/mar/18/galaxy-zoo-crowdsourcing-citizen-scientists?INTCMP=SRCH

Also, a few weeks earlier, the BBC covered the launch of the new SETI live website, part of the Zooniverse, in this article:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17199882

This article alerted me to the SETIlive website, and I've since joined. There are teething issues still, with frozen screens etc., but the user base is growing. Staring at 'noise' screens may not be for everyone.

Additionally, there was a great article in the Atlantic Online back in February, which I dont see mentioned here, so I will give the url. It includes an interview with Robert Gray, author of The Elusive Wow, and discusses the famous Wow! signal/anomaly. The url is at:

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/12/02/the-wow-signal-one-mans-search-for-setis-most-tantalizing-trace-of-alien-life/253093/

This article got me interested in SETI and so to the SETI@home via BOINC.

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Message 1222142 - Posted: 23 Apr 2012, 12:25:20 UTC - in response to Message 1220485.

There was a good article a few weeks ago in the Guardian UK that focused mainly on 'citizen science' and Galaxy Zoo/Zooniverse, but it mentioned SETI in passing and included a link to SETI@home, so perhaps it will bring in further recruits. It failed to note that SETI@home started long before the Zooniverse. The article url is still active, at:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/mar/18/galaxy-zoo-crowdsourcing-citizen-scientists?INTCMP=SRCH

Also, a few weeks earlier, the BBC covered the launch of the new SETI live website, part of the Zooniverse, in this article:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17199882

This article alerted me to the SETIlive website, and I've since joined. There are teething issues still, with frozen screens etc., but the user base is growing. Staring at 'noise' screens may not be for everyone.

Additionally, there was a great article in the Atlantic Online back in February, which I dont see mentioned here, so I will give the url. It includes an interview with Robert Gray, author of The Elusive Wow, and discusses the famous Wow! signal/anomaly. The url is at:

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/12/02/the-wow-signal-one-mans-search-for-setis-most-tantalizing-trace-of-alien-life/253093/


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Message 1222193 - Posted: 23 Apr 2012, 15:27:12 UTC

UPDATE ON SETI AT HOME RELATED ARTICLES FROM SCIENCE DAILY




April 18, 2012
Finding ET may require a Robotic Leap
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120418162300.htm

January 11, 2012
There may be Millions of Planets in our Galaxy Orbiting Two Stars.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120111133518.htm

Nov 29, 2011
First System developed for assessing the Odds of Life on other worlds
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/11/111121104159.htm

May 16, 2011
New SETI Survey Focuses on Kepler's Top Earth Like Planets
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/110516102333.htm

Dec 7, 2011
Seti Search Resumes at Allen Telescope Array
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/12/111207134852.htm

Oct 4 2011
Kepler Space craft Discovers New Multi Planet Solar System
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/10/111004132817.htm

Dec 5, 2011
First Habitable Zone Super Earth Discovered in Orbit around Sun Like Star
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/12/111205140525.htm

Sept 15. 2011
Tatooine-like Planet Discovered
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110915141231.htm

Sept 15, 2011
From Star Wars to Science Fact - Tatooine like Planet Discovered.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110915141233.htm

Oct. 7, 2011
Scientist search for moons around Asteroids
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/10/111007102146.htm

City Lights could reveal ET Civilizations
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/11/111103190356.htm

July 20, 2011
NASA'S Hubble Discovers Another Moon around Pluto

June 23, 2011
Frames of Betelgeuse New Image Reveals Vast Nebula Around Famous Super giant Start
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110623085844.htm

Mar 1, 2010
Widening the Search for ET
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100301122342.htm

Dec 17, 2009
Avatar's Moon Pandora could be real Planet Hunters Say
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091217183444.htm

Aug 6, 2009
New Planet Finder Shows its Power: Kepler Orbiting Telescope Should Soon Find Alien Earths
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090806184434.htm

Jan 2, 2008
SETI@Home Ramps up to Analyze More Data in Search for ET
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080102135741.htm

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Message 1227416 - Posted: 4 May 2012, 21:52:30 UTC

Ah, the seeming silence of the Universe. Just came across this article, which contains a video that presents an animated exploration of the famous and fascinating Fermi Paradox; it appeared a week ago in the Guardian UK; here is the link:


http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/grrlscientist/2012/apr/25/1
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