SETI Classic

It isn't going to happen. SETI@Home ran out of funding and would have closed down if BOINC didn't come alone and provide new funding.

Besides, the BOINC client does more than the SETI Classic client ever did. You can read here for more reasons why SETI Classic closed down.

Bottom line is, if SETI were to disengage itself from BOINC, SETI itself would fold and there would be no more search.
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It isn't going to happen. SETI@Home ran out of funding and would have closed down if BOINC didn't come alone and provide new funding.

Besides, the BOINC client does more than the SETI Classic client ever did. You can read here for more reasons why SETI Classic closed down.

Bottom line is, if SETI were to disengage itself from BOINC, SETI itself would fold and there would be no more search.

This topic comes up every so often.

As OzzFan stated, Classic was out of money. Classic would have closed without ever coming back if there was not a request for BOINC to be created. SETI BOINC was given some money from BOINC development to have a test software as it was being developed. Now it's supported by user and business donations. Currently SETI itself does not get grants (although the team keeps filling out paperwork to try to get grants). Certain projects get grants, like Astropulse got a grant, again this is a separated piece and does not equate to SETI itself.

BOINC was created out of a necessity for multiple projects to allow to distribute their needs in a single software. There are several dozen projects now, all because of the BOINC infrastructure.

I personally enjoy BOINC. It gives me more sense of doing something. Classic was a pretty screensaver and not much else to me. If Classic were still around, I may not even be crunching right now.


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I can`t say that i agree,i enjoyed the classic SETI and i was crunching back in 1999 (since lost account so had to rejoin) but as everyone says progress has to happen and BOINC is the progress as far as SETI is concerned. SO BOINC is the future? then surely it should be updated so it`s not so imposing on your desktop and maybe a nice skining app would be nice so i can design a decent skin for it....anyone for a classic seti skin? LOL

I can`t say that i agree,i enjoyed the classic SETI and i was crunching back in 1999 (since lost account so had to rejoin) but as everyone says progress has to happen and BOINC is the progress as far as SETI is concerned. SO BOINC is the future? then surely it should be updated so it`s not so imposing on your desktop and maybe a nice skining app would be nice so i can design a decent skin for it....anyone for a classic seti skin? LOL

Actually, BOINC's Simple View (A.K.A. the "Simple GUI") supports skinning, though I haven't found too many skins for it.

As for BOINC being "imposing" on your desktop, how do you mean? It sits in a little tray icon in your System Notification Area and that's it. BOINC's job is to launch science applications, and it does so at the lowest priority of the OS it's running on. Can't really get any less imposing than that.

You know what i can`t be bothered to argue the point,i was merely stating the
fact there is another side and not everyone has to agree,dancingwithmicrochips and my opinion counts obviously counts for nowt,off to join a friendly forum

I can`t say that i agree,i enjoyed the classic SETI and i was crunching back in 1999 (since lost account so had to rejoin) but as everyone says progress has to happen and BOINC is the progress as far as SETI is concerned. SO BOINC is the future? then surely it should be updated so it`s not so imposing on your desktop and maybe a nice skining app would be nice so i can design a decent skin for it....anyone for a classic seti skin? LOL

Actually, BOINC's Simple View (A.K.A. the "Simple GUI") supports skinning, though I haven't found too many skins for it.

As for BOINC being "imposing" on your desktop, how do you mean? It sits in a little tray icon in your System Notification Area and that's it. BOINC's job is to launch science applications, and it does so at the lowest priority of the OS it's running on. Can't really get any less imposing than that.

You know what i can`t be bothered to argue the point,i was merely stating the
fact there is another side and not everyone has to agree,dancingwithmicrochips and my opinion counts obviously counts for nowt,off to join a friendly forum

I'm sorry to hear that. I didn't realize I was being unfriendly by trying to have a discussion about this. Sure, not everyone has to agree, but we can certainly share ideas to improve the program. Saying that, of course your opinion counts. If you're willing to speak up and voice your support for something, shouldn't you be willing to help explain why you feel that way? Isn't the free exchange of ideas what helps us make the world a better place?

Maybe your perspective is based upon a misunderstanding on how BOINC is supposed to work, or maybe you have a great idea to improve the program to make it easier for everyone. How are we to know unless we discuss and share ideas?

Simply throwing an opinion 'out there' and not be willing to elaborate is certainly not helpful at all, and if anything, actually degrades your own opinion since we are more apt to simply say "ok, whatever" and ignore it if you aren't willing to explain it to us.

I'm sorry that you can't be bothered and that you don't like to discuss things. But I certainly hope we may be able to change your mind if you're willing to be open-minded enough.

OK fair enough!! but i still say classic SETI was better imho,yes i`ve read the
reasons as for why seti moved to BOINC,i do understand progress is important for
a project to survive and also money is the route to all evil. Back in 99 when i
first used SETI it was a small compact little utility that sat in the backgound looking pretty busy crunching data,now BOINC is an oversized GUI either in simple or advanced and has a really imho pointless grahpics display! why do we need it? never needed it in classic! yeah i understand that you have the option not to use these functions,to me it`s wasted code that could of been used to get a little more out of it.

I only used SETI for 2 years,granted i left the net and came back 6 years later.
now i have 100+ credits that i can`t retrive from classic seti because the ole grey matter won`t allow me to remember an old e-mail address from 6 years ago...tough luck i know. So the question still needs to answered,are we ever going to have a skinning app for BOINC? if we have to live with it then at least let us make it our own.

Just to make u laugh OzzFan ---> Any chance of a version for Amiga LMAO
SETI on a Classic Amiga now there`s a thought! i`ll happily keep downloading
and uploading the Workunits trying to build up my credit again and do my bit for
mankind as really does it really matter what we use,was just looking forward to
using Classic SETI again that`s all.

Just a quick question though to those who are good with sums....A Accelerated Amiga would run @ 40MHZ now how long would it take for it to complete a workunit?

Amiga,

BOINC itself was created for the need of many projects to run under a single hosting program. This development came from a lot of input from various projects needs. Since BOINC needed a testbed program, SETI was that, and they wanted to design a program that used a lot of the features to show it off to other projects interested in the BOINC program. The need was created and fulfilled. So that is why it is what it is. Since SETI Classic would have gone away anyway (no one was investing in it), BOINC gave them the ability to stick around. SETI is still on a shoestring budget, and could go away at any time, but BOINC would stay because of the other projects that are using it.

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Ah man i wish i could code,though technically you shouldn`t need to since Amiga can run Linux (be it a ported version) hmmm i wonder if this would work.

Ah man i wish i could code,though technically you shouldn`t need to since Amiga can run Linux (be it a ported version) hmmm i wonder if this would work.

If it's a PowerPC based Amiga, the Linux PPC ports of BOINC and SETI should work on the Amgia with Linux, too. Linux PPC ports are available from the BOINC and SETI third party site : http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/DownloadOther

@Dotsch

Amiga PPC! I wish :) Nah mate it`s just an Accelerated Amiga taking it to
40MHZ,i know this can run a ported version of Linux but it`s just a pain to
install,not sure if BOINC will be compatable with it either not to mention how
long it would take to do a workunit running @ 40MHZ.

Here`s some figures

Amiga@40MHZ is 36.5 times slower than the computer i use now,it takes me 1.05 days to complete a unit on my laptop,would i be correct in assuming that the Amiga would take roughly 37 days to crunch 1 unit? sorry was never that good @ maths (it`s why my coding skills are limited to Basic). if i am correct in my assumption then it would never complete before the deadline expired.

I think too, that the 68x00 CPUs are to slow to complete a WU within a deadline. In my opinion it is not worth to try to port to the 68x000 CPUs.
Also, the computed signals in the current SETI Enhanced Multibeam application is a lot of more sensitiver (factor 5 to 10 ??) and so it needs more time to compute, compared with SETI classic.
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I think too, that the 68x00 CPUs are to slow to complete a WU within a deadline. In my opinion it is not worth to try to port to the 68x000 CPUs.
Also, the computed signals in the current SETI Enhanced Multibeam application is a lot of more sensitiver (factor 5 to 10 ??) and so it needs more time to compute, compared with SETI classic.

Ok guys thanks for all your help but i`m dropping this subject now because
we seemed to have gone way off topic. Amiga unless it`s a PPC Amiga won`t cope.

Hmmm i got a old 500MHZ Comp somewhere that i`ll have to dig out and use to crunch data also,just wanted to make use of the Amiga rather than having it
for Retro purposes :) Nevermind.