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Message 703799 - Posted: 25 Jan 2008, 0:23:02 UTC

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080124/ts_nm/iraq_saddam_interrogator_dc_1.
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Message 703806 - Posted: 25 Jan 2008, 0:38:05 UTC

From his grave? How C O N V E N I E N T... ;)
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Message 703816 - Posted: 25 Jan 2008, 1:04:57 UTC - in response to Message 703806.  

From his grave? How C O N V E N I E N T... ;)

Did you not click the link and read the article?
Note "admitted" is past tense.
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Message 703818 - Posted: 25 Jan 2008, 1:14:44 UTC - in response to Message 703816.  

Note "admitted" is past tense.

I can only imagine the libel that will miraculously crop up after I'm dead and gone... ;)
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Message 703821 - Posted: 25 Jan 2008, 1:31:16 UTC - in response to Message 703818.  

Note "admitted" is past tense.

I can only imagine the libel that will miraculously crop up after I'm dead and gone... ;)

I get the feeling you did not read the article.
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Message 703825 - Posted: 25 Jan 2008, 1:58:08 UTC - in response to Message 703818.  

Note "admitted" is past tense.

I can only imagine the libel that will miraculously crop up after I'm dead and gone... ;)

No need for imagination when you've already read it.
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Message 703862 - Posted: 25 Jan 2008, 2:49:15 UTC - in response to Message 703825.  
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No need for imagination when you've already read it.

I know, the anti-ant-libel seems to be a monthly occurrence... ;)


About the article... I see an agenda:
Saddam wanted to maintain the image of a strong Iraq to deter Iran, its historic enemy, from hostile action.

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Message 703900 - Posted: 25 Jan 2008, 4:57:43 UTC - in response to Message 703862.  

No need for imagination when you've already read it.

I know, the anti-ant-libel seems to be a monthly occurrence... ;)


About the article... I see an agenda:
Saddam wanted to maintain the image of a strong Iraq to deter Iran, its historic enemy, from hostile action.


Every group/country/government/military/news etc has an agenda.

Every religion has an agenda.

Even you have an agenda. (And even me).

So nothing to be surprised about...



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Message 704031 - Posted: 25 Jan 2008, 16:12:16 UTC - in response to Message 703862.  

About the article... I see an agenda:
Saddam wanted to maintain the image of a strong Iraq to deter Iran, its historic enemy, from hostile action.

What Jeffrey is saying is that Iran and Iraq have never been enemies; that Iran was never hostile towards Iraq; and Saddam should not have been worrying so much that someday Iran would become hostile towards Iraq, since they'd always been neighborly buddies beforehand. ;-)
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Message 704053 - Posted: 25 Jan 2008, 17:18:33 UTC

The only truth in that article is his surprise at being attacked BY HIS FRIENDS in the White House.
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Message 704069 - Posted: 25 Jan 2008, 18:03:21 UTC

Hmmm - let's see, Saddam starts a war with Iran and uses nerve gas on them, can't win that one so he jumps on Kuwait, allies have to kick him out but before they withdraw they set as many oil wells on fire as he can (which at the time some folks speculated it would cause the most enviromental damage in history), while he is at it he throws a few missles at israel to see if he can get the whole region engulfed in a war, to no avail. so he has a few thousand of his own villagers killed off because they defied him.

Now after he get's his butt kicked and his military destroyed, he occasionally shoots a few missles at our planes, subverts the oil for food program so he can stuff a few tens of millions into swiss bank accounts and start rebuilding his military, lets wounded terrorists come get patched up in baghdad, allows them to build a few training camps while he is at it, meanwhile his spy service is negociating with Osama for what no one ever found out. and to top it off has a hit put out on an ex american president.

Meanwhile every spy agency in the world says he is trying to get nukes, (russian, french, british for example) and escaping scientists are swearing the nerve gas factories are up and running.

and so what do the libs say
"BUSH LIED so we could steal his oil" but just so happens, no oil.
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Message 704075 - Posted: 25 Jan 2008, 18:18:59 UTC
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"No friend of mine! Nope, never met the man"



Had Rumsfeld gone rogue at the time? Was he acting on his own?
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Message 704134 - Posted: 25 Jan 2008, 20:50:33 UTC

Secretary Albright planning demise of Israel obviously,



Or it might be interpreted as another secretary meeting someone because you have to.
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Message 704194 - Posted: 25 Jan 2008, 22:30:29 UTC - in response to Message 704134.  

Secretary Albright planning demise of Israel obviously,



Or it might be interpreted as another secretary meeting someone because you have to.


Name a time period since the late 1940s that the United States was not closely allied with Israel.
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Message 704200 - Posted: 25 Jan 2008, 22:43:42 UTC


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Message 704479 - Posted: 26 Jan 2008, 15:56:23 UTC - in response to Message 704134.  
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Secretary Albright planning demise of Israel obviously,



Or it might be interpreted as another secretary meeting someone because you have to.


You can interpret it any way you want, but Rumsfeld was there doing "business as usual"

In spite of the Reagan administration's publically stated policy of neutrality in the Iran/Iraq war, arms sales were brisk to both sides.
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Message 706584 - Posted: 1 Feb 2008, 4:47:54 UTC - in response to Message 704479.  

In spite of the Reagan administration's publically stated policy of neutrality in the Iran/Iraq war, arms sales were brisk to both sides.

Definition of neutrality: Treating all sides equally by-

    1. Not dealing/interacting with any participant.
    2. Dealing with all participants the same way, either by-
    2a. Acting as if a war wasn't happening (Pre-war behavior; The Switzerland Route).
    2b. Supplying both sides equally for war.



I believe that "arms sales... to both sides" fits under 2b, while you seem to be implying point 1.


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Message 706805 - Posted: 1 Feb 2008, 17:10:15 UTC - in response to Message 706584.  

In spite of the Reagan administration's publically stated policy of neutrality in the Iran/Iraq war, arms sales were brisk to both sides.

Definition of neutrality: Treating all sides equally by-

    1. Not dealing/interacting with any participant.
    2. Dealing with all participants the same way, either by-
    2a. Acting as if a war wasn't happening (Pre-war behavior; The Switzerland Route).
    2b. Supplying both sides equally for war.



I believe that "arms sales... to both sides" fits under 2b, while you seem to be implying point 1.



Point made and taken.
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Message 707151 - Posted: 2 Feb 2008, 7:46:09 UTC - in response to Message 706805.  

...while you seem to be implying point 1.

Point made and taken.

Thanks. ;-)

As "an aside"... Saddam Miscalculated?
I had heard of that report before, and it doesn't make too much sense to me.
We attack Iraq once (on behalf of Kuwait, of course) when he- Saddam- isn't 'pushing' any WMDs, and he thinks we (or someone else out of his immediate range) wouldn't do anything when he appears to have a cache?
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