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Message 27601 - Posted: 18 Sep 2004, 4:22:41 UTC

Last three units that got turned in took the usual time to process but my credits when up about 1 credit each while my average credit took a dive each time. They were all rework units, and they were all returned within the time limit.

Anybody else seeing this?

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Message 27620 - Posted: 18 Sep 2004, 7:37:36 UTC

Hello Canada.
Yes. I noticed that for the first time earlier today (Friday). Didn't really understand the basis for it. Probably some kind of new math. :-)
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Message 27635 - Posted: 18 Sep 2004, 8:36:13 UTC
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I tried to start a 'new math' revolution back when I was plagued by math courses. My proposition was that everything equals 1. This would explain why you are only getting 1 cobblestone per work unit. Berkeley must have heard the cry of revolution and joined it. Of course now that I am graduated I couldn't care less :)



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Message 28055 - Posted: 19 Sep 2004, 18:02:00 UTC - in response to Message 27635.

Thanks for responding guys, it was nice to know I wasn't going nuts. The credit I was expecting eventually showed up. I still have no idea why I was getting 1 credit at a time for a short time, something was updating. Oh well, the system seems to have caught up to itself.

As for new math, I have it on the authority of several mathie and computer geek friends that the answer to everything is 42. That's why the "1" was so confusing.

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Message 28067 - Posted: 19 Sep 2004, 18:23:15 UTC - in response to Message 27601.

> Last three units that got turned in took the usual time to process but my
> credits when up about 1 credit each while my average credit took a dive each
> time. They were all rework units, and they were all returned within the time
> limit.
>
> Anybody else seeing this?
>

Same thing here. I sent approximately 15 units back during the last few days and received exactly 1 point on friday.

BTW: How do you know it is a rework unit? How do you know about the time limit?


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Message 28075 - Posted: 19 Sep 2004, 18:35:10 UTC - in response to Message 28067.

> BTW: How do you know it is a rework unit? How do you know about the time
> limit?

A reworked WU has the extension _3 and more.
The time limit can be find in the tab "Work" and is defined as "Report deadline".

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Message 28134 - Posted: 19 Sep 2004, 20:30:18 UTC

Since each WU is calculated three times and the average is taken to grant credit, I always assumed that the extension _3 indicated the WU number that had been sent for processing - 1,2, or 3.


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Message 28140 - Posted: 19 Sep 2004, 21:02:52 UTC

I get always Credit when i connect to Berkeley, so no Probs here.

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Message 28152 - Posted: 19 Sep 2004, 21:28:10 UTC

I havent got any credit the past few days, or if i did it was no bigger than 1.00 :). Still waiting!

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Message 28158 - Posted: 19 Sep 2004, 21:44:15 UTC - in response to Message 28134.

Ah... But a computer programmer will always start counting at 0.

Ready... On three. Zero, One, Two, Three.


> Since each WU is calculated three times and the average is taken to grant
> credit, I always assumed that the extension _3 indicated the WU number that
> had been sent for processing - 1,2, or 3.
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Message 28161 - Posted: 19 Sep 2004, 21:48:24 UTC - in response to Message 28158.

> Ah... But a computer programmer will always start counting at 0.
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> Ready... On three. Zero, One, Two, Three.
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> > Since each WU is calculated three times and the average is taken to
> grant
> > credit, I always assumed that the extension _3 indicated the WU number
> that
> > had been sent for processing - 1,2, or 3.

It does start at 0 you get WU with 0 on the end means its a very new wu and you are the first to get it! _3 is a wu that has be sent out 4 times because of a missing result.

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Message 28174 - Posted: 19 Sep 2004, 22:17:47 UTC - in response to Message 28075.

> A reworked WU has the extension _3 and more.
> The time limit can be find in the tab "Work" and is defined as "Report
> deadline".
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Thanks for the information! But what tab "Work" do you mean? Where can I find this and Report deadline? I run BOINC on PowerMacs with MacOS 10.3.5.


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Message 28178 - Posted: 19 Sep 2004, 22:28:40 UTC
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In this last days, the credit flow is decreased so much. In my team many members don't receive any credit from about one week, especially new members was blocked at zero. The server status seem to be OK but also looking the graph of the stats we can see a decrease of avarege credit. I can't understand why it happens. I hope that it is not another bug of the validator :(

I'd like to read a comment from a member of developers about this situation.
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Message 28214 - Posted: 20 Sep 2004, 0:46:00 UTC
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I have not seen any significant changes in credits except for modest reduction due to v4.09 having a lower benchmark, which will have a negative effect on credit per wu.

My last three days credits were:
9/17 = 860
9/18 = 700
9/19 = 789

My credits seem to be pretty close to what is estimated by BoincView.

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Message 28286 - Posted: 20 Sep 2004, 9:06:53 UTC - in response to Message 28174.

> > A reworked WU has the extension _3 and more.
> > The time limit can be find in the tab "Work" and is defined as "Report
> > deadline".
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> Thanks for the information! But what tab "Work" do you mean? Where can I find
> this and Report deadline? I run BOINC on PowerMacs with MacOS 10.3.5.

Like me, you cannot see this yet on the Macintosh. We are running the BOINC Work Manager as a command line client.

If you run the Windows version this information is on the work tab. You can see examples of this in the BOINC Owner's Manual to see what you and I cannot. If you have two computers I suppose you could run one of the external monitoring tools to try to see what was going on with the application on the Macintosh.

Until the multi-platform version of the BOINC Work Manager comes out, we suffer (sniff, sniff, wail and moan...) ... I think there is a third party tool for Linux ... if that can be run on the mac, I don't know ...
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Message 28290 - Posted: 20 Sep 2004, 9:21:57 UTC

I had the problem with no credit showing up. After the problems a few weeks ago, I got an initial credit of about 20 and after that, three single credits of 1. I then got nothing for over a week. I got about 30 over the weekend. Not sure what this means but the flow of credits seems spasmodic at the moment. I certainly think i'm about 100 down on what I should be. As I have said on posts before, lack of pending results/results make all this difficult to check.


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