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Message 27378 - Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 15:37:32 UTC

These boards have been used a lot for complaining, so instead I would like to say "good work" to the developers for how smoothly things have been running for me of late. For a couple weeks now, I have been able to completely ignore BOINC as I am having no troubles getting new units and sending finished results. When I don't have to carefully monitor BOINC and it takes care of itself, I think things are going well.

Plus, the new server status page is great.

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Message 27383 - Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 15:45:33 UTC

I concur completely!

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Message 27437 - Posted: 17 Sep 2004, 20:21:49 UTC - in response to Message 27383.

> I concur completely!

Me three ... :)

I am not sure if it is working as well as I would like, it is working...

And the remark is not a dig, I know that there are optimizations to come, and I think they are also working on the preemption too ...
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Message 27712 - Posted: 18 Sep 2004, 14:55:21 UTC

I most definitely concur!! I believe we haven't had any major problem for over 2 weeks now. I only have 2 complaints, but they are with the client. One is being addressed, the dial-up modem problem. The other is with the option to disable the network connection (a work around to the dial-up problem). If I disable the network connection in BOINC, my WUs crunch away non-stop. When I have a good batch of finished WUs I dial-up and then re-enable the connection in BOINC, upload, update, download, and then disable the connection. The thing I don't like is that when shutting down BOINC or the PC and restarting, the network connection is enabled by default. If I have the option to enable/disable, I think that it should remain disabled until I re-enable it.

L8R....

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Message 27715 - Posted: 18 Sep 2004, 14:57:21 UTC

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Good job lately, SETI/BOINC developers!
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Message 27743 - Posted: 18 Sep 2004, 18:00:24 UTC - in response to Message 27715.

I'd like to join in, BOINC V4.09 met or exceeded all my expectations :o)
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Message 27758 - Posted: 18 Sep 2004, 19:10:13 UTC

Ditto! Hats off to Rom and the rest of the development team.

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Message 27815 - Posted: 18 Sep 2004, 22:37:16 UTC

SHE's REAL FINE, MY 409 ....

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Installed it on 3-4 machines and not a problem in site. Heck, I even got work from Pirates/Einstein@Home ... several of them as a matter of fact. Even got one that claimed more than 0.00 credit ...
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Message 27834 - Posted: 18 Sep 2004, 23:44:40 UTC - in response to Message 27378.

I agree and am very happy with the progress....Kudos!!!!
Yea Team.....It's Saturday eve where I am and still crunching!


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Message 27837 - Posted: 19 Sep 2004, 0:09:15 UTC

yaaaaaaaaaaay!!!

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Message 28194 - Posted: 20 Sep 2004, 0:05:33 UTC - in response to Message 27712.

> I most definitely concur!! I believe we haven't had any major problem for
> over 2 weeks now. I only have 2 complaints, but they are with the client.
> One is being addressed, the dial-up modem problem. The other is with the
> option to disable the network connection (a work around to the dial-up
> problem). If I disable the network connection in BOINC, my WUs crunch away
> non-stop. When I have a good batch of finished WUs I dial-up and then
> re-enable the connection in BOINC, upload, update, download, and then disable
> the connection. The thing I don't like is that when shutting down BOINC or
> the PC and restarting, the network connection is enabled by default. If I
> have the option to enable/disable, I think that it should remain disabled
> until I re-enable it.


If you have a c++ compiler and download the boinc source code, you can make boinc remember this setting by adding about 6 lines of code.

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Message 28211 - Posted: 20 Sep 2004, 0:43:29 UTC - in response to Message 27378.
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> These boards have been used a lot for complaining, so instead I would like to
> say "good work" to the developers for how smoothly things have been running
> for me of late. For a couple weeks now, I have been able to completely ignore
> BOINC as I am having no troubles getting new units and sending finished
> results. When I don't have to carefully monitor BOINC and it takes care of
> itself, I think things are going well.
>
> Plus, the new server status page is great.



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Message 28342 - Posted: 20 Sep 2004, 13:22:32 UTC - in response to Message 28194.

> If
> I
> > have the option to enable/disable, I think that it should remain
> disabled
> > until I re-enable it.
>
>
> If you have a c++ compiler and download the boinc source code, you can make
> boinc remember this setting by adding about 6 lines of code.
> <a>
>

I have MS Visual C++ v6.0 that I have used on Win98 and WinME. I haven't tried to install it in WinXP yet. Maybe I will try. I hadn't realized that people are still programming with C++, I thought everybody was being forced to do that .NET thing Microsoft came out with. Thanks for the idea....

L8R....

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Message 28366 - Posted: 20 Sep 2004, 14:31:58 UTC - in response to Message 28342.

> I hadn't realized that
> people are still programming with C++, I thought everybody was being forced to
> do that .NET thing Microsoft came out with. Thanks for the idea....

I could never see why people programmed in C or any of its deritives (actually including Java). Like PL/1 of the past those languages see to delight in obscure symbology ...

Give me Pascal any old day...
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Message 28387 - Posted: 20 Sep 2004, 15:20:44 UTC - in response to Message 28342.
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> > If
> > I
> > > have the option to enable/disable, I think that it should remain
> > disabled
> > > until I re-enable it.
> >
> >
> > If you have a c++ compiler and download the boinc source code, you can
> make
> > boinc remember this setting by adding about 6 lines of code.
> > <a>
> >
>
> I have MS Visual C++ v6.0 that I have used on Win98 and WinME. I haven't
> tried to install it in WinXP yet. Maybe I will try. I hadn't realized that
> people are still programming with C++, I thought everybody was being forced to
> do that .NET thing Microsoft came out with. Thanks for the idea....
>
> L8R....

got the idea from mostly_harmless some time ago...

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Message 28514 - Posted: 21 Sep 2004, 1:07:51 UTC - in response to Message 28366.

> > I hadn't realized that
> > people are still programming with C++, I thought everybody was being
> forced to
> > do that .NET thing Microsoft came out with. Thanks for the idea....
>
> I could never see why people programmed in C or any of its deritives (actually
> including Java). Like PL/1 of the past those languages see to delight in
> obscure symbology ...
>
> Give me Pascal any old day...
>
>

No offense Paul, but I looked at Pascal and I didn't like it. Isn't it like Basic/Visual Basic were it needs an interpreter to run? That is why I stayed with C/C++/Visual C++. When the source is compiled, it runs without an interpreter.

L8R....

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Message 28518 - Posted: 21 Sep 2004, 1:26:42 UTC - in response to Message 28514.
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> No offense Paul, but I looked at Pascal and I didn't like it. Isn't it like
> Basic/Visual Basic were it needs an interpreter to run? That is why I stayed
> with C/C++/Visual C++. When the source is compiled, it runs without an
> interpreter.
>
> L8R....

I did a lot of development using Pascal, Cobol... 20 years ago (PCs and PDPs) and as far as I remember no interpreter needed for Pascal. It was at that time an interesting language to use, but today there are more interesting languages - no offense if someone still uses Pascal and God knows that I haven't used Pascal for the last 20 years ;-). Is Pascal still around? However C/C++ is most definitely still going strong and from my point of view the most preferred one. Today I'm looking at and using C# which gives me what I need since I am in Windows environment 99% of my time.
My opinion is that there are no good or bad languages to use! You use the language that suites your need/project - develop BOINC in Cobol wouldn't be a good choice if I put it that way!!!



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Message 28519 - Posted: 21 Sep 2004, 1:37:56 UTC - in response to Message 28514.

>Isn't it like Basic/Visual Basic were it needs

this must be a very outdated release...
todays VB environment offers ofcource an .exe

The idea, the solutions, not the languange is most of the case in foreground

I'm missing the old day of turbo pascal too (tp3, tp4, tp5, tp 5.5)
One day I have seen a pacal compiler from borland, bur for "windows"

Brr, was lucky to exit.

@Paul

can you please explain to me, how to adress the mouse device using PL/1?

Passed a lot of time over PL/1 and job control, but it WAS an other epoche.
Perhaps YOU know also about OGL DCF Bookmaster (all host based)

But the kids of today, they don't know what a stable achitecture and checkpoint oriented programming is.. look wwiinnddooww

an other nightmare, CUA...

About 99.99% of all critical applications of today, (flight booking system, realtime processing...) there are free of the java (with version?) or other
script oriented languages. Only have a right to exists for perhaps as an easy user interface.


greetings


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Message 28520 - Posted: 21 Sep 2004, 1:41:22 UTC - in response to Message 28519.

yes of course (turbo) pascal, even under dos, offered a .exe as a final compile
was it F3 and F5?

in addition something called overlay

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Message 28617 - Posted: 21 Sep 2004, 12:03:20 UTC

The original concept of Pascal was to compile to a code that would be run on a interpreter on the target machine. The idea was to get portability of the source to many targets. Because of the limitations of the majority of the systems this made the programs 2 to 10 times slower in some environments.

One company actually designed a chip that exectuted the P-Code as it was called as its native instruction set.

Pascal eventually lost out because of the percieved limitations because of the execution speed. Note that in many cases the slowness was actually undetectable unless you created a program that would show that some programs would be slower so that other compilers looked better. We call them benchmarks.

Within a couple years, compilers were developed that would compile to the native instruction set of the target processors/computers.

For those that don't recall this history can see that the idea never went away because versions of Java use this same concept.

Overlays were necessary because as Bill Gates once said, no one needs more than 640K Bytes of memory.

As far as addressing the mouse, I usually start out with "why you [blank], [blank], piece of [blank] ..."

I still have my borland compilers including the one for Prolog ...

The other day I also got out an old program I did to do Mandelbrot and is still runs fine ...

One of the reasons I like Pascal is that it had everything you needed and it also required some things that were to the benefit of the program. Programmers for the most part hated it because it was harder to be "clever". If we were using languages that enforced discipline we would not have as many exploits because the compiled code would not allow the most typical avenue of attack, buffer overruns.

In theory C++ should prevent this because of type checking, but since the programmer can jsut drop down to C, well, we get what we deserve ... Fast is not always better. ...
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