Basically i want one of the machines that are on this list; Top SETI hosts

And i want it at a reasonable price!

How do i do that?

I want a PC that will clock 4000 + RAC a day!

{EDIT} 5000 or 6000 RAC a day if i can afford it!

Then you'll have to buy it off the shelf!

Then your only real off the shelf option is a Mac. All the top PCs that have large RAC numbers and are NOT MACs are OCd (except maybe the 16 processor servers) and you generally can't OC an off the shelf machine. Dells, for example, can't be OC'd unless you get the top of the line that they've OC'd for you. Just as an example, I have a stock speed Dell with a Q6600 in it, depending on the work being sent out, it varies from about 2600 - 2900 or so in RAC. I also have a few OC'd Q6600s the highest of which is about 3881 as I type this, it can go a little higher, but I don't THINK I've seen it break 4K since the latest round of adjustment (2.85 multiplier) was put in place. So basically, this is just to say that you'll either need to OC or spend a lot on a serious off the shelf machine to break 4000.

-Dave

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Basically i want one of the machines that are on this list; Top SETI hosts

And i want it at a reasonable price!

How do i do that?

I want a PC that will clock 4000 + RAC a day!

{EDIT} 5000 or 6000 RAC a day if i can afford it!

Then you'll have to buy it off the shelf!

Wow!!! that is just pure bliss. That MAC is just pure pornography for me head!

Price; Eur 2,539.00..... Hmmmmm.... I might just stretch to that price. I can get it "Less VAT" =(Eur 2,098.35 ex VAT)

I'm not sure about MAC though!

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Basically i want one of the machines that are on this list; Top SETI hosts

And i want it at a reasonable price!

How do i do that?

I want a PC that will clock 4000 + RAC a day!

{EDIT} 5000 or 6000 RAC a day if i can afford it!

Then you'll have to buy it off the shelf!

Wow!!! that is just pure bliss. That MAC is just pure pornography for me head!

Price; Eur 2,539.00..... Hmmmmm.... I might just stretch to that price. I can get it "Less VAT" =(Eur 2,098.35 ex VAT)

I'm not sure about MAC though!

Err, you won't get away with just the base spec.

You'll want the octo (dual quad core), and quad channel memory, making Eur 3,568.60 minimum (without VAT or monitor).

Basically i want one of the machines that are on this list; Top SETI hosts

And i want it at a reasonable price!

How do i do that?

I want a PC that will clock 4000 + RAC a day!

{EDIT} 5000 or 6000 RAC a day if i can afford it!

Then you'll have to buy it off the shelf!

Wow!!! that is just pure bliss. That MAC is just pure pornography for me head!

Price; Eur 2,539.00..... Hmmmmm.... I might just stretch to that price. I can get it "Less VAT" =(Eur 2,098.35 ex VAT)

I'm not sure about MAC though!

Err, you won't get away with just the base spec.

You'll want the octo (dual quad core), and quad channel memory, making Eur 3,568.60 minimum (without VAT or monitor).

Yes, i see that now. I'm just flicking through the options and price configurations on the apple shop site. The prices are as bad as the Dell website. This is what i mean when i say that these components can be bought cheaper on there own.

Its quite a difficult choice to make.

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This might sound dumb but can i buy a cheap "Off the shelf" PC and stick in a Hugh processor like the ones on this page; 3GHz + processors

And then Over clock the life out of the processor!

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This might sound dumb but can i buy a cheap "Off the shelf" PC and stick in a Hugh processor like the ones on this page; 3GHz + processors

And then Over clock the life out of the processor!

If you do that, you need to make sure the sockets are correct. For instance, you wanted to start off by buying a "cheap" PC, which I can almost guarantee you is going to be a Socket 775 or Socket AM2. Those Xeons you posted are all Socket 771 and won't work in a Socket 775 configuration. You'd have to buy a "cheap" dual socket server to start with.

Then, there's the problem with overclocking. As stated earlier, most manufacturers refuse to allow the end user to change any speed settings in the BIOS (which is pretty much the only way to overclock safely these days). On top of that, most Socket 771 motherboards are designed for servers and workstations, of which reliability is of the utmost concern, so overclocking is usually not allowed here either.

Your best options for DIY is to either buy a Q6600 (which probably won't get you to the top 100 without phase cooling) or consider buying the new V8 stuff from Intel (using two QX9850s), which will probably cost more than the Mac Pros.

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Well, remember that there's a reason that cheap systems are so... But also, the page you linked to has two Intel Xeons at the top that are Dempsey core chips, so they use hyperthreading and aren't as good at crunching as the newer chips, plus they're socket 771, not sure what luck you'd have getting a cheap system that would take these chips (and not already have them in it, too). And remember that many off the shelf systems can't be OC'd, either. So you'd also need to check that out.

-Dave

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Hi,

Your best options for DIY is to either buy a Q6600 (which probably won't get you to the top 100 without phase cooling)............

Watch my two newly build Q6600's. Both cooled with "Zalman 9500 AT's" and pretty much same hardware. Main difference is OS. Vista 64bit vs XP 32bit.

One is build 6 weeks ago and has been in Top50 for 4 weeks(Vista 64bit) and I expect the other with XP32bit (build 3 days ago) to arrive Top50 in a week. ;-) (if not pushed out by constantly arriving 8 cores ;-))

They are both running at excact same clockspeed (3.4Ghz) and RAM timings/speed. They will be competing against each other (Vista64bit vs XP32bit) for at least 6 weeks to determine which OS is fastest.

Regards
Kim

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Greetings from Norway

Crunch3er & AK-V8 Inside

You guys have set me straight in many ways here. I need to study what you have told me and decide where to go from here.

I also need to hold off until i know what my final budget is going to be. I'm getting very carried away looking at all the flashy advertising on the apple website and all the cool stuff i could buy if i had the money. I'm a sucker for flashy computer ad's!..LOL

I will come back to this!

Thank you guys!, i will keep you posted!

John.

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Decisions decisions lol, you will make the right choice in the end :-)

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http://www.mikesbawx.org/~timmygadget/

I don't THINK I've seen it break 4K since the latest round of adjustment (2.85 multiplier) was put in place.

Well, I guess I spoke too soon, it's over 4K now... 4083 at the moment.

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I don't THINK I've seen it break 4K since the latest round of adjustment (2.85 multiplier) was put in place.

Well, I guess I spoke too soon, it's over 4K now... 4083 at the moment.

dnolan,
Your clockin the life out of that CPU... I love to hear stuff like that! LOL

For me... Well i just have to settle for a nice badge until money comes through!

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[quote]I don't THINK I've seen it break 4K since the latest round of adjustment (2.85 multiplier) was put in place.

Well, I guess I spoke too soon, it's over 4K now... 4083 at the moment.

dnolan,
Your clockin the life out of that CPU... I love to hear stuff like that! LOL

That does seem like alot of credit. Your running at 3.0 I guess it's a xenon cause it doesn't give a model number. I'll know better in a couple of weeks, to see whats mine's doing............

My modest suggestion: Buy a Mac :)

Nothing beats Alex Kan's optimized SETI-apps - and the new Mac Pros will be very serious kickers!

Johnney, this comes from a dedicated PC user who has been building his own PC systems for over 20 years. If you really want to get into the top 100, buy the Mac. (not the base sytems but the full 3 Ghz with 2 chips, etc.) I currently run 10 computers. 3 are Mac's. The others are self build, 3 of which are Q6600 based machines. I spend a lot of time keeing the self build machines running right. Spent half the day yesturday diagnoising and repairing what turned out to be a bad hard drive. One machine is down and I dont't yet know why. The mac's are essentially plug'em and forget'em machines. I have Imac's and they are not in the top 100, but they give my other systems a run for thier money.
If you really want to learn how computers work, then by all means build your own. But if you goal is just to get into the top 100 ASAP, them "buy the powermac". Oh and don't tell any of my friends I said that.

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But overclocking an air-cooled Q6600 self-build into the top_hosts top 100 is soooo much more satisfying ;)

I managed to get to about 85 a week or so ago with a RAC about 3650, at which point I decided that I had reached the limit with my mobo so I switched 25% back over to CPDN and I'm now hovering around the 200 mark :(

F.

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That does seem like alot of credit. Your running at 3.0 I guess it's a xenon cause it doesn't give a model number. I'll know better in a couple of weeks, to see whats mine's doing............

Nope, it's a Q6600 ...

-Dave

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That does seem like alot of credit. Your running at 3.0 I guess it's a xenon cause it doesn't give a model number. I'll know better in a couple of weeks, to see whats mine's doing............

It looks to me like the Q6600 B1 revision doesn't report the model number while the G0 revision (lower TDP) does.

F.

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That does seem like alot of credit. Your running at 3.0 I guess it's a xenon cause it doesn't give a model number. I'll know better in a couple of weeks, to see whats mine's doing............

It looks to me like the Q6600 B1 revision doesn't report the model number while the G0 revision (lower TDP) does.

F.

Could be....I just checked, and both of my Q6600's (not G0), report as
GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 7].

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