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Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : schrodinger's cat--collapse of the wave function
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I have been relearning some theoretical physics and am just as stumped as I was back in Grad School by the Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum mechanics. | |
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Can someone enlighten me further ?? Is it all also a state of mind for our understanding? You must assume all possible states until you can know better or until you have disturbed the system and determined what was the case... Are there any physical examples that require simultaneously all superposition states to simultaneously assert an effect? (As opposed to possibly being there until one state is resolved by measurement.) And for all of that, might we may just be observing multiple views of one multidimensional aspect?... So... Are there possibly 'hidden variables' or is it all really 'random'? Keep searchin', Martin ps: I very probably don't know! ps #2: A state of thoroughly conscious ignorance is the prelude to any real advance of knowledge. - James Maxwell ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3) | |
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All these problems have been discussed and rediscussed many times. It is difficult to give answers to your questions in a short message. I can only point to two books by Roger Penrose, "The emperor's new mind" (easier) and "Shadows of the mind" (more technical). They both deal with quantum mechanics and the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox, which opened a new field of research now leading to quantum computing. Good luck! | |
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All these problems have been discussed and rediscussed many times. It is difficult to give answers to your questions in a short message... That sounds very similar to the book margin note written by Fermat... ;-) Is there a 'brief' answer to: Are there any physical examples that require simultaneously all superposition states to simultaneously assert an effect? ? Regards, Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3) | |
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All these problems have been discussed and rediscussed many times. It is difficult to give answers to your questions in a short message... I would not compare myself to Fermat. Any measurement implies a reduction of the state function (a projection of the Hilbert vector on a suitable basis). Beyond this I am unable to say anything worthwhile. ____________ | |
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All these problems have been discussed and rediscussed many times. It is difficult to give answers to your questions in a short message... Yes--there are experiments involving the release of a single particle (photon or neutron) that demonstrably takes both of two alternate paths--Not too hard to understand since the "particle" also has the properties of a wave even though it is a single entity. From here its hard for me to make the leap that an "observer" causes the determination of an event that decides which of two states you find the particle and that it was in a superposition of both states prior to the "observer looking". I think I know how to get at this now -- i remember that there is the two-slit experiment that I need to go back and try to understand. ____________ | |
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