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Message 676059 - Posted: 11 Nov 2007, 18:07:36 UTC
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Public release date: 31-Aug-2001

Mega-tsunami to devastate US coastline

A tsunami wave higher than any in recorded history threatens to ravage the US coastline in the aftermath of a volcanic eruption in the Canary Islands, UK and US scientists will report today. Locations on both African and European Atlantic coastlines - including Britain - are also thought to be at risk.

The new research, a collaboration between Dr. Simon Day of the Benfield Greig Hazard Research Centre at UCL and Dr. Steven Ward of the University of California, reveals the extent and size of the mega-tsunami, the consequence of a giant landslide that may be triggered by a future eruption of the Cumbre Vieja volcano.

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Message 676586 - Posted: 12 Nov 2007, 13:57:46 UTC - in response to Message 676059.  

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Fifty-kilometre-high waves?! Methinks a proofreader was asleep at the switch É

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Message 676719 - Posted: 12 Nov 2007, 18:40:18 UTC - in response to Message 676586.  

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Fifty-kilometre-high waves?! Methinks a proofreader was asleep at the switch É


It had me fooled for a moment. I actually checked to see how high Nelson's Column really was.


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Message 676741 - Posted: 12 Nov 2007, 19:13:32 UTC

Fifty-kilometer waves? That would make Earth look like Iapetus (scaled up to Earth's size).
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Message 676796 - Posted: 12 Nov 2007, 21:19:55 UTC - in response to Message 676719.  

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Fifty-kilometre-high waves?! Methinks a proofreader was asleep at the switch É

It had me fooled for a moment. I actually checked to see how high Nelson's Column really was.

Well, the article got that part right; itÕs certainly less than 50 km tall. ;)
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Message 677181 - Posted: 13 Nov 2007, 14:16:19 UTC - in response to Message 676741.  

Fifty-kilometer waves? That would make Earth look like Iapetus (scaled up to Earth's size).


Yeah, it would make for one hell of a surf.

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Message 677185 - Posted: 13 Nov 2007, 14:20:14 UTC - in response to Message 676796.  

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Fifty-kilometre-high waves?! Methinks a proofreader was asleep at the switch É

It had me fooled for a moment. I actually checked to see how high Nelson's Column really was.

Well, the article got that part right; itÕs certainly less than 50 km tall. ;)


Now if it said as high as the Tower of Babel I would've been fooled for good.


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Message 677258 - Posted: 13 Nov 2007, 16:28:11 UTC
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It is clear natural routine that in every 1 million years earth passes huge natural phenomenon like tsunami, earthquake, asteriod and every 50k years there is an ice age. The latest big fact is the Yellowstone park volcano in north america that if it explodes the earth might get into snow cover for all year around for 2-3 years. The last big super volcano explosion was in Indonesia about 100 years ago.

If people manage to prepare intelligently for these phenomenons it is quite cool adventure. But there are many negative advertisements on this like doomday or the end day stuffs.

Instead of inventing all kinds of weapons if there were super single family shelter for all kinds of natural disasters and super home electricity station (nuclear, solar, wind powered) invented all those Mega-Phenomenons are could be considered as kind of cool adventure.
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Message 677297 - Posted: 13 Nov 2007, 17:22:27 UTC - in response to Message 677181.  

Fifty-kilometer waves? That would make Earth look like Iapetus (scaled up to Earth's size).


Yeah, it would make for one hell of a surf.


I don't know if that fellow finally wiped out or not.

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Message 677723 - Posted: 14 Nov 2007, 15:10:36 UTC - in response to Message 677258.  
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It is clear natural routine that in every 1 million years earth passes huge natural phenomenon like tsunami, earthquake, asteriod and every 50k years there is an ice age. The latest big fact is the Yellowstone park volcano in north america that if it explodes the earth might get into snow cover for all year around for 2-3 years. The last big super volcano explosion was in Indonesia about 100 years ago.

If people manage to prepare intelligently for these phenomenons it is quite cool adventure. But there are many negative advertisements on this like doomday or the end day stuffs.

Instead of inventing all kinds of weapons if there were super single family shelter for all kinds of natural disasters and super home electricity station (nuclear, solar, wind powered) invented all those Mega-Phenomenons are could be considered as kind of cool adventure.


Ah, you're thinking of humans as a highly efficient species that plan for and deal with events such as these much better than we do. Unfortunately that isn't how it is.

Just a few examples: People keep living right next to oceans. Even when the land is almost level with the water. Another one is here in America people keep building homes from wood even when the area is in a tornado or hurricane zone.
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Message 677729 - Posted: 14 Nov 2007, 15:40:43 UTC - in response to Message 677297.  

Fifty-kilometer waves? That would make Earth look like Iapetus (scaled up to Earth's size).


Yeah, it would make for one hell of a surf.


I don't know if that fellow finally wiped out or not.


I'm not sure but it looks like he might have wiped out in the end. I think he was surfing in a competition.

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Message 677730 - Posted: 14 Nov 2007, 15:41:08 UTC
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Ah, you're thinking of humans as a highly efficient species that plan for and deal with events such as these much better than we do. Unfortunately that isn't how it is.

Just a few examples: People keep living right next to oceans. Even when the land is almost level with the water. Another one is here in America people keep building homes from wood even when the area is in a tornado or hurricane zone.



Step by step people are improving 20 years ago there was not any imaginative chance that anywhere in the world corners people can discuss any subject almost live in the digital forum for almost free of charge, improving one anothers ideas regardless of location or other factors.

If we keep discussing and pushing advanced ideas one way or other indirectly we might benefit from that.

I respect how science-technology and education is promoted in America yet there are many mistakes are being done but I am sure somewhere someone is inventing some good stuffs (if law and economic factors could favor that).
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Message 677837 - Posted: 14 Nov 2007, 19:34:02 UTC - in response to Message 677730.  

20 years ago there was not any imaginative chance that anywhere in the world corners people can discuss any subject almost live in the digital forum for almost free of charge

Free of charge as in water? Sorry, we pay dearly for this technology, computer costs, software costs, isp fees... And even worse, it's mostly used to manipulate the masses rather than to educate them... ;)
It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .
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Message 677882 - Posted: 14 Nov 2007, 21:46:17 UTC - in response to Message 677837.  
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20 years ago there was not any imaginative chance that anywhere in the world corners people can discuss any subject almost live in the digital forum for almost free of charge

Free of charge as in water? Sorry, we pay dearly for this technology, computer costs, software costs, isp fees... And even worse, it's mostly used to manipulate the masses rather than to educate them... ;)



It is true everything has negative and positive sides. And in countries where common sense tend to be protected and forced through law, new technologies would improve life standart but other ways it is the way as you says.

That is why instead of inventing weapons if public ideals should direct those tech advancements to living standard improvement is more concerned issue here.

Maybe more positive trend of public education might help on many advancements.


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Message 677964 - Posted: 14 Nov 2007, 23:35:12 UTC - in response to Message 677882.  
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Maybe more positive trend of public education might help on many advancements.

Actually what's needed is a good dose of reality... It's the 'remain positive no matter how vile things get' attitude that has lead to the current state of 'mass delusion'...

Positive thinking = It's okay to be a habitual liar... ;)
It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .
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Message 681159 - Posted: 19 Nov 2007, 16:23:14 UTC

Tidal wave threat 'over-hyped'

The risk of a landslide in the Canary Islands causing a tidal wave (tsunami) able to devastate America's east coast is vastly overstated.
That is the view of marine geologists studying ancient landslides in the area.

In typical Canary Island landslides, chunks of land break off in bits, not in one dramatic plunge, they argue.

This contradicts previous warnings that an Isle of Man-sized chunk of land could fall off the island of La Palma into the sea, causing a mega-tsunami.

However, the researchers behind the original claim are sticking to their guns, pointing to evidence of catastrophic past events in the region.

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Message 681182 - Posted: 19 Nov 2007, 17:58:41 UTC

This is a simulation of a tsunami that may result from a large landslide caused by the eruption of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on the island of La Palma.
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Message 684037 - Posted: 25 Nov 2007, 1:55:56 UTC
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Could raw wave relate to tsunami? Because certain few giant ship get sank by raw waves maybe numbers unknown.
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Message 684062 - Posted: 25 Nov 2007, 3:11:01 UTC - in response to Message 684037.  
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Could raw wave relate to tsunami? Because certain few giant ship get sank by raw waves maybe numbers unknown.


I'm not sure what you mean by raw wave. I suppose a giant ship could be sunk if a relatively large wave hit it. Maybe you mean waves that occur during bad weather. Large waves are more common in some places becuase of the shape of the ocean floor.
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Message 684088 - Posted: 25 Nov 2007, 4:40:07 UTC - in response to Message 684062.  
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Could raw wave relate to tsunami? Because certain few giant ship get sank by raw waves maybe numbers unknown.


I'm not sure what you mean by raw wave. I suppose a giant ship could be sunk if a relatively large wave hit it. Maybe you mean waves that occur during bad weather. Large waves are more common in some places becuase of the shape of the ocean floor.


It was showed on national geographic tv that rarely sailors or capitans witness giant wave (you know the Posiedon movie 2 years ago) that 40-60meters high and they call that Raw Wave.

The latest big witness is some Norwegian cruise ship, they said that the wave height was around 50meters tall.

And it occurs in sea suddenly from no-where. It is the famous NG tried to show certain facts hence I am hypothesizing that it might relate to tsu.

Try to dig the net on Norvegian ship adventure maybe many witnesses might posted facts on the net.
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