I have the latest version of BOINC installed on a Macbook (Intel Core Duo), and set it to run as a service. In the preferences, I set it to run after the computer has been idle for 5 minutes...but unless I manually start it, BOINC never starts (regardless of how long the Macbook is idle).

With the Mac plugged in, I've got power management set to never sleep the machine, and I've tried reinstalling BOINC.

Any ideas?

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I have the latest version of BOINC installed on a Macbook (Intel Core Duo), and set it to run as a service. In the preferences, I set it to run after the computer has been idle for 5 minutes...but unless I manually start it, BOINC never starts (regardless of how long the Macbook is idle).

With the Mac plugged in, I've got power management set to never sleep the machine, and I've tried reinstalling BOINC.

Any ideas?

You mean (to confirm) OSX System preferences Energy Saver is set to "Never" sleep?

It's worth checking to see the settings in BOINC Manager main menu Activity.
I keep mine on "Run Always" and "Network activity based on preferences".

You may also find it useful, assuming you have broadband, to set Advanced/Preferences/NetworkUsage/Tuesday to "22:00-17:00" as this will stop repeated requests for task download/upload to SETI when the regular weekly outage for maintenance is taking place.
I think these times are correct as UTC. but if they are local time you may need to revise accordingly.

Under Advanced/preferences the options only apply to "this computer" only over-riding other settings made elsewhere.

Hope this may help

Keith

I have the latest version of BOINC installed on a Macbook (Intel Core Duo), and set it to run as a service. In the preferences, I set it to run after the computer has been idle for 5 minutes...but unless I manually start it, BOINC never starts (regardless of how long the Macbook is idle).

With the Mac plugged in, I've got power management set to never sleep the machine, and I've tried reinstalling BOINC.

Any ideas?

You mean (to confirm) OSX System preferences Energy Saver is set to "Never" sleep?

It's worth checking to see the settings in BOINC Manager main menu Activity.
I keep mine on "Run Always" and "Network activity based on preferences".

You may also find it useful, assuming you have broadband, to set Advanced/Preferences/NetworkUsage/Tuesday to "22:00-17:00" as this will stop repeated requests for task download/upload to SETI when the regular weekly outage for maintenance is taking place.
I think these times are correct as UTC. but if they are local time you may need to revise accordingly.

Under Advanced/preferences the options only apply to "this computer" only over-riding other settings made elsewhere.

Hope this may help

Keith

Yes, it's set to "Never" in the power management settings.

I didn't want to have it running "Always", as I only want to run BOINC when I'm not using the computer. Which is why I set it to run as a service and to run after the computer has been idle for 5 minutes.

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OS X has such clean tasking that I am unable to tell if Bionc is up or down by the way my system functions. Once I thought Bionc was the source of a slow down, but it turned out to be a fragmented disk. Set it to always run and if you haven’t, look at this thread some time. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=39135

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OS X has such clean tasking that I am unable to tell if Bionc is up or down by the way my system functions. Once I thought Bionc was the source of a slow down, but it turned out to be a fragmented disk. Set it to always run and if you haven’t, look at this thread some time. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=39135

I can tell it's not running, however, since up until I set it to run at all times it turned in no results. Now it is actually finishing work and sending in results.

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I have the latest version of BOINC installed on a Macbook (Intel Core Duo), and set it to run as a service. In the preferences, I set it to run after the computer has been idle for 5 minutes...but unless I manually start it, BOINC never starts (regardless of how long the Macbook is idle).

With the Mac plugged in, I've got power management set to never sleep the machine, and I've tried reinstalling BOINC.

Any ideas?

You mean (to confirm) OSX System preferences Energy Saver is set to "Never" sleep?

It's worth checking to see the settings in BOINC Manager main menu Activity.
I keep mine on "Run Always" and "Network activity based on preferences".

You may also find it useful, assuming you have broadband, to set Advanced/Preferences/NetworkUsage/Tuesday to "22:00-17:00" as this will stop repeated requests for task download/upload to SETI when the regular weekly outage for maintenance is taking place.
I think these times are correct as UTC. but if they are local time you may need to revise accordingly.

Under Advanced/preferences the options only apply to "this computer" only over-riding other settings made elsewhere.

Hope this may help

Keith

Yes, it's set to "Never" in the power management settings.

I didn't want to have it running "Always", as I only want to run BOINC when I'm not using the computer. Which is why I set it to run as a service and to run after the computer has been idle for 5 minutes.

In BOINC go to the Advanced menu and select preferences. Clicking the Clear button and then updating the BOINC client will use the accout preferences. My Mac Pro was using the default preferences when I migrated my login to it from a G5 tower.

Taras

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I have the latest version of BOINC installed on a Macbook (Intel Core Duo), and set it to run as a service. In the preferences, I set it to run after the computer has been idle for 5 minutes...but unless I manually start it, BOINC never starts (regardless of how long the Macbook is idle).

With the Mac plugged in, I've got power management set to never sleep the machine, and I've tried reinstalling BOINC.

Any ideas?

You mean (to confirm) OSX System preferences Energy Saver is set to "Never" sleep?

It's worth checking to see the settings in BOINC Manager main menu Activity.
I keep mine on "Run Always" and "Network activity based on preferences".

You may also find it useful, assuming you have broadband, to set Advanced/Preferences/NetworkUsage/Tuesday to "22:00-17:00" as this will stop repeated requests for task download/upload to SETI when the regular weekly outage for maintenance is taking place.
I think these times are correct as UTC. but if they are local time you may need to revise accordingly.

Under Advanced/preferences the options only apply to "this computer" only over-riding other settings made elsewhere.

Hope this may help

Keith

Yes, it's set to "Never" in the power management settings.

I didn't want to have it running "Always", as I only want to run BOINC when I'm not using the computer. Which is why I set it to run as a service and to run after the computer has been idle for 5 minutes.

In BOINC go to the Advanced menu and select preferences. Clicking the Clear button and then updating the BOINC client will use the accout preferences. My Mac Pro was using the default preferences when I migrated my login to it from a G5 tower.

Taras

That's not doing it, either. I can tell from RAC/results sent in by the Mac...if I don't manually set it's activity to "Run Always" it never picks up (even when I'm at work, and the computer is completely idle).

Unless I set it to "Run Always", BOINC never seems to realize the computer is "idle" and start processing. BOINC is running as a service (and I can see in Activity Monitor that it's indeed running), it just never does anything.

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Oh, missed the word service... are you running the command line version or the graphical version?

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I have the latest version of BOINC installed on a Macbook (Intel Core Duo), and set it to run as a service. In the preferences, I set it to run after the computer has been idle for 5 minutes...but unless I manually start it, BOINC never starts (regardless of how long the Macbook is idle).

With the Mac plugged in, I've got power management set to never sleep the machine, and I've tried reinstalling BOINC.

Any ideas?

You mean (to confirm) OSX System preferences Energy Saver is set to "Never" sleep?

It's worth checking to see the settings in BOINC Manager main menu Activity.
I keep mine on "Run Always" and "Network activity based on preferences".

You may also find it useful, assuming you have broadband, to set Advanced/Preferences/NetworkUsage/Tuesday to "22:00-17:00" as this will stop repeated requests for task download/upload to SETI when the regular weekly outage for maintenance is taking place.
I think these times are correct as UTC. but if they are local time you may need to revise accordingly.

Under Advanced/preferences the options only apply to "this computer" only over-riding other settings made elsewhere.

Hope this may help

Keith

Yes, it's set to "Never" in the power management settings.

I didn't want to have it running "Always", as I only want to run BOINC when I'm not using the computer. Which is why I set it to run as a service and to run after the computer has been idle for 5 minutes.

In BOINC go to the Advanced menu and select preferences. Clicking the Clear button and then updating the BOINC client will use the accout preferences. My Mac Pro was using the default preferences when I migrated my login to it from a G5 tower.

Taras

That's not doing it, either. I can tell from RAC/results sent in by the Mac...if I don't manually set it's activity to "Run Always" it never picks up (even when I'm at work, and the computer is completely idle).

Unless I set it to "Run Always", BOINC never seems to realize the computer is "idle" and start processing. BOINC is running as a service (and I can see in Activity Monitor that it's indeed running), it just never does anything.

I would suggest that something might be running in the background so that your computer is never actually idle. There is also the possibility that ClimatePrediction is hogging all the processing time?

But, even if that is not so, why not, as a compromise, set Activity/Run Based On Preferences and set (for this computer only) at Advanced/Preferences.../Processor Usage to fixed times when you want it to run SETI in your normal "resting hours". This can be done for every day the same, or for each day of the week individually. Then, on the odd occasion that you do "overtime", you can set Activity/Suspend and revert to Activity/Run Based On Preferences when you finish. As I said, it's a compromise, but if all else has failed.....

Keith
P.S. You'll need to download and upgrade to 5.10.26 to use the time scheduling, as it was not working , if I remember correctly, in 5.10.24 (or was it 5.10.20) and earlier. This may possibly also correct your original problem even with no changes in settings, so it's worth updating before anything else..

But, even if that is not so, why not, as a compromise, set Activity/Run Based On Preferences and set (for this computer only) at Advanced/Preferences.../Processor Usage to fixed times when you want it to run SETI in your normal "resting hours". This can be done for every day the same, or for each day of the week individually. Then, on the odd occasion that you do "overtime", you can set Activity/Suspend and revert to Activity/Run Based On Preferences when you finish. As I said, it's a compromise, but if all else has failed.....

Keith
P.S. You'll need to download and upgrade to 5.10.26 to use the time scheduling, as it was not working , if I remember correctly, in 5.10.24 (or was it 5.10.20) and earlier. This may possibly also correct your original problem even with no changes in settings, so it's worth updating before anything else..

Do you set the "Day of Week Override" to the times you want it to run or the times you want it to NOT run?

And I'm wondering if this will work, since it seems to ignore the preferences.

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But, even if that is not so, why not, as a compromise, set Activity/Run Based On Preferences and set (for this computer only) at Advanced/Preferences.../Processor Usage to fixed times when you want it to run SETI in your normal "resting hours". This can be done for every day the same, or for each day of the week individually. Then, on the odd occasion that you do "overtime", you can set Activity/Suspend and revert to Activity/Run Based On Preferences when you finish. As I said, it's a compromise, but if all else has failed.....

Keith
P.S. You'll need to download and upgrade to 5.10.26 to use the time scheduling, as it was not working , if I remember correctly, in 5.10.24 (or was it 5.10.20) and earlier. This may possibly also correct your original problem even with no changes in settings, so it's worth updating before anything else..

Do you set the "Day of Week Override" to the times you want it to run or the times you want it to NOT run?

And I'm wondering if this will work, since it seems to ignore the preferences.

Actually, I tried that...the daily settings do not save, nor does the computer use them. If I run the client it works fine, but installing as a service on Mac OS X only seems to allow the option to run constantly or never run...no in-between.

What am I missing here?

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But, even if that is not so, why not, as a compromise, set Activity/Run Based On Preferences and set (for this computer only) at Advanced/Preferences.../Processor Usage to fixed times when you want it to run SETI in your normal "resting hours". This can be done for every day the same, or for each day of the week individually. Then, on the odd occasion that you do "overtime", you can set Activity/Suspend and revert to Activity/Run Based On Preferences when you finish. As I said, it's a compromise, but if all else has failed.....

Keith
P.S. You'll need to download and upgrade to 5.10.26 to use the time scheduling, as it was not working , if I remember correctly, in 5.10.24 (or was it 5.10.20) and earlier. This may possibly also correct your original problem even with no changes in settings, so it's worth updating before anything else..

Do you set the "Day of Week Override" to the times you want it to run or the times you want it to NOT run?

And I'm wondering if this will work, since it seems to ignore the preferences.

Actually, I tried that...the daily settings do not save, nor does the computer use them. If I run the client it works fine, but installing as a service on Mac OS X only seems to allow the option to run constantly or never run...no in-between.

What am I missing here?

As I mentioned earlier, this option does not work on earlier versions of BOINC Manager, so make sure you're updated, preferably to 5.10.26. Earlier versions discarded amendments immediately after adjustments were made. From your reply above, it seems as though you are running an older version of BOINC Manager 5.10.xx when you say it "does not save".

The exact formatting required is shown by hovering the cursor over the entry box. The ON time is first and OFF time second. So, it looks strange to do, as I have done, to "switch off" by ticking Tuesday and entering "22:00-17:00" to stop network activity during weekly outages.

Keith

P.S. You can confirm that it works correctly by putting a temporary entry in for the current day-of-week as, say, "23:00-01:00" and then go to the messages panel where you will see the relevant message immediately. As an example, here is an extract from my Tuesday message panel:

Tue 23 Oct 17:00:00 2007||Suspending network activity - time of day
Tue 23 Oct 19:34:44 2007|SETI@home|Computation for task 21mr07ab.17658.1299.13.6.126_0 finished
Tue 23 Oct 19:34:44 2007|SETI@home|Resuming task 21mr07ae.14665.4571.5.6.54_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
Tue 23 Oct 22:00:00 2007||Resuming network activity

P.P.S. Just checked, and it appears you are still running 5.10.20, which explains it. Just update from the SETI@home website Download/AllVersions and 5.10.27 is now available. It's so much easier now. You don't even have to quit BOINC Manager to do so, but do make sure that all completed tasks are uploaded first with an "update" from the Projects panel. Don't panic if you see "suspended" in the Tasks panel, as that is a routine CPU benchmark test which takes exactly one minute.

Keith

But, even if that is not so, why not, as a compromise, set Activity/Run Based On Preferences and set (for this computer only) at Advanced/Preferences.../Processor Usage to fixed times when you want it to run SETI in your normal "resting hours". This can be done for every day the same, or for each day of the week individually. Then, on the odd occasion that you do "overtime", you can set Activity/Suspend and revert to Activity/Run Based On Preferences when you finish. As I said, it's a compromise, but if all else has failed.....

Keith
P.S. You'll need to download and upgrade to 5.10.26 to use the time scheduling, as it was not working , if I remember correctly, in 5.10.24 (or was it 5.10.20) and earlier. This may possibly also correct your original problem even with no changes in settings, so it's worth updating before anything else..

Do you set the "Day of Week Override" to the times you want it to run or the times you want it to NOT run?

And I'm wondering if this will work, since it seems to ignore the preferences.

Actually, I tried that...the daily settings do not save, nor does the computer use them. If I run the client it works fine, but installing as a service on Mac OS X only seems to allow the option to run constantly or never run...no in-between.

What am I missing here?

As I mentioned earlier, this option does not work on earlier versions of BOINC Manager, so make sure you're updated, preferably to 5.10.26. Earlier versions discarded amendments immediately after adjustments were made. From your reply above, it seems as though you are running an older version of BOINC Manager 5.10.xx when you say it "does not save".

The exact formatting required is shown by hovering the cursor over the entry box. The ON time is first and OFF time second. So, it looks strange to do, as I have done, to "switch off" by ticking Tuesday and entering "22:00-17:00" to stop network activity during weekly outages.

Keith

P.S. You can confirm that it works correctly by putting a temporary entry in for the current day-of-week as, say, "23:00-01:00" and then go to the messages panel where you will see the relevant message immediately. As an example, here is an extract from my Tuesday message panel:

Tue 23 Oct 17:00:00 2007||Suspending network activity - time of day
Tue 23 Oct 19:34:44 2007|SETI@home|Computation for task 21mr07ab.17658.1299.13.6.126_0 finished
Tue 23 Oct 19:34:44 2007|SETI@home|Resuming task 21mr07ae.14665.4571.5.6.54_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
Tue 23 Oct 22:00:00 2007||Resuming network activity

P.P.S. Just checked, and it appears you are still running 5.10.20, which explains it. Just update from the SETI@home website Download/AllVersions and 5.10.27 is now available. It's so much easier now. You don't even have to quit BOINC Manager to do so, but do make sure that all completed tasks are uploaded first with an "update" from the Projects panel. Don't panic if you see "suspended" in the Tasks panel, as that is a routine CPU benchmark test which takes exactly one minute.

Keith

Keith, the latest version I see for Mac OS X is 5.10.20. If there is a newer version, it must be for Windows, but I've got a Mac. I just went to the download page and .20 was the newest it shows, aside from development versions.

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Keith, the latest version I see for Mac OS X is 5.10.20. If there is a newer version, it must be for Windows, but I've got a Mac. I just went to the download page and .20 was the newest it shows, aside from development versions.
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That's it. The "development" version has the options available since 5.10.24, I think it was. I've been keeping up with the latest versions available for some time now. If any minor problems arise, which they haven't, it would be useful for SETI to notify details on the message board. I am sure that you will find no problem in updating to 5.10.27. I did so this morning and all is well.

You might also be interested in Alex Kan's latest enhanced version of SETI. It is available at:-

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=31810&nowrap=true#656269

If you do wish to do so and want more information, let me know and I'll guide you through, but you should be OK following this to get much improved crunching speed.
First quit BOINC Manager. Then the downloaded files have to be dropped into the folder at:-
Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/Projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu
If there's a permissions alert on running BOINC Manager afterwards, select setiathome.berkeley.edu folder, GetInfo (Cmd I) Open "Ownership and Permissions" and "Details", then "Apply to enclosed items" and restart BOINC Manager again.

Keith