Do you think we'll get it?

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Do you think we'll get it?

Nope... It wasn't predicted... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

Do you think we'll get it?

Nope... It wasn't predicted... ;)

You're right, not by Nostradamus. But are we slaves to prediction?

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But are we slaves to prediction?

Nope... But as long as my source remains accurate, I shall 'stay the course'... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

But are we slaves to prediction?

Nope... But as long as my source remains accurate, I shall 'stay the course'... ;)

So what is your source? Please share...

It's not Neville Chamberlain is it?

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So what is your source? Please share...

Nope... I perceive a trap... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

So what is your source? Please share...

Nope... I perceive a trap... ;)

I'm sure that I don't want to trap you Jeffrey. I'm just interested to see whether people want to talk about peace, whether it can be achieved.

Seems not.

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Do you think we'll get it?

You'll need to ask Neville Chamberlain the anwser to that one...

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I partly disagree. Nationalism has to vanish. But not freedom. (Well depends on how you define it ).
Freedom doesn't necessarily mean that you can do everything you want and are able to do. Speaking of freedom, I rather tend to prefer the rule of the Wicca: "Do what you want, but harm no-one."
You can also have peace though being an individual, if you follow a few principles: respect the others, tolerate their way of living and their opinions and beliefs, treat them like you want to be treated by them, and replace concurrence with co-operation.

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There would have to be a world wide mass brainwashing to get that to fly.

Already in the works... ;)

(And if you don't like THEM, they will isolate you from EVERYONE else until you do.)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

[There would have to be a world wide mass brainwashing to get that to fly.

Already in the works... ;)

(And if you don't like THEM, they will isolate you from EVERYONE else until you do.)

When someone figures out peace algorithm and Boinc begins to crunch it we will likely to bring it. ;)

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Do you think we'll get it?

I am lucky because for me locally there is already peace in my time.

It just doesn't exist every where for everyone.

The majority of humans live peacefully with each other. The only time they don't is when they feel threatened or when those with power incite the masses to hate others.

I don't expect total peace will ever happen but I do expect us to be able to create a world in which we as a community can force those who want to fight to stand down and resolve their problems through dialogue and negotiation.

No nation ever went to war before it's people were either convinced by threat or by it's leaders to do so.

We can't eradicate threat from outside but we could, if we wanted, eradicate those leaders within our countries who love to play on our fears.

For me there will never be a relative world peace until we get rid of leaders who promote hate or we remove the poverty and lack of education that allows leaders to take so much control..


On the other hand I wonder what will happen when resources like oil, copper, coal start to run dry in the West... Will we be so civil to our neighbours then?


Did you know that Malaria has killed more people through out history than all wars put together!

I consider anybody who advocates 'peace' who does not also advocate for individual rights and the prohibition of the intiation of force to be insincere at best and a liar at worst.

I don't find it fruitful to even think of discussing 'peace' with anyone that will not express advocacy of that principle.

Big Waste of Time.

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I consider anybody who advocates 'peace' who does not also advocate for individual rights and the prohibition of the intiation of force to be insincere at best and a liar at worst.

I don't find it fruitful to even think of discussing 'peace' with anyone that will not express advocacy of that principle.

Big Waste of Time.

I haven't got a clue what you're talking about Robert. WHO are you talking about? WHO is it that you won't discuss peace with? For the record "I" have not advocated "peace" in this thread, neither did I define, as initiator of this thread, what "peace" I was talking about. Maybe peace to sit in my own garden without the noise of traffic annoying me? But as I didn't, you can sulk away from whatever "peace" people wish to discuss here. Goodbye.

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I consider anybody who advocates 'peace' who does not also advocate for individual rights and the prohibition of the intiation of force to be insincere at best and a liar at worst.

I don't find it fruitful to even think of discussing 'peace' with anyone that will not express advocacy of that principle.

Big Waste of Time.

I haven't got a clue what you're talking about Robert. WHO are you talking about? WHO is it that you won't discuss peace with? For the record "I" have not advocated "peace" in this thread, neither did I define, as initiator of this thread, what "peace" I was talking about. Maybe peace to sit in my own garden without the noise of traffic annoying me? But as I didn't, you can sulk away from whatever "peace" people wish to discuss here. Goodbye.

What a strange strange strange response from you. HMmmmm.

Perhaps you haven't gotten your latest orders from Gang? Or mayhaps you have?

Just deal with what I say as an idea and stop your personal vendettas.

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I did NOT authorize this belly writing!

I consider anybody who advocates 'peace' who does not also advocate for individual rights and the prohibition of the intiation of force to be insincere at best and a liar at worst.

I don't find it fruitful to even think of discussing 'peace' with anyone that will not express advocacy of that principle.

Big Waste of Time.

I haven't got a clue what you're talking about Robert. WHO are you talking about? WHO is it that you won't discuss peace with? For the record "I" have not advocated "peace" in this thread, neither did I define, as initiator of this thread, what "peace" I was talking about. Maybe peace to sit in my own garden without the noise of traffic annoying me? But as I didn't, you can sulk away from whatever "peace" people wish to discuss here. Goodbye.

What a strange strange strange response from you. HMmmmm.

Perhaps you haven't gotten your latest orders from Gang? Or mayhaps you have?

Just deal with what I say as an idea and stop your personal vendettas.

@R/B: Actually R/B since your post followed mine and I used the word "force" in my post I did wonder if you meant me when you used the words 'insincere' and 'liar.'

I did think about responding at that time but I spent the time wondering to myself instead.

In a perfect world no one should ever use force. In this imperfect world we have to us some force at times but if we are good we won't use undue force and we will avoid it for as long as we can.


@ICE: I thought you mostly meant world peace as in no wars and no civil unrest and then a general demeanour of respect for others.


Maybe I messed up all around.


My friend once said that I had a Vendetta. I thought he said a Lambretta. No wonder it kept crashing. Poo :o)~

Perhaps you haven't gotten your latest orders from Gang? Or mayhaps you have?

Robert, I have no idea what you're talking about. Try being more specific. Say what you mean. Read what you type before you press the 'post reply' button to see if it makes sense. Maybe add a few clues to make sure it does.

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@ICE: I thought you mostly meant world peace as in no wars and no civil unrest and then a general demeanour of respect for others.

That's quite right cRunchy. It's what I had mind. Is it possible to be in a world without wars and the sort of stand-offs between N and S Korea? Arthur C Clarke's science fiction was always 'just round the corner', so peace could well be 'in our time' and perhaps the younger amongst us would see it. It would pre-suppose that the terrorists might stop soon - is that just science fiction?

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