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Message 660656 - Posted: 16 Oct 2007, 21:11:03 UTC

Turns out the air conditioner coolant was actually down to near 50% full. After the tech filled it to normal levels this morning the temperatures immediately dropped about 5 degrees Celsius all over the closet. Sweet. They'll check again for leaks in the coming days.

The Tuesday outage for database backup/compression went just fine, except we wanted to take this opportunity to get a couple more Sun 220s shut down and removed from the closet, as well as get Eric's hydrogren database server ewen railed up and moved elsewhere in the racks (to improve its air flow). Well, none of that happened - once again despite having actual rails made for ewen they wouldn't fit in any of our non-standard racks in any configuration. Lots of heavy lifting, bolting/unbolting, cabling/decabling, and nothing to show for it. Very frustrating. And due to routing/apache configuration issues galore we ultimately couldn't shut down our old public web servers. In fact, we had to move klaatu out of the way for what we thought was going to be a successful ewen relocation, which meant turning penguin back on and making *that* a public web server. And then I realized there were libs that only existed on klaatu's disks, so I had to recompile php/apache on kosh/penguin to remove that dependency. All these efforts, and we're basically where we were yesterday afternoon. Except the air conditioner is working for realsies.

Maybe sometime this week I'll get back to what I was working on before all this nonsense. Hmm... What was I working on?

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Message 660737 - Posted: 16 Oct 2007, 22:57:00 UTC


Patience is a Virtue - Nice work @ Berkeley as usual All . . .

Thanks for the Update Matt.

btw - ever figure out ?what? you were workin' on before . . . maybe another drive eh ;)


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Message 660903 - Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 1:33:29 UTC - in response to Message 660747.

Only wish I could be there to help with things.

If I had the chance, $, time, etc. I'd actually be willing to volunteer a week of time to help work on the project, doing that small stuff like rewiring closet, etc. to make things neater. I'd think it be awesome to help the guys out.

I do love reading the (nearly) daily updates that we get here. As others state, it makes me feel closer to the project, and know there is meaning out there.

Of course, if all the "small stuff" was done, what would keep your time when that 1 hour compile is going on, and you don't have 1001 other little things to bide the time while that is kicking?

The life of being everything in one. I miss it so. My current job I am so specialized, it's almost routine what I do daily. I'd welcome a "fire" rich job like the SETI crew has.

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Message 660971 - Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 3:01:44 UTC - in response to Message 660656.

I know it's hoakey, but could you use a rack shelf for Ewen? As long as she's not a 20U server. :)

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Message 661057 - Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 4:30:00 UTC - in response to Message 660936.

Only wish I could be there to help with things.

If I had the chance, $, time, etc. I'd actually be willing to volunteer a week of time to help work on the project, doing that small stuff like rewiring closet, etc. to make things neater. I'd think it be awesome to help the guys out.

I do love reading the (nearly) daily updates that we get here. As others state, it makes me feel closer to the project, and know there is meaning out there.

Of course, if all the "small stuff" was done, what would keep your time when that 1 hour compile is going on, and you don't have 1001 other little things to bide the time while that is kicking?

The life of being everything in one. I miss it so. My current job I am so specialized, it's almost routine what I do daily. I'd welcome a "fire" rich job like the SETI crew has.

I dunno if the boyz in the lab would consider it a help or a hindrance, but I think 'Seti Servant of the Day' would be a wonderful position to fill. I live in Wisconsin, so the commute would kill me, but if I lived next door, I would be knocking on that door asking if I could lend a hand for a day to help with some mundane chore or another. Heck, I would consider it a badge of honor just to polish the monitor screens for a day...LOL.
They could post it on the home page....'Today's Seti Servant is...........'

LOL If I had more knowledge of all this computer stuff, I do live next door, Berkeley is only a couple hour drive for me. LOL One day I hope to get down there and actually meet the folks behind the madness. :-)

Thanks for the updates Matt. :-)
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Message 661058 - Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 4:31:44 UTC - in response to Message 660971.
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I know it's hoakey, but could you use a rack shelf for Ewen? As long as she's not a 20U server. :)


< suggestion: DJ - mention to Blurf: Donation Thread re:

he'll let you know 'if' . . . hope that helps

richard

note: saw that you Post there as well DJ - Q. was obviously directed @ Matt ;)

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Message 661145 - Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 7:31:40 UTC

Umm is this the reason my program went wacky? It has been stuck for like a couple of days says "Waiting for Memory" What is up with that. lol

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Message 661245 - Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 13:24:52 UTC - in response to Message 661145.

Umm, is this the reason my program went wacky? It has been stuck for like a couple of days says "Waiting for Memory" What is up with that. lol


Nope, "waiting for memory" means exactly that... the program is waiting for more memory than is available at that time... to avoid, add memory (if possible!) to that machine - particularly any machine with less than .5 Gb, running Win XP or Vista.

If still stuck, suspend BOINC, exit the BOINC manager, and re-boot your computer... (memory fragments over time, as programs shuttle in/out of memory; and M$ Windows isn't particularly good at gathering those fragments...)

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Message 661257 - Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 14:06:24 UTC

Are the project servers down again?

Wed Oct 17 10:02:21 2007|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 08mr07ac.28234.2117.12.6.113: http error
Wed Oct 17 10:02:21 2007|SETI@home|Backing off 43 min 28 sec on download of file 08mr07ac.28234.2117.12.6.113
Wed Oct 17 10:02:22 2007||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
Wed Oct 17 10:02:30 2007||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
Wed Oct 17 10:02:30 2007|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 02mr07ai.3316.20931.10.5.80: http error
Wed Oct 17 10:02:30 2007|SETI@home|Backing off 3 hr 44 min 14 sec on download of file 02mr07ai.3316.20931.10.5.80
Wed Oct 17 10:02:31 2007||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.


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Message 661260 - Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 14:27:02 UTC - in response to Message 661257.

Are the project servers down again?

Wed Oct 17 10:02:21 2007|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 08mr07ac.28234.2117.12.6.113: http error
Wed Oct 17 10:02:21 2007|SETI@home|Backing off 43 min 28 sec on download of file 08mr07ac.28234.2117.12.6.113
Wed Oct 17 10:02:22 2007||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
Wed Oct 17 10:02:30 2007||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
Wed Oct 17 10:02:30 2007|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 02mr07ai.3316.20931.10.5.80: http error
Wed Oct 17 10:02:30 2007|SETI@home|Backing off 3 hr 44 min 14 sec on download of file 02mr07ai.3316.20931.10.5.80
Wed Oct 17 10:02:31 2007||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.


Taras

While I don't think so (the Cricket page shows normal activity), the Server Status page hasn't updated in the last 90 minutes.
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Message 661261 - Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 14:30:47 UTC - in response to Message 661257.

Are the project servers down again?
I just got a WU downloaded.

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Message 661263 - Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 14:34:05 UTC - in response to Message 661257.

Are the project servers down again?

Wed Oct 17 10:02:21 2007|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 08mr07ac.28234.2117.12.6.113: http error
Wed Oct 17 10:02:21 2007|SETI@home|Backing off 43 min 28 sec on download of file 08mr07ac.28234.2117.12.6.113
Wed Oct 17 10:02:22 2007||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
Wed Oct 17 10:02:30 2007||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
Wed Oct 17 10:02:30 2007|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 02mr07ai.3316.20931.10.5.80: http error
Wed Oct 17 10:02:30 2007|SETI@home|Backing off 3 hr 44 min 14 sec on download of file 02mr07ai.3316.20931.10.5.80
Wed Oct 17 10:02:31 2007||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.


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Try stopping and restarting BOINC. I had the same problem on one of my hosts and a restart fixed the problem.
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Message 661289 - Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 15:33:18 UTC

Thanks, that did the trick.
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Message 661332 - Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 18:06:23 UTC - in response to Message 660656.

once again despite having actual rails made for ewen they wouldn't fit in any of our non-standard racks in any configuration. - Matt



:) Seems to me in this high tech world we've lost some basic skills - the blacksmith, the metal-worker, the bloke with a drill, hammer, and nail file.
Amusing (in the nicest possible way) that all that technology can get jello'd by a bit of iron-work.

(sigh!)

Thanks for the post Matt - much appreciated.

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Message 661473 - Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 21:26:38 UTC - in response to Message 661332.

once again despite having actual rails made for ewen they wouldn't fit in any of our non-standard racks in any configuration. - Matt



:) Seems to me in this high tech world we've lost some basic skills - the blacksmith, the metal-worker, the bloke with a drill, hammer, and nail file.
Amusing (in the nicest possible way) that all that technology can get jello'd by a bit of iron-work.

(sigh!)

Thanks for the post Matt - much appreciated.

Bugslug.


i still work with hand-tools as well as high end systems (design)

< see my link here: The Artistry of Woodworking - Tools as Works of Art . . .

> my brother that died a few years back - was a blacksmith - knivemaker (damascus) brilliant artist to say the least . . . ;)


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Message 661514 - Posted: 17 Oct 2007, 22:04:57 UTC

No big shakes today so I'm not going to bother starting a new thread - got down to working on code (always take an hour or so to remind myself what the hell I was doing). Bob, Jeff, and I are still trying to sort out the science database replica and how to manage it. We already had to recreate it a couple times, which is painful as it takes days to rebuild it from scratch. It doesn't behave at all like MySQL replication, so there's gonna be some growing pains.

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Message 661720 - Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 3:13:31 UTC - in response to Message 661514.

No big shakes today so I'm not going to bother starting a new thread - got down to working on code (always take an hour or so to remind myself what the hell I was doing). Bob, Jeff, and I are still trying to sort out the science database replica and how to manage it. We already had to recreate it a couple times, which is painful as it takes days to rebuild it from scratch. It doesn't behave at all like MySQL replication, so there's gonna be some growing pains.

- Matt

I wish you guys luck Matt. And thanks for the update.
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Message 661811 - Posted: 18 Oct 2007, 9:05:37 UTC - in response to Message 661263.

Are the project servers down again?

Wed Oct 17 10:02:21 2007|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 08mr07ac.28234.2117.12.6.113: http error
Wed Oct 17 10:02:21 2007|SETI@home|Backing off 43 min 28 sec on download of file 08mr07ac.28234.2117.12.6.113
Wed Oct 17 10:02:22 2007||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.
Wed Oct 17 10:02:30 2007||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
Wed Oct 17 10:02:30 2007|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 02mr07ai.3316.20931.10.5.80: http error
Wed Oct 17 10:02:30 2007|SETI@home|Backing off 3 hr 44 min 14 sec on download of file 02mr07ai.3316.20931.10.5.80
Wed Oct 17 10:02:31 2007||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.


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Try stopping and restarting BOINC. I had the same problem on one of my hosts and a restart fixed the problem.


Worked for me, too. Both files that were sitting out there downloaded immediately as soon as I asked for a retry.
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