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PoopDog Send message Joined: 30 Dec 03 Posts: 14 Credit: 670 RAC: 0 |
I have completed two units or whatever so far and it says pending under credits,when will I be credited for completed work? also when my screensave comes on,it lists user as "Owner" and Not my registered name? |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
OK, you have 2 in progress listed under your computer. If you had two that you completed earlier, these were not granted credit (and they are now gone from the system so they are going to be hard to track). Watch the next couple to see if they are granted credit - sometimes things just go wrong, this happens to everyone. But if this happens to a large fraction of your tasks, there is something wrong. The most likely candidates for the problem are: overly ambitious overclocking, overheating, and bad RAM. There are of course other problems that can occur. PS. I do not know if you are overclocked at all, but the Floating Point Unit (FPU) is more sensitive to overclocking than the Integer Processing Unit and the Logic Unit. The OS uses only the later two, but most BOINC tasks use the FPU almost exclusively. For the next one, can you let us know if there is a validation error, a compution error, or if the task is just reported late? You can find this on the web page for the task. BOINC WIKI |
PoopDog Send message Joined: 30 Dec 03 Posts: 14 Credit: 670 RAC: 0 |
OK, you have 2 in progress listed under your computer. If you had two that you completed earlier, these were not granted credit (and they are now gone from the system so they are going to be hard to track). OK,Thank you very much,I have been granted credit for one so we we know there seems to be nothing wrong with the configuration,looks like I was just a bit impatient, and my user name has been fixed also,Thanx Again!PS: OUT OF CURIOUSITY{Oopscaps}What is overly ambitious overclocking? Sorry,I'm still in the learning stage so alot of these terms are all grek to me at this point. Thank You! JP |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
OK, you have 2 in progress listed under your computer. If you had two that you completed earlier, these were not granted credit (and they are now gone from the system so they are going to be hard to track). Overclocking is speeding up the clock rate of the CPU. If you do it too much the OS stops working. But even if the OS is working, other things may not work quite right. If things are not working quite right because of overclocking, you were obviously over ambitious, in other words, you speed up the CPU clock too much. BOINC WIKI |
BlackIceDefender Send message Joined: 26 Dec 03 Posts: 3 Credit: 4,507 RAC: 0 |
I have been watching this thread. I also have several pending credits. I have two laptops running for this project. One is a prehistoric Dell Latitude D600 single CPU on Windows XP. This one gets credits granted shortly after completed tasks are reported. The secnd one is a new HP Pavillion, dual core on Windows Vista. Also much more memory. This one has all it's credits pending. Why? On the other project I support with both machines, all credit gets confirmed within at most 24 hours. While I do not think the creditig is important, I am concerned that the numbers calculated by my machines are of scientific value (especially whether they are valid results). I am under the assumption that a confirmd credit indicates that the result is validated for further use in the project. Is this correct? |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Is this correct? Two results are needed to begin validation of a workunit. A slower computer will more often be the last one to return the workunit, thus getting it's validation rather quickly. A faster machine will more than likely fly through workunits and often be the first to return many, thus waiting on slower hosts to return the second workunit to begin validation. Not all projects require 2 for validation. It really depends on what kind of science they are doing and what level of verification they need for said science, so of course other projects will differ in how quickly credit is granted. |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
I have been watching this thread. I also have several pending credits. I have two laptops running for this project. One is a prehistoric Dell Latitude D600 single CPU on Windows XP. This one gets credits granted shortly after completed tasks are reported. Having two results that are returned from different computers helps to guarantee that the result is accurate. There are many causes for inaccuracy in the results returned, ranging from a stray cosmic ray flipping a bit at the wrong moment to overclocking too much to bad memory to overheating to outright attempts to cheat. Since S@H cannot do a quick verification to see if the results are correct S@H has to rely on redundancy. Some projects can do a rapid check once an answer has been returned. In these cases, finding the original question from the answer is very rapid, but finding the answer from the original question is slow. The example is factoring numbers. Finding a factor is very slow, but once you have the factors, multiplying them back together is very rapid. BOINC WIKI |
BlackIceDefender Send message Joined: 26 Dec 03 Posts: 3 Credit: 4,507 RAC: 0 |
I have been watching this thread. I also have several pending credits. I have two laptops running for this project. One is a prehistoric Dell Latitude D600 single CPU on Windows XP. This one gets credits granted shortly after completed tasks are reported. I therefore assume that once credit is confirmed, it indicates that the result has been validated and will be used further. That was my question and is the only concern I have. I do not care about the crediting scores. The original concern is the wu's below: 639304663 170125882 19 Oct 2007 12:20:58 UTC 28 Oct 2007 4:40:58 UTC In Progress Unknown New --- --- --- 638719787 169860001 18 Oct 2007 13:38:32 UTC 19 Oct 2007 12:20:58 UTC Over Success Done 27,348.25 51.14 pending 638204223 169621118 17 Oct 2007 17:11:05 UTC 9 Dec 2007 4:06:59 UTC In Progress Unknown New --- --- --- 637041738 169099937 16 Oct 2007 15:51:12 UTC 18 Oct 2007 20:34:57 UTC Over Success Done 29,957.37 64.01 pending 637022078 169091419 16 Oct 2007 15:09:48 UTC 17 Oct 2007 21:08:21 UTC Over Success Done 26,961.43 74.83 pending 636331313 168800540 14 Oct 2007 17:20:29 UTC 14 Oct 2007 23:23:19 UTC Over Success Done 3,844.79 13.30 pending 636169874 168724224 14 Oct 2007 21:16:07 UTC 16 Oct 2007 0:08:03 UTC Over Success Done 16,134.06 63.98 63.98 634646189 168010995 12 Oct 2007 22:50:58 UTC 14 Oct 2007 3:06:02 UTC Over Success Done 14,976.35 52.26 pending 634300422 167856357 13 Oct 2007 3:55:01 UTC 14 Oct 2007 2:35:38 UTC Over Success Done 15,046.06 52.27 pending |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
I therefore assume that once credit is confirmed, it indicates that the result has been validated and will be used further. That was my question and is the only concern I have. I do not care about the crediting scores. That is correct. Once you return the WU, it will stay in 'pending' status until it's pair is returned also (or if you are the pair, it will begin validation at that point). Once the validator verifies the results match, then credit is granted. Every workunit you posted are all waiting for their pair so that validation can begin. |
John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
I have been watching this thread. I also have several pending credits. I have two laptops running for this project. One is a prehistoric Dell Latitude D600 single CPU on Windows XP. This one gets credits granted shortly after completed tasks are reported. Actually, only one of the results that validated is kept. The others are discarded since their value was in making certain that the results are valid. But if it is marked as valid, you are doing valid science and helping the project along. BOINC WIKI |
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