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Message 652297 - Posted: 1 Oct 2007, 13:59:36 UTC
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I would guess below other European contries, and better than the US of A?
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Message 652496 - Posted: 1 Oct 2007, 21:23:49 UTC - in response to Message 652284.  

As from today the legal age for buying tobacco has risen from 16 to 18, bringing it into line with the sale of alcohol, glue and fireworks.

Also new increases in statutory holidays and minimum wages.

Holidays for full time workers will rise from 20 to 24 days.

Adults wage from £5.35 to £5.52 per hour
18-21 wage from £4.44 to £4.60 per hour
16-17 wage from £3.30 to £3.40 per hour

How do those figures compare with elsewhere in the world?


The wages are less than here, but as our tax levels are so high, the wages are higher.

I tried to find the statistics about them, but I can't, but I saw on a site that the current minimum wage is about 83 Dk. Kr. per hour, and that is for an adult, as > 18. But most have a higher wage.

We have 25 holidays and 5 more in a special arrangement, socalled "care days", which originally were created for people with small children, but now, as we can have others to take care of than small children, have been expanded to all. They are usually held on days between holidays and weekends...


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Message 652555 - Posted: 1 Oct 2007, 23:47:47 UTC


I get 30 days holiday, plus an extra 12 days a year called 'flexi days' plus all the UK bank holidays, plus an extra days holiday for closing down over Christmas. In fact with weekends I probably get more days off than working. And I make sure I do by claiming to have flu and take a few days sick leave, as everybody else in the UK does.

So when I actually work, which is like maybe 3 hours in a day with the rest taken up with tea breaks and discussing football and cricket and the price of cocoa in Brazil, my hourly rate is probably - oooooooh - add all those numbers, multiply them by 4, divide by your IQ and add the number of people who have letters after their name in this forum - and that'll be be my minimum wage ;)


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Message 652595 - Posted: 2 Oct 2007, 1:02:59 UTC - in response to Message 652555.  
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Talking of UK legislation, the government, both local & national can now request details of our phone records & are working towards getting internet access records on the books.

George Orwell's "1984" is now really here.

I wonder what's next? - No "nookey unless authorised by the state?"

Totally ban tobacco & employ "cigarette wardens" to see if we are illegally smoking in our own homes?
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Message 652608 - Posted: 2 Oct 2007, 1:27:15 UTC - in response to Message 652595.  

George Orwell's "1984" is now really here.

It's been here for a long time... The scary part is that most people don't take notice, or even care...

The first time I saw my full name turn up in a traceroute I knew that we were in for it...

For those who don't know yet, your ip is about as secret (and revealing) as your social security number... ;)
It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .
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Message 652653 - Posted: 2 Oct 2007, 3:33:55 UTC

Wow! I guess this is political after all?!?
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Message 652697 - Posted: 2 Oct 2007, 4:56:27 UTC


Quote ::As from today the legal age for buying tobacco has risen from 16 to 18, bringing it into line with the sale of alcohol, glue and fireworks.


I think it is sort of funny that you mention glue in the same sentence with the drug alcohol. I guess that is because of "glue sniffing". :(

In the US the minimum wage is $5.85 by 2009 it will be a stupendous 7.25. No one can live on minimum wage here; likely the same everywhere.

Holidays? What are those (sort of kidding)? This American is a slave to his job. The only time I get off is when I am forced to take time off because of temporary plant shutdowns. Actually, I'm on my second of two weeks "forced" time off. Which I am enjoying by the way.

I wonder how workers in other "Western" developed countries view Globalization. I think workers in the USA are going to be devastated in the next few decades. Third World here we come.
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Message 652784 - Posted: 2 Oct 2007, 11:04:47 UTC

Did you see in the paper that a retail jobs worth was asking a 92 year ond for proof of his age before being allowed to buy fags?
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Message 653567 - Posted: 3 Oct 2007, 19:46:21 UTC

Get back to work you lazy stiffs.
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Message 656837 - Posted: 9 Oct 2007, 20:28:06 UTC

As from today the legal age for buying tobacco has risen from 16 to 18, bringing it into line with the sale of alcohol, glue and fireworks.

Here in Germany, they also rose the legal age for buying tobacco from 16 to 18 (which I find ridiculous) - BUT they told it in the News oly two days before it was valid. Have they thought of all the young ppl between 16 and 18 who are smokers? Should they buy a 2 years stock pile of tobacco? Then the ridiculous ban of smoking in pubs and discos... What is next? No alcohol, not even beer anymore until 21 like in the States?

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Message 657107 - Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 2:31:18 UTC - in response to Message 656837.  
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As from today the legal age for buying tobacco has risen from 16 to 18, bringing it into line with the sale of alcohol, glue and fireworks.

Here in Germany, they also rose the legal age for buying tobacco from 16 to 18 (which I find ridiculous) - BUT they told it in the News oly two days before it was valid. Have they thought of all the young ppl between 16 and 18 who are smokers? Should they buy a 2 years stock pile of tobacco? Then the ridiculous ban of smoking in pubs and discos... What is next? No alcohol, not even beer anymore until 21 like in the States?


Get used to it, Thorin. When you get the Government to be your nanny, they are gonna give you a nice long list of things 'that aren't good for you' and tell you that these things are now illegal. You can't have some little thing like freedom getting in the way of the state forcing you to do what is in your own best interests, ya know....

Blargh.

Socialism and Freedom are mutually exclusive. In my opinion, freedom is the best of the two choices.
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Message 657214 - Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 6:53:39 UTC
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For a moment I thought Rush would have changed his avatar into Major Kong's :O

Btw, FYI: Germany as it is now, is NO socialist country. Well, it's further away from fascism than the USA but it is not socialism either.
Though some mighty people want to change it towards Laissez-faire capitalism, it still can be called a "Social Market Economy". Still.

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Message 657256 - Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 9:01:28 UTC

I fully agree with all Bans on smoking in public places.
As a non smoker I don't want to breath the filth and stench of your habit.


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Message 657257 - Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 9:08:20 UTC - in response to Message 657256.  
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I fully agree with all Bans on smoking in public places.
As a non smoker I don't want to breath the filth and stench of your habit.

...that should also include people who don't bathe, brush their teeth, or change their underwear regularly.
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Message 657450 - Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 18:59:14 UTC

Interesting unintended consequence of the smoking ban near us. In a small village the smokers now gather outside the village pub to smoke. Right next door are family homes that complain about the noise and the smoke drifting in through their windows. Made their life quite miserable for 4-6 hours per day. Cannot get young children off to sleep. Perhaps the Government should compensate all those affected detrimentally by the smoking ban?



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Message 657452 - Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 19:04:23 UTC - in response to Message 657450.  

Perhaps the Government should compensate all those affected detrimentally by the smoking ban?

Perhaps people should be a little more thoughtful of others... ;)
It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .
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Message 657591 - Posted: 11 Oct 2007, 1:44:01 UTC

Down here when smoking bans were put in place it was all doom and gloom from business and Hospitality spokespeople, they would all have to close the pubs and clubs. What happened, their profits went up. Yep more people went out to enjoy themselves knowing they wouldn't have to suffer from smoke.

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Message 657678 - Posted: 11 Oct 2007, 7:42:48 UTC - in response to Message 657591.  

Down here when smoking bans were put in place it was all doom and gloom from business and Hospitality spokespeople, they would all have to close the pubs and clubs. What happened, their profits went up. Yep more people went out to enjoy themselves knowing they wouldn't have to suffer from smoke.

And you can't understand why they wanted to make their own decisions concerning their own private property?
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Message 657679 - Posted: 11 Oct 2007, 7:45:25 UTC - in response to Message 657256.  

I fully agree with all Bans on smoking in public places.
As a non smoker I don't want to breath the filth and stench of your habit.

Yet you're OK with the exhaust your car emits, which puts cigarettes to shame?

I mean, as a non-driver, I don't want to breathe the filth and stench of your habit, right? I should be able to ban your driving too, right?

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Message 657716 - Posted: 11 Oct 2007, 9:49:03 UTC - in response to Message 657678.  

Down here when smoking bans were put in place it was all doom and gloom from business and Hospitality spokespeople, they would all have to close the pubs and clubs. What happened, their profits went up. Yep more people went out to enjoy themselves knowing they wouldn't have to suffer from smoke.

And you can't understand why they wanted to make their own decisions concerning their own private property?


I understand perfectly.
If you open a building to the public, then its not private.
All decisions then must conform to the laws.
That's it.

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