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Message 651541 - Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 16:12:16 UTC - in response to Message 651528.  
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I remember long time ago a person who was so sad because he felt ignored on his teamboard, he felt that nobody noticed him. I had a longer email conversation with him about this. Now this person from India, who were quite active on this board and who joined your team, haven't you any ideas of why he suddenly stopped posting? He's apparently not posting on your teamboard, since you don't know him? Haven't you made him feel welcome and as a part of the family over there?


If I remember right, this person never posted on the TFFE team board. Actually there is only a small percentage of our active team members that have posted on that board. There is a welcome thread for all new team members at TFFE and all new members are welcomed. Who was the sad individual that felt ignored? I'll check the board threads.



You don't have to, ask cRunchy, he knows.

How come only a small percentage of your active team members post on your teamboard?


I'm not asking cRunchy, I'm asking you. You brought it up. You can PM me if you wish. But now that I think on it I believe you are referring to Monday, correct? I think the falling out on that issue happened here on the Seti boards but I could be mistaken. I'll PM Monday and he can tell me if he wishes to. It is always better to get info straight from the source, because it has a way of getting twisted and warped out of context secondhand.

What percentage of Synergy members post to the Synergy team boards? I believe the small percentage that posts at TFFE correlates to the small percentage of total BOINC participants that post on boards (team or project).

You are family according to cRunchy, you don't welcome people to the family?


I answered this in my previous post.


Has Monday left your team? I wasn't aware of that. What made him do that, didn't you treat him like family over there? I'm shocked! :-O

It was brought up in this thread, where cRunchy has been the most loud about this, that the admins and moderators of this project should be active in attracting posters from non-English speaking countries to come and post on these boards. India was brought up as an example, by cRunchy (why I don't know, as most of them speak English pretty well there, hence their past as a member of the Commonwealth and being under the British Crown), so I ask about that Indian guy who was very active posting on the board and then suddenly disappeared. Again, cRunchy refers to his/your team as family, so I wonder why you haven't greeted your new family member from India and made him stay as an active poster.

Again, cRunchy's big concern is to keep people posting here because these boards provides, or it should provide according to him, a nice emotional welcoming atmosphere. He calls the admins and the moderators sterile and is terrified by the thought that this project is about to crunch numbers for a scientific project about finding radio signals from space which might indicate some intelligent lifeforms out there, and he empathize with the aliens, in case they come here, if they see how un-emotional this board is, because we don't, again according to him, actively invite people from all parts of the world to come and post here in their own native languages. I just make the analogy to your team here because of cRunchy's concern for all the people out there in the whole big world, and because he refers to his team as his family and he wants this forum to provide the same feeling of emotional familiarity here. Then I ask, how come you don't have all your members to participate on your teamboard as that big family, cRunchy thinks this board should be?

Hvilket nu vil få mig til at slå over i mit eget sprog, siden det er så vigtigt for cRunchy, at folk som jeg, der kommer fra et ikke-engelsk talende land, kan udtrykke mig på mit eget sprog. Så lad os se hvor meget kommunikation, der vil komme ud af det!



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Message 651576 - Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 16:48:45 UTC

Ville nyde indfald Engelsk , nemlig den sprog i den SETI forum , er den kulturel følge i den Indre. Anden sprogene kunne opstille i deres moder tunge , men svarer af den overvægt vil stå lavt nemlig de hjælp Engelsk!
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Message 651608 - Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 17:15:55 UTC - in response to Message 651576.  
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Ville nyde indfald Engelsk , nemlig den sprog i den SETI forum , er den kulturel følge i den Indre. Anden sprogene kunne opstille i deres moder tunge , men svarer af den overvægt vil stå lavt nemlig de hjælp Engelsk!

Sorry I didn't understand this. I only understand German, English and Boloney though I know several other laguages ;)
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Message 651690 - Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 18:08:07 UTC - in response to Message 651585.  



Are you really? I'm reluctant to believe that you was not aware, being seemingly tight with Monday to be exchanging emails. Are you really shocked or playing the at home Seti board game? If you repeat the same thing over and over again, perhaps you will believe it yourself.


I exchange emails with Monday? LMAO The only thing I exchange with him are mod notes when I delete his posts! And they are for all to see, it's my impression that they are being published to a larger group of people these days, besides the mod list?

Ok Ok, I must admit I was not really shocked, in fact I don't really care. I just wonder why he would leave your team, he seemed to fit in so well? That was news to me.

Yes, repeating the same thing over and over again can make people believe them, I have seen that so many times on these board that lies are being spread and then repeated over and over, and suddenly they are being internalized as the truth to those who never dared to question their own perceptions. This phenomenon has been seen in history at all times, and also on these boards. There is nothing you really can do about it, because those who internalize the lies as the truth don't have the integrity to stand up against it.



It was brought up in this thread, where cRunchy has been the most loud about this, that the admins and moderators of this project should be active in attracting posters from non-English speaking countries to come and post on these boards. India was brought up as an example, by cRunchy (why I don't know, as most of them speak English pretty well there, hence their past as a member of the Commonwealth and being under the British Crown), so I ask about that Indian guy who was very active posting on the board and then suddenly disappeared. Again, cRunchy refers to his/your team as family, so I wonder why you haven't greeted your new family member from India and made him stay as an active poster.


Concerning greeting team members, I've answered this before. Refer to my post previous to the previous one. We don't make anyone stay (or even force them to post). Does your team require all members to post to the Synergy boards? Does no one ever leave Synergy for whatever reason? Will this and previous questions I've asked be answered?


I have already answered your question in the quoted part.


Again, cRunchy's big concern is to keep people posting here because these boards provides, or it should provide according to him, a nice emotional welcoming atmosphere. He calls the admins and the moderators sterile and is terrified by the thought that this project is about to crunch numbers for a scientific project about finding radio signals from space which might indicate some intelligent lifeforms out there, and he empathize with the aliens, in case they come here, if they see how un-emotional this board is, because we don't, again according to him, actively invite people from all parts of the world to come and post here in their own native languages. I just make the analogy to your team here because of cRunchy's concern for all the people out there in the whole big world, and because he refers to his team as his family and he wants this forum to provide the same feeling of emotional familiarity here. Then I ask, how come you don't have all your members to participate on your teamboard as that big family, cRunchy thinks this board should be?


It is the participants choice ultimately. I was only questioning and answering specific portions of your "analogy". And your choice thereof and motivations.

;)



And I have made my comments clear in the quoted part. ;)


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Message 651692 - Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 18:08:15 UTC - in response to Message 651482.  


Just because someone is a minority, doesn't mean they should be catered to. If they don't want to be a minority, they need to do something about it. It's their choice to invite their friends or find a place that they feel comfortable. There's been no hostility here toward different cultures that I've seen (nor women despite claims to the contrary), so there's no reason to go out of our way to specifically target them and say "hey! Come post here! We love ya!" If they want to post, then they will. If they don't feel comfortable, then we cannot and should not have to hold their hands until they do.


LOL.

You need to learn about a little something called Institutionalized Sexism.

Once you have read that I will point out the places where the seti forums reinforce institutionalized sexism.

Why have about 3 former FEMALE seti posters messaged me in private mentioning these things then?
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Message 651699 - Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 18:10:33 UTC - in response to Message 651608.  

Ville nyde indfald Engelsk , nemlig den sprog i den SETI forum , er den kulturel følge i den Indre. Anden sprogene kunne opstille i deres moder tunge , men svarer af den overvægt vil stå lavt nemlig de hjælp Engelsk!

Sorry I didn't understand this. I only understand German, English and Boloney though I know several other laguages ;)


Neither do I.

I can see some Danish words, but semantically it's nonsense.



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Message 651727 - Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 18:28:24 UTC
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Now now,sta imamo ovde.

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Praphul Sen Ugrasenan

He abruptly stopped posting out of no reason,and does not crunch for this project.
The man must have got bored.
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Message 651751 - Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 19:01:23 UTC - in response to Message 651727.  

Now now,sta imamo ovde.

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It was:
Praphul Sen Ugrasenan

He abruptly stopped posting out of no reason,and does not crunch for this project.
The man must have got bored.

From what I remember he did post on the team boards too. For longer than he posted on the seti boards I think.
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Message 651780 - Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 19:38:31 UTC - in response to Message 651516.  

SNIP..

You don't have to, ask cRunchy, he knows.

How come only a small percentage of your active team members post on your teamboard? You are family according to cRunchy, you don't welcome people to the family?




Oh poo Fuzzy. I never said my team was a family that Fuzzy could attack. I said my team was "my family"...

Please stop using me as a battering ram for your own politics.

For me my team is my family. That does not mean others will feel the same thing. Other members of TFFE treat the group in their own way.

Do you dislike my affiliations?

Please do not hammer other people because of anything I said.

It seems we (cRunchy and Fuzzy) are in some kind of battle.

I don't want to fight anymore.

The meaning of Orgil's thread is more important to me..



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Message 651781 - Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 19:39:52 UTC - in response to Message 651727.  

Now now,sta imamo ovde.

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It was:
Praphul Sen Ugrasenan

He abruptly stopped posting out of no reason,and does not crunch for this project.
The man must have got bored.


I know. I remember him well, and I know he's still in your team. But I thought cRunchy should find out for himself, since he's so concerned about all the Indians and all the people in the world that they must be invited to this project and specially to this forum for emotional and humane reasons. As I pointed out earlier, I find it weird that he is less concerned about the people who already have been here and are in his team than he is for the anonymous masses out there.

I don't know if Praphul got bored, he didn't seem bored to me back when he posted, so something must have made him leave. I know for certain that I have addressed him nice and, with cRunchy's rhetorics, warm feelings. In English, of course, as that was our common ground language wise so to speak.


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Message 651786 - Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 19:43:53 UTC - in response to Message 651780.  
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SNIP..

You don't have to, ask cRunchy, he knows.

How come only a small percentage of your active team members post on your teamboard? You are family according to cRunchy, you don't welcome people to the family?




Oh poo Fuzzy. I never said my team was a family that Fuzzy could attack. I said my team was "my family"...

Please stop using me as a battering ram for your own politics.

For me my team is my family. That does not mean others will feel the same thing. Other members of TFFE treat the group in their own way.

Do you dislike my affiliations?

Please do not hammer other people because of anything I said.

It seems we (cRunchy and Fuzzy) are in some kind of battle.

I don't want to fight anymore.

The meaning of Orgil's thread is more important to me..



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Ahhhhh cRunchy, pooohhhh!

I'm happy times have changed for you, cRunchy, that you now feel you are sitting at the table. You know very well what I am talking about, I have the emails to show. :-)

Of course you can always make a new caption competition and give a t-shirt to the winner to attract people to this project and board. :-)


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Message 651787 - Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 19:44:14 UTC - in response to Message 651780.  

SNIP..

You don't have to, ask cRunchy, he knows.

How come only a small percentage of your active team members post on your teamboard? You are family according to cRunchy, you don't welcome people to the family?




Oh poo Fuzzy. I never said my team was a family that Fuzzy could attack. I said my team was "my family"...

Please stop using me as a battering ram for your own politics.

For me my team is my family. That does not mean others will feel the same thing. Other members of TFFE treat the group in their own way.

Do you dislike my affiliations?

Please do not hammer other people because of anything I said.

It seems we (cRunchy and Fuzzy) are in some kind of battle.

I don't want to fight anymore.

The meaning of Orgil's thread is more important to me..



Regards.

Fuzzy doesn't like the TFFE...and her personal bias is really showing in this thread. Try not to take it to heart.
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Message 651790 - Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 19:47:08 UTC - in response to Message 651781.  

I find it weird that he is less concerned about the people who already have been here and are in his team than he is for the anonymous masses out there.

My my my, this sure brings back some 'wonderful workplace memories'... Not... ;)
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Message 651794 - Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 19:52:16 UTC - in response to Message 651790.  

I find it weird that he is less concerned about the people who already have been here and are in his team than he is for the anonymous masses out there.

My my my, this sure brings back some 'wonderful workplace memories'... Not... ;)



I'm sorry for that Jeffrey, I didn't mean to stir up unpleasant memories for you.

Did you see my post in the Altruism thread about this?

But yes, it's weird how concerned some people are about anonymous people they never have met when they at the same time are so ignorant towards people they should be concerned about, people who are not strangers.


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Message 651798 - Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 19:57:08 UTC

Awww,well we cant all get along...

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Message 651806 - Posted: 30 Sep 2007, 20:03:44 UTC - in response to Message 651798.  

Awww,well we cant all get along...


You are saying that Praphul didn't get along with you? That was bad, I thought he was a nice person, very agreeable.

Anyway, the discussion here is the Seti Forum diversification, how do you feel, as a non-English speaking person as myself, we get along here, across the nationalities?



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