The SETI Forum diversification - CLOSED

Everybody can post in their own native languages, and I have seen posts and threads in Japanese, Chinese, Spanish, French, German, and I occasionally post in my own native language Danish myself.

But it is a fact that if you want to communicate to a larger group than your own language group, English is the international language to do it in.

It was discussed in the beginning of the existence of this forum about which language to use, and English was what people wanted to be the most used language. But again, I have seen people ask questions in other languages and get answers from people in the same language. In the Cafe there are threads in other languages, like German.

I guess people use their own team boards when they want to communicate in their own language, like Danish, French, German, etc.

Nobody will forbid you to post in what language you might want to use.


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It is not matter of language only. Maybe language factor is less than 50% whole world understands that english is pretty much international language.

But amazingly out of 200 nationals too few are speaking which reveals something is wrong with forum Admins, forum Mods and their policy lack of restoring international culture.

The background of this forum is over 220 countries.

Everybody can post in their own native languages, and I have seen posts and threads in Japanese, Chinese, Spanish, French, German, and I occasionally post in my own native language Danish myself.

But it is a fact that if you want to communicate to a larger group than your own language group, English is the international language to do it in.

It was discussed in the beginning of the existence of this forum about which language to use, and English was what people wanted to be the most used language. But again, I have seen people ask questions in other languages and get answers from people in the same language. In the Cafe there are threads in other languages, like German.

I guess people use their own team boards when they want to communicate in their own language, like Danish, French, German, etc.

Nobody will forbid you to post in what language you might want to use.

I remember a guy from India who were quite active in the Cafe, he was nice. He joined team TFFE, by the way. He suddenly stopped posting, what became of him? Have you heard from him?



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Though what does amaze me for example is the massive growth of computer usage in India yet so few people in India are involved in SETI.

I am not sure what we can do about it.
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I remember a guy from India who were quite active in the Cafe, he was nice. He joined your team, by the way. He suddenly stopped posting, what became of him? Have you heard from him?

I have no idea Fuzzy! (If you remember his name please let me know.)

I think given there are 900+ million in India and a rapidly expanding middle class and a high level of computer education one single individual that may or may not have joined my team is small fry related to the topic.

What do you think Fuzzy?

How many Indian, African, Chinese people join in or crunch in comparison to Europe or the US?

I think the only people to blame are those that own or support the project.


(No one should ever be dismissed with a word.)

I don't think this is SETI@Home's responsibility to basically make people talk on the boards.

If people from other cultures have something to say, they will say it. I've seen the occasional multilingual posts. There's certainly nothing preventing people from other cultures to post their thoughts. You can't force them to speak up. What more do you want? Why don't you start more multilingual posts and see if you can find others to talk to? If you cannot, it's not SETI@Home's fault nor is it their responsibility to find people for you to talk to. They are in the science business, not the social networking business.
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I don't think this is SETI@Home's responsibility to basically make people talk on the boards.

If people from other cultures have something to say, they will say it. I've seen the occasional multilingual posts. There's certainly nothing preventing people from other cultures to post their thoughts. You can't force them to speak up. What more do you want? Why don't you start more multilingual posts and see if you can find others to talk to? If you cannot, it's not SETI@Home's fault nor is it their responsibility to find people for you to talk to. They are in the science business, not the social networking business.

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it's not SETI@Home's fault nor is it their responsibility to find people for you to talk to. They are in the science business, not the social networking business.

Ozz it is sad that as a mod you treat the project in such a sterile way.

I guess I come from a different social and scientific background...

I thought SETI was a project aimed at providing benefit to the world rather than just crunching some raw and impersonal numbers!

I assumed that without a social network we would never (SETI would never) have had a network of computers in our homes to use!

I would not be crunching if it was not for the social value.. Would you be?


In this sense it is a major question:

Is SETI just a project that simply deals with maths or is it a project about the hopes and aspirations of those who wish to look outwards in discovery?



My guess is that SETI is an aspirational project embrassing the best of human hopes.

In this mindset it is pretty silly not to search for ways to include other people from around the world. (Though I can see many excuses for not even trying..)

For me I just think it a worthy question to ask why there are so few (statistically) non white people involved.

Denials aside the SETI project does not do so well in involving non-english speaking or non-euro-origin people.

I can say "ye numak haram hai" but I need to say it in phonetic roman even though the words should be written in a form of Arabic script (Urdu)...

... If I was a native speaker of a language that did not use euro-roman text how could I speak on these boards?

Personally I think the arguement about "english" is a sideline issue..

I think the question of 'diversification' is worth asking.

It does not need us to run to protect SETI.

It needs us to think of ways in which we can promote the project more widely!


(Why such negativity amongst us?)

Ozz it is sad that as a mod you treat the project in such a sterile way.

I thought SETI was a project aimed at providing benefit to the world rather than just crunching some raw and impersonal numbers!

I would not be crunching if it was not for the social value.. Would you be?

In this sense it is a major question:

Is SETI just a project that simply deals with maths or is it a project about the hopes and aspirations of those who wish to look outwards in discovery?

In this mindset it is pretty silly not to search for ways to include other people from around the world. (Though I can see many excuses for not even trying..)

Hmmm...we have 50+ members of our team....from many different countries....and only about 20 of them have posted on our forums.

We had someone from Germany join us....then someone else....so we wound up with a German Thread.

We now have a member from India...but he posts in English.

We ( either Calm Chaos OR Seti ) cannot FORCE diversification. If you feel that there isn't enough diversification, or if you feel that non English speakers are being shut out, then your best bet to attempt to change that would be to make use of the Seti Cafe and make a thread in a non English language.

Just my two cents.


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No. Sterile as in a mod that thinks that SETI is just about crunching numbers and not about social activity or value.

I never assumed sterile meant 'neutral and unbiased'.. Do you really believe sterile means this?

It's quite funny that so many moderators have congregated in this thread.

Why so many Mods?

There was not attack on SETI.. Just a question..

Why so many troops when all that was needed was a recognition of the lack in our diversification.

Maybe if 30 mods joined in this thread the problem might be solved nay?

So far all I have seen is people blaming those who may have never even heard or stopped to think about SETI for their lack of involvement.

The first issue in promoting a project for me is recognising that others are no to blame for our lack of promotion.

I am not sure I see enthusiasm.

I see alot of mods telling me the system is perfect already or it is other peoples problems..

Does SETI have a clear set of recent statistics? (Current & active users, computers, countries, etc..?)