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MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqxsgjUZXjQ "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
One Soldier's Opinion About Being In Iraq http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e90_1187514955 "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Soldiers Tape MREs Behind Humvee - Tease Iraqi Children http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f52_1187494055 "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Soldiers laying about and playing cards get a mortar hit near them: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9f4_1187822569 "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Good American Soldiers being good to civilians in Iraq: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a56_1188843301 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=afb_1188816074 Kudos! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Daykay Send message Joined: 18 Dec 00 Posts: 647 Credit: 739,559 RAC: 0 |
It's a rough place no doubt about it. But anyone who thinks that the coalition presence there is doing more harm than good is too easily swayed by negative media. The media has to be negative cause scandal sells. Good news makes you feel good and proud but it just doesn't sell quite so well. Kolch - Crunching for the BOINC@Australia team since July 2004. Search for your own intelligence... |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
anyone who thinks that the coalition presence there is doing more harm than good is too easily swayed by negative media. Sorry, but they had water and electricity before we arrived on the scene... Now they do not... But of couse, one could say that we are there fixing what we broke... Yeah, aren't we wonderful... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
Jon (nanoreid) Send message Joined: 16 Aug 07 Posts: 643 Credit: 583,870 RAC: 0 |
It's a rough place no doubt about it. But anyone who thinks that the coalition presence there is doing more harm than good is too easily swayed by negative media. The media has to be negative cause scandal sells. Good news makes you feel good and proud but it just doesn't sell quite so well. But I thought the idea was to make us all feel like we need to be there? Isn't that the role of the media in this whole NEW WORLD ORDER scheme? Or is that just a load of cowchips too. Hopefully the cosmos is not trying to reverse the charges. Moderation in all things. |
Jon (nanoreid) Send message Joined: 16 Aug 07 Posts: 643 Credit: 583,870 RAC: 0 |
anyone who thinks that the coalition presence there is doing more harm than good is too easily swayed by negative media. But we aren't fixing what we broke. We're just marching in place for the most part. Sure we go in and clean out a few rat nests but as soon as we pull back to the Green Zone, the rats move back in. Hopefully the cosmos is not trying to reverse the charges. Moderation in all things. |
Daykay Send message Joined: 18 Dec 00 Posts: 647 Credit: 739,559 RAC: 0 |
Wonder why when designing the Government/Constitution of Iraq they didn't establish a unitary style of Parliament to be made of members democratically elected to represent their religion and with equal representation of Sunnis, Shiites, and Kurds. Instead of electing the candidate for your region you elect the candidate of your preferred religion. That way no one religion could dominate the other. Also it eliminates the problems associated with two-party politics. Sure it wouldnt be a true democracy but it could at least be a stable one. Kolch - Crunching for the BOINC@Australia team since July 2004. Search for your own intelligence... |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
The longer we maintain instability, the longer we can supposedly justify being there. George Galloway's speech to Parliament, January 2007 The government that governs best is the government that governs least, and by this standard we have set up a wonderful government in Iraq, Lebanon, etc... Anti-war hero George Galloway giving the US Senate a bollocking. Colbert Roasts President Bush - 2006 White House Correspondents Dinner "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
with equal representation of Sunnis, Shiites, and Kurds. Maybe you've forgotten the biggest issue... They can't seem to get along with each other... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
Daykay Send message Joined: 18 Dec 00 Posts: 647 Credit: 739,559 RAC: 0 |
I'm aware of that. Though I believe that part of the problem stems from one having power over the other. Where before it was the minority over the majority, now it is the majority over the minority. Either way they are still going to fight and kill each other. If they have equal power though and are forced to make policies which are agreeable to at least two of the three religions then the the country might be seen as more fair for all Iraqis. Just occurs to me that there seems to be no national identity for Iraqis. What does it mean to be an Iragi? What values and traditions does an Iraqi hold? Mostly it seems dependant on their religious beliefs and thus there is no Iraq but instead three different intermingled nations. Perhaps efforts could be made to determine common elements of Iraqui life and build a national identity which is inclusive of all Iraquis. Build some national pride which is not reliant on religious beliefs such as seen by the success of the Iraq soccer team in the Asian cup. Kolch - Crunching for the BOINC@Australia team since July 2004. Search for your own intelligence... |
Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0 |
anyone who thinks that the coalition presence there is doing more harm than good is too easily swayed by negative media. Electrical output in Iraq is the highest it's ever been in history, Jeffey. And it has been the highest in history for years now. Old news. Of course, now that the people are free and most are earning a better living than before they can afford to purchase more appliances and previously banned things like satellite dishes which drives the demand for power up. I suppose we shouldn't allow them to advance into the 21st century along with the rest of us.......that's the humanitarian thing to do I'm sure. Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! |
Jon (nanoreid) Send message Joined: 16 Aug 07 Posts: 643 Credit: 583,870 RAC: 0 |
I'm aware of that. Though I believe that part of the problem stems from one having power over the other. Where before it was the minority over the majority, now it is the majority over the minority. Either way they are still going to fight and kill each other. The Shiites and the Sunnis have been killing each other for almost 1000 years. That doesn't stop overnight. Take the example of Ireland. We only now are seeing a sort of calm and that took quite some time to achieve. The Kurds are not a religion but a group of people that have been trying to form their own country for some time now. There will never be a stable government in Iraq unless it is a theocracy controlled by one of the two major branches of Islam. Hopefully the cosmos is not trying to reverse the charges. Moderation in all things. |
Jon (nanoreid) Send message Joined: 16 Aug 07 Posts: 643 Credit: 583,870 RAC: 0 |
anyone who thinks that the coalition presence there is doing more harm than good is too easily swayed by negative media. I guess the killing squads and the suicide bombers are part of this whole advance into the 21st century. Maybe having fewer people around to drive the demand for power will allow more freedom and better living. Hopefully the cosmos is not trying to reverse the charges. Moderation in all things. |
Darth Dogbytes™ Send message Joined: 30 Jul 03 Posts: 7512 Credit: 2,021,148 RAC: 0 |
...more weapons of mass destruction from Iraq Account frozen... |
Scary Capitalist Send message Joined: 21 May 01 Posts: 7404 Credit: 97,085 RAC: 0 |
anyone who thinks that the coalition presence there is doing more harm than good is too easily swayed by negative media. I can't tell if you're for policies that encourage the killing squads or against them. Founder of BOINC team Objectivists. Oh the humanity! Rational people crunching data! I did NOT authorize this belly writing! |
Jon (nanoreid) Send message Joined: 16 Aug 07 Posts: 643 Credit: 583,870 RAC: 0 |
anyone who thinks that the coalition presence there is doing more harm than good is too easily swayed by negative media. Sorry, I guess sarcasm doesn't translate very well. The current policies of the United States government are encouraging the killing squads and the suicide bombers. We keep insisting on a unified Iraq. The only way Iraq will ever be unified is if we bring back someone like Saddam or one of the two, Sunni or Shia, wipes the other out. Hopefully the cosmos is not trying to reverse the charges. Moderation in all things. |
Jon (nanoreid) Send message Joined: 16 Aug 07 Posts: 643 Credit: 583,870 RAC: 0 |
...more weapons of mass destruction from Iraq The 'Mr. Clean' label should have been a big clue. Hopefully the cosmos is not trying to reverse the charges. Moderation in all things. |
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