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Message 613193 - Posted: 1 Aug 2007, 21:25:53 UTC
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Message 613417 - Posted: 2 Aug 2007, 8:55:40 UTC

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Message 613421 - Posted: 2 Aug 2007, 9:27:55 UTC - in response to Message 613417.

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Message 613946 - Posted: 3 Aug 2007, 8:33:38 UTC

Over there, Season 1, Episode 1

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44 min 16 sec

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Message 619176 - Posted: 14 Aug 2007, 21:03:15 UTC

U.S. MILITARY DEATHS (IRAQ): 3694
U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED (IRAQ): 27279
IRAQI CIVILIAN DEATHS (MIN): 69334
EXCESS IRAQI DEATHS: 655000
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Message 620079 - Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 5:24:14 UTC

U.S. MILITARY DEATHS (IRAQ): 3699
U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED (IRAQ): 27279
IRAQI CIVILIAN DEATHS (MIN): 69513
EXCESS IRAQI DEATHS: 655000
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Message 620114 - Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 7:07:36 UTC

Shouldn't you probably be including a statistic about how many Iraqis have been slaughtered by their own countrymen just for the hell of slaughtering them? I don't mean in so-called legitimate combat, I mean just randomly blowing them up good.

Number one threat to Iraqis in Iraq? Other Iraqis.

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"He blowed up reeeel good!" --Billy Sol Hurok, Farm Film Report.
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Message 620119 - Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 7:14:52 UTC

Army suicides highest in 26 years

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Message 620122 - Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 7:22:43 UTC

Heard this joke from another web forum.

When the Iraqis/Arabs shoot, the Aussies duck.
When the Aussies shoot, the Iraqis/Arabs duck.
When the Americans shoot, everybody ducks.

I think that the point was someone complaining about the U.S. But it sounds a bit more like a joke. You would assume that it was probably an Aussie that came up with it.

But then when there is that much firepower in any one area, most people with brains would duck, especially when someone has access to an AC-130 Gunship. Those 105mm rounds can have a big impact.

And this is not a go at anyone. In fact I do have an interest in military tech (I know the AC-130, A-10 and even DU are effective at their tasks). I remember jokes made during the first Gulf War about 'smart' cruise missiles that would hunt down Saddam (by knocking on doors and navigating corridors in underground bunkers to find their target).

Rush - As for statistic about Iraqis killed by their own countrymen, I don't know whether they would be any accurate ones, as I believe it would be difficult for any to accurately determine the number killed in the various bombings (especially in crowed places and at funerals, since no one has any idea how many were there to start with). But I do know the number is way too high. But stopping it will not be easy or cheap.

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Message 620137 - Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 7:50:14 UTC

Attack on Abu Ghraib Prison

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Message 620197 - Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 11:31:31 UTC - in response to Message 620119.

Army suicides highest in 26 years

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070816/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/army_suicides

Well, yeah, duh. That would make sense. Combat and the fear thereof is brutal on soldiers.
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Message 620198 - Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 11:34:12 UTC - in response to Message 620122.

Rush - As for statistic about Iraqis killed by their own countrymen, I don't know whether they would be any accurate ones, as I believe it would be difficult for any to accurately determine the number killed in the various bombings (especially in crowed places and at funerals, since no one has any idea how many were there to start with).

Agreed. Frankly, it's likely that the only accurate statistics are the Pentagon numbers of U.S. Solders killed and wounded. That was really smart of them to dispense with counting enemy dead. I mean, who cares?

But I do know the number is way too high. But stopping it will not be easy or cheap.

Nope. Not at all.
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Message 620335 - Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 16:38:40 UTC - in response to Message 620122.

Heard this joke from another web forum.

When the Iraqis/Arabs shoot, the Aussies duck.
When the Aussies shoot, the Iraqis/Arabs duck.
When the Americans shoot, everybody ducks.

I think that the point was someone complaining about the U.S. But it sounds a bit more like a joke. You would assume that it was probably an Aussie that came up with it.


When my brother was in Afghanistan, he said that the most frightening thing over there was not the Taliban but American air power.
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Message 620374 - Posted: 16 Aug 2007, 18:48:06 UTC

Maybe the Coalition should just let the Iraqis kill each other off. It's a real shame but to let our armed forces die is worse. We should, however, concentrate on defeating al-Qaeda. It's a shame that the Pakistani leader Pervez Musharraf won't let us in there in the northwestern part of his country to do some real damage there. Also there is the factor of killing civilians. How about some high-flying drones? Maybe we have them in there now.
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Message 620655 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 1:12:51 UTC - in response to Message 620143.

Heard this joke from another web forum.

When the Iraqis/Arabs shoot, the Aussies duck.
When the Aussies shoot, the Iraqis/Arabs duck.
When the Americans shoot, everybody ducks.

I think that the point was someone complaining about the U.S.

America is a war-like country. As George Carlin says, if we don't like something in America: We declare war on it. The war on drugs, the war on poverty, the war on crime, the war on terrorism.

We are, after all, the only country who's national anthem mentions rockets and bombs.

That's why the Australian National Anthem is so cool.
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Message 620673 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 2:05:11 UTC

Thanks,

I'd never heard your Anthem before.
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Message 620828 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 6:11:38 UTC - in response to Message 620673.

Thanks,

I'd never heard your Anthem before.


Sorry, but I'm stuck with Francis Scott Keys Baltimore bar room song as well.

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Message 620851 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 6:42:12 UTC

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Message 621156 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 17:06:18 UTC

U.S. MILITARY DEATHS (IRAQ): 3702
U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED (IRAQ): 27409
IRAQI CIVILIAN DEATHS (MIN): 69806
'EXCESS' IRAQI DEATHS: 655000
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Message 621229 - Posted: 17 Aug 2007, 18:29:24 UTC - in response to Message 621156.

U.S. MILITARY DEATHS (IRAQ): 3702
U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED (IRAQ): 27409
IRAQI CIVILIAN DEATHS (MIN): 69806
'EXCESS' IRAQI DEATHS: 655000

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