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mike keppler Send message Joined: 13 May 07 Posts: 11 Credit: 11,733 RAC: 0 |
Well - I can also explain you this if you want. And I don't know which parts of Germany you've seen when you've been there. Maybe it's your impression because you expected nothing better, maybe you really saw only the ugly parts. When I visit New York City and only see the Bronx I also will be heavily disappointed of Big Apple.Further: i have seen the west and i have seen the east. and boy what a difference. plus i have never seen a begger in the west. and also several of my western friends were so disappointed in their eastern friends and family because it seems that they forgot to work and compete thanks to their wonderful social enviorment. |
thorin belvrog Send message Joined: 29 Sep 06 Posts: 6418 Credit: 8,893 RAC: 0 |
Just sneaking in to say: I'm sorry, Mr. Gray, that this thread became off-topic. Account frozen... |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Meh, No biggie. :) . "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Depleted Uranium - The Invisible War: 7 parts: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=551_1179479196 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=07f_1179478973 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=57a_1179478727 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=424_1179478455 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d34_1179478081 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=434_1179477832 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8cf_1179477508 DEPLETED URANIUM ALERT! The complicated debates concerning the health effects of DU (both radiological effects and heavy metal toxicity). The official views are neatly debunked by DU experts, including ex-US Army whistle blowers.' The uranium and its radioactive decay products will remain toxic for over 4 billion years...and will slowly destroy the genetic future of the Iraqi people. More on DU: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/DU.htm . "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
If you want info about DU without all the hyperbole, hysterics, and Helen "Won't somebody pleeeeeeeeeeeeeze think of the children" Lovejoyisms, take a look: Wikipedia. As far as it being a war crime (heh) same thing, scroll down, or: Legal status in weapons. By way of comparison: Damn hell ass iron And that is handed out in pills to actually ingest. No one actually eats DU. Well, maybe a few people do. And there might be a few idiots that should eat a lot. Now, I'm not a doctor, but I've played one on TV. My advice? Don't eat DU powder, unless you're really hungry, or unless you really want to teach them 'Mericans a lesson but good--really fix their hash. Oh, and don't drink gasoline either. Unlike DU, that murderous, poisonous compound actually is everywhere. But millions of iron pills are eaten on purpose every day, even though those heavy metals are a killer. Decide for yourself. Having a balanced perspective makes that much easier. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
"Shine" on you crazy diamond. What's that avatar of yours? . "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
What's that avatar of yours? A custom job I paid Captain Avatar for, from the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Which is hilarious. Stay Noodly. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
The uranium and its radioactive decay products will remain toxic for over 4 billion years...and will slowly destroy the genetic future of the Iraqi people. Wow. Kinda like Fat Man and Little Boy did, with a whole Jeebus-load of actual radiation in 1945. Slowly destroyed the genetic future of the Japanese people. Oh, wait, sorry. No it didn't. Those are hustling bustling cities now. Never mind. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
popandbob Send message Joined: 19 Mar 05 Posts: 551 Credit: 4,673,015 RAC: 0 |
Depleated Uranium is used for more than just ammo. In fact they are used in most aircraft as a counterweight for control surfaces. Do you see airline passengers dropping dead because of it? NO. Do you see mechanics who have worked with aircraft control surfaces dropping dead? NO. Personally as an Aircraft Mechanic in training I have handled it and am I dead or in any way harmed? NO. It is mostly harmless unless consumed in large quantities. Only harmful when consumed. Mr. Gray you seem wrongfully informed on this matter. ~BoB Do you Good Search for Seti@Home? http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=888957 Or Good Shop? http://www.goodshop.com/?charityid=888957 |
LeeRyder Send message Joined: 17 Apr 06 Posts: 8 Credit: 104,885 RAC: 0 |
Leave it to the left to bemoan a war to remove a tyrant demogog from power, then to hide behind their "love of our troops" while saying screw you too civilians the libs want to leave to the hands of terrorists by making the US pullout... and then, now, to top it all off.. they say they don't want us to use the very weaponry that gives the USA the best kill to death ratio in the history of warfare.. who, pray tell, exactly are the left rooting for? |
thorin belvrog Send message Joined: 29 Sep 06 Posts: 6418 Credit: 8,893 RAC: 0 |
Leave it to the left to bemoan a war to remove a tyrant demogog from power, then to hide behind their "love of our troops" while saying screw you too civilians the libs want to leave to the hands of terrorists by making the US pullout... For stop sending soldiers into other parts of the world? I saw a sign the other day, reading: Enjoy the Army, travel to foreign countries, meet a lot of people -- and kill them. Account frozen... |
Allie in Vancouver Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 3949 Credit: 1,604,668 RAC: 0 |
Leave it to the left to bemoan a war to remove a tyrant demogog from power, then to hide behind their "love of our troops" while saying screw you too civilians the libs want to leave to the hands of terrorists by making the US pullout... Hmmmmmm |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Time will tell, popandbob, What is the source of your data concerning Alpha, Beta, and Gamma radiation poisoning? I choose to believe the US Military Soldiers over paperwork in this matter. See movie below. As you've said in the death penalty thread: "People dont care enough about what goes on as long as it doesn't affect themselves." 30,000 Veterans file class action suit against VA in California, yesterday, I believe. http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search?p=soldiers+file+va&c= Depleated Uranium is used for more than just ammo. In fact they are used in most aircraft as a counterweight for control surfaces. Do you see airline passengers dropping dead because of it? NO. Do you see mechanics who have worked with aircraft control surfaces dropping dead? NO. Personally as an Aircraft Mechanic in training I have handled it and am I dead or in any way harmed? NO. "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
What is the source of your data concerning Alpha, Beta, and Gamma radiation poisoning? I choose to believe the US Military Soldiers over paperwork in this matter. Then I'm sure you have some evidence for causation? Because, rest assured, they certainly do not. I mean, most of the POL in a tank, would kill soldiers very quickly, in less quantities than DU would. Gasoline, explosives, lubricants, et cetera are all generally quite poisonous, that's why soldiers don't eat them. Really, the DU is the least of their worries if they're going to start eating crap like that. 30,000 Veterans file class action suit against VA in California, yesterday, I believe. Oooh, a class action. That must mean for sure it's true, right? Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
thorin belvrog Send message Joined: 29 Sep 06 Posts: 6418 Credit: 8,893 RAC: 0 |
What is the source of your data concerning Alpha, Beta, and Gamma radiation poisoning? I choose to believe the US Military Soldiers over paperwork in this matter. At least it demands further investigation. Not everything a government tells the citizens is true. Account frozen... |
popandbob Send message Joined: 19 Mar 05 Posts: 551 Credit: 4,673,015 RAC: 0 |
Time will tell, popandbob, Also as another little tidbit of information I know someone who has worked with lead their whole life. He is now retired and in his mid sixties. The doctors have said throughout his life that he has 4 times over the leathal limit of lead in his body. He is still alive and well. The human body has a way of dealing with these things as long as its not a sudden wooosh of the substance at high levels of absorbsion. ~BoB Do you Good Search for Seti@Home? http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=888957 Or Good Shop? http://www.goodshop.com/?charityid=888957 |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
At least it demands further investigation. Not everything a government tells the citizens is true. Duh. Yet you seem to want it to control everything. Regardless, here the point wasn't that the gov't was lying or not, it was what rational basis did Gray have for "choose[ing] to believe the US Military Soldiers over paperwork." In other words, why was he choosing to believe something about eeeevil DU, when any number of substances that people (and soldiers) are exposed to every day are significantly more likely to kill them. Drink gasoline and you'll probably die. Same thing if you eat some high explosive from an anti-tank round. Same thing if you drink the crankcase oil. Inhaling diesel fumes. All of these things are substantially more deadly if ingested by humans than DU. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Don't mind Rush. He's a drama major. . "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
If I bought you an airline ticket, transportation, food, and lodging, to a DU impact site, would you go walk through it with the same protection provided to our troops? "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
If I bought you an airline ticket, transportation, food, and lodging, to a DU impact site, would you go walk through it with the same protection provided to our troops? Without hesitation. None. Just like I would walk through a puddle of gasoline or oil: carefully. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
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