The Patriot Act

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MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0	Message 602695 - Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 7:00:14 UTC Last modified: 13 Jul 2007, 7:00:26 UTC http://news.findlaw.com/cnn/docs/terrorism/hr3162.pdf http://www.fas.org/irp/crs/RL31377.pdf http://www.whitehouse.gov/deptofhomeland/hr_5005_enr.pdf . "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss ID: 602695 ·

KWSN - MajorKong Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0	Message 602705 - Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 7:50:17 UTC Ok, MrGray, I will start this one off. In my opinion, the PATRIOT Act is one of the worst pieces of legislation that the US Govt. has ever passed. I believe that only the DMCA ranks up there anywhere close to it. The insults to the freedom of American citizens contained in the PATRIOT act are grave indeed. Especially those in Title II. The entirety of Title II is morally and ethically repugnant to a free society. Discussion? ID: 602705 ·

MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0	Message 602910 - Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 20:45:14 UTC I'll be reading it today and will try my best to itemize points. Thank you, Sir. . "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss ID: 602910 ·

jason_gee Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0	Message 602927 - Posted: 13 Jul 2007, 20:57:12 UTC - in response to Message 602910. Last modified: 13 Jul 2007, 21:35:32 UTC Can someone please point me to which part is the Glossary of that document ? [ Got them. Definitions are spread throughout unlike Australian Laws. Next I'll be looking for "Objects of the Act".... :P] Oh my, this is bad, section 2 would seem to me to undermine legal precedent. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. ID: 602927 ·

MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0	Message 611325 - Posted: 29 Jul 2007, 21:14:24 UTC 81 views for this post... Oh well, maybe more will notice after this "bump". "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss ID: 611325 ·

hiamps Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0	Message 612566 - Posted: 31 Jul 2007, 15:43:00 UTC - in response to Message 602705. Ok, MrGray, I will start this one off. In my opinion, the PATRIOT Act is one of the worst pieces of legislation that the US Govt. has ever passed. I believe that only the DMCA ranks up there anywhere close to it. The insults to the freedom of American citizens contained in the PATRIOT act are grave indeed. Especially those in Title II. The entirety of Title II is morally and ethically repugnant to a free society. Discussion? He chose the name because he sees how easy it is to get the Sheeple to line up. Come on...If you are a Patriot you would do what ever he asked right? If you question him doesn't that make you bad? And the Sheeple fell right in line.... Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ID: 612566 ·

hiamps Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0	Message 612569 - Posted: 31 Jul 2007, 15:44:04 UTC - in response to Message 611325. 81 views for this post... Oh well, maybe more will notice after this "bump". Try adding some thoughts of your own instead of just links??? Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ID: 612569 ·

Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0	Message 642822 - Posted: 17 Sep 2007, 3:31:39 UTC Last modified: 17 Sep 2007, 3:48:11 UTC UNITING AND STRENGTHENING AMERICA BY PROVIDING APPROPRIATE TOOLS REQUIRED TO INTERCEPT AND OBSTRUCT TERRORISM Anyone else find it a little odd that the word 'money' is used exactly 129 times in this document... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . ID: 642822 ·

John McLeod VII Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0	Message 644454 - Posted: 19 Sep 2007, 20:00:33 UTC I am hoping the the courts eventually (sooner rather than later) throw the entire thing out on Constitutional grounds. BOINC WIKI ID: 644454 ·

MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0	Message 649571 - Posted: 27 Sep 2007, 4:58:25 UTC 2 Patriot Act provisions ruled unlawful By WILLIAM McCALL, Associated Press Writer 5 minutes ago PORTLAND, Ore. - Two provisions of the USA Patriot Act are unconstitutional because they allow search warrants to be issued without a showing of probable cause, a federal judge ruled Wednesday. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070927/ap_on_re_us/patriot_act_lawsuit "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss ID: 649571 ·

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