Another low key day, catching up on old projects. For example some nagging CVS rot. I took the project-specific pages offline briefly to clean up those particular repositories. I also added some code to strip bbcode tags so large images in the user-of-the-day profile summaries won't clobber the whole front page.

Regarding multi-beam data, this won't be happening until next week for various reasons. I'll take this opportunity to remind everyone that nobody on the SETI@home staff actually works on SETI@home full time - in most cases there are other projects (SETI and otherwise) that demand our time. Anyway... when we do start shipping the data you won't have to upgrade your BOINC client - but you will have to get some new application code which will happen automatically. And we'll trickle the data out slowly and carefully gauge progress. Once we're satisfied I'll simply stop putting classic tape images on line, that queue will drain, those final workunits will be analyzed, validated, assimilated, and that'll be that.

- Matt

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-- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person
-- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude

Matt , thanks very much for that info ... plus your , professionalism , dedication and just plain old fashion hard work ... you , Jeff , Eric and Bob .. hope I didn't miss anyone :)

Kind Regards
Byron

Thanks for the update, Matt!

...but I'm still having trouble checking out Astropulse from the CVS - this has been broken for a longish while:

-f update: failed to create lock directory for `/home/cvs/cvsroot/astropulse/client/lcgf_test' (/home/cvs/cvsroot/astropulse/client/lcgf_test/#cvs.lock): Permission denied
-f update: failed to obtain dir lock in repository `/home/cvs/cvsroot/astropulse/client/lcgf_test'
-f [update aborted]: read lock failed - giving up

If you have any spare time, could you please check this issue? Shouldn't be difficult to resolve, but it makes updating from the repository veeery tedious.

Thanks,
Simon.

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-f update: failed to create lock directory for `/home/cvs/cvsroot/astropulse/client/lcgf_test' (/home/cvs/cvsroot/astropulse/client/lcgf_test/#cvs.lock): Permission denied
-f update: failed to obtain dir lock in repository `/home/cvs/cvsroot/astropulse/client/lcgf_test'
-f [update aborted]: read lock failed - giving up

What CVSROOT are you using? How are you connecting and to what exactly?

- Matt

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-- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person
-- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude

I'll take this opportunity to remind everyone that nobody on the SETI@home staff actually works on SETI@home full time - in most cases there are other projects (SETI and otherwise) that demand our time.

All the things you, Eric, Bob, Jeff, (...) accomplish make it look like a full time job!

BTW what about "Bleep" for tomorrows post? We didn't have too much "e" recently...

mic.

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mic.

I am sorry, but there are other things funding Matt, Eric and Crew at Berkeley... The last Donation push bought time (hardware, money and extras) ... Nothing more nothing less. Seti is on a count down timer, that we do not have the count for! It was posted (Eric) that the last grant request failed!

Eric advertised that those that wanted to be included in a larger group to provide ideas and help raise money send him an email. Then you could be included in that group.

Currently I have "no" information about how that went. I have not asked. I know that Matt and Eric are working to get MultiBeam to Seti! But that is "spare time" anyone have a few extra minutes to donate (or to some extent personal time by the Seti Staff)?

Silly Me sez if You Can, You need to look at a Donation to Seti...

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I am sorry, but there are other things funding Matt, Eric and Crew at Berkeley... The last Donation push bought time (hardware, money and extras) ... Nothing more nothing less. Seti is on a count down timer, that we do not have the count for! It was posted (Eric) that the last grant request failed!

Eric advertised that those that wanted to be included in a larger group to provide ideas and help raise money send him an email. Then you could be included in that group.

Currently I have "no" information about how that went. I have not asked. I know that Matt and Eric are working to get MultiBeam to Seti! But that is "spare time" anyone have a few extra minutes to donate (or to some extent personal time by the Seti Staff)?

Silly Me sez if You Can, You need to look at a Donation to Seti...

This may sound like a silly question, but has anyone thought of trying to get some Hollywood studios or directors etc. interested? There has to be a lot of money out there somewhere.

A few months ago I updated http://www.imdb.com/keyword/seti/ to add the Keyword seti (not SETI) to a few moovies. See if you can guess which 3 I added ;-) I'll post the answer in 24 hours.

Keith
(Spelling edit)

A few months ago I updated http://www.imdb.com/keyword/seti/ to add the Keyword seti (not SETI) to a few moovies. See if you can guess which 3 I added ;-) I'll post the answer in 24 hours.

Keith
(Spelling edit)

Hey, Keith, what about E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial??!!

I reckon you added Species, Deceived, and Walker Mars Diary.

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This may sound like a silly question, but has anyone thought of trying to get some Hollywood studios or directors etc. interested? There has to be a lot of money out there somewhere.

Funny thing is, some of the original SETI@home seed money came from Paramount, who caught wind of our project and wanted to tie in the launch of SETI@home with the release of their current Star Trek movie. The money materialized, but due to scheduling issues and delays on all fronts the "big release party" never did.

- Matt

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-- BOINC/SETI@home network/web/science/development person
-- "Any idiot can have a good idea. What is hard is to do it." - Jeanne-Claude

Another low key day, catching up on old projects. For example some nagging CVS rot. I took the project-specific pages offline briefly to clean up those particular repositories. I also added some code to strip bbcode tags so large images in the user-of-the-day profile summaries won't clobber the whole front page.

Regarding multi-beam data, this won't be happening until next week for various reasons. I'll take this opportunity to remind everyone that nobody on the SETI@home staff actually works on SETI@home full time - in most cases there are other projects (SETI and otherwise) that demand our time. Anyway... when we do start shipping the data you won't have to upgrade your BOINC client - but you will have to get some new application code which will happen automatically. And we'll trickle the data out slowly and carefully gauge progress. Once we're satisfied I'll simply stop putting classic tape images on line, that queue will drain, those final workunits will be analyzed, validated, assimilated, and that'll be that.

- Matt

Regarding "some new application code", for the folks that run optimized clients instead of the S@H stock app, how will the multi-beam data affect us? Will we have to revert back to the S@H stock app?

Thanks,
Ed

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Another low key day, catching up on old projects. For example some nagging CVS rot. I took the project-specific pages offline briefly to clean up those particular repositories. I also added some code to strip bbcode tags so large images in the user-of-the-day profile summaries won't clobber the whole front page.

Regarding multi-beam data, this won't be happening until next week for various reasons. I'll take this opportunity to remind everyone that nobody on the SETI@home staff actually works on SETI@home full time - in most cases there are other projects (SETI and otherwise) that demand our time. Anyway... when we do start shipping the data you won't have to upgrade your BOINC client - but you will have to get some new application code which will happen automatically. And we'll trickle the data out slowly and carefully gauge progress. Once we're satisfied I'll simply stop putting classic tape images on line, that queue will drain, those final workunits will be analyzed, validated, assimilated, and that'll be that.

- Matt

Regarding "some new application code", for the folks that run optimized clients instead of the S@H stock app, how will the multi-beam data affect us? Will we have to revert back to the S@H stock app?

Thanks,
Ed

It is my understanding that at least some of the people that optimize the S@H app have a "multi-beam optimized" client ready to go, and are awaiting multi-beam data showing up over here on the main project before releasing them. There should be a transition period where both the older results and the new multi-beam results are available. If you are using the stock S@H app, the phase-in will be automatic. If you are using an optimized S@H app, then at some point in the transition, just run your cache dry, and install the newly optimized S@H apps. Then, re-enable downloads and enjoy the multi-beam optimized goodness.

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#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

I got this in my returned data, it puzzles me how the zero got the vote for cannonical result. Is this intended? I can understand most of data returns, but this one puzzles me.

<<<
PARTICIPATE ABOUT COMMUNITY YOUR ACCOUNT STATISTICS
application SETI@home Enhanced
created 15 Jun 2007 12:59:14 UTC
name 12ap99ab.4134.25265.1028410.3.172
canonical result 553128232
granted credit 0.00
minimum quorum 2
initial replication 3
max # of error/total/success results 5, 10, 5
Result ID
click for details Computer Sent Time reported
or deadline
explain Server state
explain Outcome
explain Client state
explain CPU time (sec) claimed credit granted credit
553128231 2251402 16 Jun 2007 9:06:23 UTC 16 Jun 2007 23:59:30 UTC Over Success Done 52,622.01 58.69 0.00
553128232 2719443 15 Jun 2007 17:24:00 UTC 16 Jun 2007 21:18:58 UTC Over Success Done 0.00 0.00 0.00
553128233 2038070 16 Jun 2007 9:06:18 UTC 28 Jun 2007 7:18:12 UTC Over Success Done 54,217.95 58.69 0.00

HOME PARTICIPATE
>>>>>>>

duke

I got this in my returned data, it puzzles me how the zero got the vote for cannonical result. Is this intended? I can understand most of data returns, but this one puzzles me.

<<<
PARTICIPATE ABOUT COMMUNITY YOUR ACCOUNT STATISTICS
application SETI@home Enhanced
created 15 Jun 2007 12:59:14 UTC
name 12ap99ab.4134.25265.1028410.3.172
canonical result 553128232
granted credit 0.00
minimum quorum 2
initial replication 3
max # of error/total/success results 5, 10, 5
Result ID
click for details Computer Sent Time reported
or deadline
explain Server state
explain Outcome
explain Client state
explain CPU time (sec) claimed credit granted credit
553128231 2251402 16 Jun 2007 9:06:23 UTC 16 Jun 2007 23:59:30 UTC Over Success Done 52,622.01 58.69 0.00
553128232 2719443 15 Jun 2007 17:24:00 UTC 16 Jun 2007 21:18:58 UTC Over Success Done 0.00 0.00 0.00
553128233 2038070 16 Jun 2007 9:06:18 UTC 28 Jun 2007 7:18:12 UTC Over Success Done 54,217.95 58.69 0.00

HOME PARTICIPATE
>>>>>>>

duke

Now that the quorum is 2, the lower credit score of the 2 with matching science is granted. Normally this is not a problem, because the newer clients allow for FLOP reporting by the science application. However the older clients do not do this, and windows 9x/ME have a CPU time counting problem sometimse - which generates a request for 0 credits. The grant of the lower request is to prevent cheating, and is not going to be changed.

You might send a nice PM to the person that owns the other machine asking if they would mind upgrading to a current version of BOINC.

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...windows 9x/ME have a CPU time counting problem sometimse - which generates a request for 0 credits.

The system which generated that is a Macintosh, hostid 2719443. But the idea of encouraging changing to a BOINC which reports fpops_cumulative is certainly good.

                                                             Joe

A few months ago I updated http://www.imdb.com/keyword/seti/ to add the Keyword seti (not SETI) to a few moovies. See if you can guess which 3 I added ;-) I'll post the answer in 24 hours.

Keith
(Spelling edit)

Hey, Keith, what about E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial??!!

I reckon you added Species, Deceived, and Walker Mars Diary.

You got 1 right! The movies I previously added were:
Independence Day, Contact and Species. I have also added "The X Files" yesterday but that has not shown up on the list yet.

I will add ET even though I can't remember it actually mentioning SETI!

I have created a thread in the Cafe SETI in Hollywood Movies for this as it is a bit off topic for Tech News.

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