Yes!

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If someone's computer is going to make the most important discovery in the history of man, I want that computer to be mine!

Good Luck Geek@Play, Nice Kitty too. There must be a bunch of Cat people here.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

YES most definitely...something is out there and we will eventually find it.

But why? Seems to me that its an awfull lot of resouces spent on somthing that can never offer any real benefit to humanity. Having said that I should add, it sure is fun though, and you cant argue with fact that seti led to boinc and boinc showed the world and the scientific community what distributed volenteer computing is capable of.

m4rtyn

ps I Know, 2 or 3 letters. But that rule has allready been broken. and as the only NO vote(see earlier post[only 2 letters]) I was feeling a bit lonley and intimidated. .... so I'm babbleing, ...... so I'll stop now......

You are saying that aliens or ET will not benefit humanity? I disagree. There would me a lot of technology and stuff that we can exchange etc...

How? You really think you will be able to call them back the minuet the signel is found.I understand this is a common misconception, but unfortunatly comunication of any sort would be impossible due to the fact that any comunication would have a round trip time of many many thousands of years.
not to mention that the species that sent the signel may well be extinct by the time it reaches us and we as a species will probably be long gone by the time any reply we send found its way back. Im afraid this i just one of the many reasons why comunication will never happen.

m4rtyn

Again I disagree...if the species is extinct, then there will be no signal. No matter how long it takes for the signal to get here...if they are dead so is the signal. If they communicate with us they can come here as they will likely be far more advanced than we are. Communication will happen if we find them because a signal does NOT last forever. Once it stops transmitting, we would know it because the signal would NOT be a constant aka doppler drift rate. Not impossible, just would take a long time. Unfortunately, IMO you analogy of communication makes no sense to me as we have thousands of ways to communicate with each other on earth, so its likely they have thousands moreways to communicate with us. If they are advanced enough to send a signal, then they are probably advanced enough to come see us. Ever hear of Light speed?

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

YES most definitely...something is out there and we will eventually find it.

But why? Seems to me that its an awfull lot of resouces spent on somthing that can never offer any real benefit to humanity. Having said that I should add, it sure is fun though, and you cant argue with fact that seti led to boinc and boinc showed the world and the scientific community what distributed volenteer computing is capable of.

m4rtyn

ps I Know, 2 or 3 letters. But that rule has allready been broken. and as the only NO vote(see earlier post[only 2 letters]) I was feeling a bit lonley and intimidated. .... so I'm babbleing, ...... so I'll stop now......

You are saying that aliens or ET will not benefit humanity? I disagree. There would me a lot of technology and stuff that we can exchange etc...

How? You really think you will be able to call them back the minuet the signel is found.I understand this is a common misconception, but unfortunatly comunication of any sort would be impossible due to the fact that any comunication would have a round trip time of many many thousands of years.
not to mention that the species that sent the signel may well be extinct by the time it reaches us and we as a species will probably be long gone by the time any reply we send found its way back. Im afraid this i just one of the many reasons why comunication will never happen.

m4rtyn

Again I disagree...if the species is extinct, then there will be no signal. No matter how long it takes for the signal to get here...if they are dead so is the signal. If they communicate with us they can come here as they will likely be far more advanced than we are. Communication will happen if we find them because a signal does NOT last forever. Once it stops transmitting, we would know it because the signal would NOT be a constant aka doppler drift rate. Not impossible, just would take a long time. Unfortunately, IMO you analogy of communication makes no sense to me as we have thousands of ways to communicate with each other on earth, so its likely they have thousands moreways to communicate with us. If they are advanced enough to send a signal, then they are probably advanced enough to come see us. Ever hear of Light speed?

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"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". Hebrews 11.3

YES

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YES
But like many have said. Not 24/7 and I would not have spent the thousands I have on computers running only Seti.

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NO

Yes

Perhap's a thought here. Please feel free to hate me for it, but...
After reading all of those necessary "Pappa" posts about us (me) being lazy and not donating, I kind of got an idea of combining cobblestones and donations...
Because some in here are very competetive and want to have more cobblestones than anyone else, but are whacking/crunching a loosing game against Nez the Divine year after year. So for those of you that want a better credit of cobblestones there could be another solution.
What?
Simple!
1$ = 1000 cobblestones.
When you donate you get cobblestones.

*Hunkering down screaming*
Hit me!

No. It would be like playing a game and not accumulating points.

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Perhaps a thought here. Please feel free to hate me for it, but...
After reading all of those necessary "Pappa" posts about us (me) being lazy and not donating, I kind of got an idea of combining cobblestones and donations...
Because some in here are very competitive and want to have more cobblestones than anyone else, but are whacking/crunching a loosing game against Nez the Divine year after year. So for those of you that want a better credit of cobblestones there could be another solution.
What?
Simple!
1$ = 1000 cobblestones.
When you donate you get cobblestones.

*Hunkering down screaming*
Hit me!

Not likely to happen, So forget about It.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

YES most definitely...something is out there and we will eventually find it.

But why? Seems to me that its an awfull lot of resouces spent on somthing that can never offer any real benefit to humanity. Having said that I should add, it sure is fun though, and you cant argue with fact that seti led to boinc and boinc showed the world and the scientific community what distributed volenteer computing is capable of.

m4rtyn

ps I Know, 2 or 3 letters. But that rule has allready been broken. and as the only NO vote(see earlier post[only 2 letters]) I was feeling a bit lonley and intimidated. .... so I'm babbleing, ...... so I'll stop now......

You are saying that aliens or ET will not benefit humanity? I disagree. There would me a lot of technology and stuff that we can exchange etc...

How? You really think you will be able to call them back the minuet the signel is found.I understand this is a common misconception, but unfortunatly comunication of any sort would be impossible due to the fact that any comunication would have a round trip time of many many thousands of years.
not to mention that the species that sent the signel may well be extinct by the time it reaches us and we as a species will probably be long gone by the time any reply we send found its way back. Im afraid this i just one of the many reasons why comunication will never happen.

m4rtyn

Again I disagree...if the species is extinct, then there will be no signal. No matter how long it takes for the signal to get here...if they are dead so is the signal. If they communicate with us they can come here as they will likely be far more advanced than we are. Communication will happen if we find them because a signal does NOT last forever. Once it stops transmitting, we would know it because the signal would NOT be a constant aka doppler drift rate. Not impossible, just would take a long time. Unfortunately, IMO you analogy of communication makes no sense to me as we have thousands of ways to communicate with each other on earth, so its likely they have thousands moreways to communicate with us. If they are advanced enough to send a signal, then they are probably advanced enough to come see us. Ever hear of Light speed?

Sorry jason but evan at the speed of light, 186,000 miles/sec it would take at least 4.2 years to cover the distance from our nearest neighbours(Proxima Centauri,Rigil Kentaurus,Wolf 359),not to long to travel you might think,but if there were anybody(thing) there we would have found out long ago even without seti. Unfortunately what litle hope there is lies with the more distant stars. which of course means a journey time of hundreds maybe thousands of years (Hardley worth it to visit the obscure T shirt producing planet of earth. And I dont care what MPG you get thats gonna cost some in gas)As for a signal ceasing to travel when transmision ends, I think youll find it's not so, marconnis original transmision is probably out there somewhere. (For that matter so is The Benny Hill Show, Eastenders, and god help us David HaselHoff! there gose our rep.) But on a more serious note it's quite possible that an advanced race may choose to activly prevent an inferiour species like ourselves from finding it. And who could blame them.

m4rtyn

1$ = 1000 cobblestones.
When you donate you get cobblestones.

This is a pretty good idea. Why not!

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Again I disagree...if the species is extinct, then there will be no signal. No matter how long it takes for the signal to get here...if they are dead so is the signal.

This is way out of my expertise but I would have thought that once a signal is sent, it continues to go (forever?) whether or not any more signal is being sent behind it.

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YES

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Demiurg

Off Topic, but an answer...

There are those that can contribute money, there are those that wish they could, and those that can afford faster computers and do nothing... Across 5 projects I have about 20 machines... My primary focus is Seti Beta... You can believe it or not, Hardware and Money (since the first of the year) that I have donated is over $600... That would include the Gigabyte Switch that was needed to clear some of the bottlenecks in the Server closet... What the ammount exactly is, is no ones business but Mine and My Wife whom I had to convince... WE all have budgets... I pay for Electricity, I pay for hardware... I can find money and hardware that is necessary to Keep Seti Alive!

So My belief in the Seti Project goes way back... If You feel that you or anyone feels that you are "slacking" in Donations You can fix that... I know that Many have responded to the Hardware Donations... I know that Many requested that donations be held quietly... I and the Seti Staff respect that, those monies which are over $6000+ do not show up in the Donations pages... The next step is to get hardware under Seti which can do Real Time Persistency Checking... It Takes Money that Seti does not have... Everyones efforts keeps moving Seti Ahead!

So as "we" all have a stake in finding "ET" we have to look at things and do what "we" can do!

If You took Offense, I apologize. If you can do something positive and have not, that is on You and Others! It is "your choice!"

No, I am not a member of the Seti Staff.. Yes I can say what is necessary... You can then feel free to hate me and do nothing... When You do, one day Seti may not be there anymore... What do you do then? You paid Thousands for computer hardware to be the Fastest and Best in Seti... and now it is No Longer There! I truly am not sure what You do NOT Understand! Somewhere there is a compromise... There is still $300000 to raise...

Regards

Pappa

Perhap's a thought here. Please feel free to hate me for it, but...
After reading all of those necessary "Pappa" posts about us (me) being lazy and not donating, I kind of got an idea of combining cobblestones and donations...
Because some in here are very competetive and want to have more cobblestones than anyone else, but are whacking/crunching a loosing game against Nez the Divine year after year. So for those of you that want a better credit of cobblestones there could be another solution.
What?
Simple!
1$ = 1000 cobblestones.
When you donate you get cobblestones.

*Hunkering down screaming*
Hit me!

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Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project.

YES

This is a YES or NO question!!!

If you add anything other that YES or NO, bad for you. 2 or 3 letters. 3 for YES, 2 for NO. Here it is.

If SETI didn't give "credits" would you still do it???

Remember YES, or NO only, not justification either way. 2 or 3 letters, YES or NO.

(EDIT) A lot of folks have visited this post without a vote, please vote either way, no hard feelings either way.

Uh Huh
2 3
;)

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When we finally figure it all out, all the rules will change and we can start all over again.

No.

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YES

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